Air Rifle Appreciation thread


The Deer Hunter
September 30, 2006, 05:51 PM
I have a GAMO Shadow 1000. .177 cal. rifled barrel, about 20" and i have to say this thing is accurate.

Even more so than my .22 mag.

I think that air rifles should get more attention.

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September 30, 2006, 06:18 PM
Air rifles do get attention, but for most of us who have come of age and can buy firearms, they are used almost exclusively to dispatch pests in areas where discharging a firearm is ill advised.

I have an RWS model 34 and a B-S Blue Streak .20 cal, and other assorted CO2 and pump types from my childhood.

September 30, 2006, 07:39 PM
I have the crossman 1377, its a high powered air pistol, with a rifle stock affixed. I shoot at a pellet trap in my garage at 7-10 yards.
Last friday we had a party at the house, and I had all the ladies shooting it, ;)

September 30, 2006, 07:51 PM
I still have the Sheridan Silver Streak I was given when I was 6 (I'm 43 now). I still occaisonally dig it out for teaching kids to shoot, plinking cottontails or the occaisonal tin can when I want some low key fun.

September 30, 2006, 08:36 PM
I was raised with airrifles instead of regular firearms. My father still has a finwerkbau (sp?) olympic grade match target rifle, (only I've ever seen without importers stampings) and a hammerli sidelever.

at 25 yards they make one clean hole with ten shots.

September 30, 2006, 10:53 PM
Our Red Ryder, Gamo and Shanghai are always out, next to the back door. Targets hung on the fence.

The Deer Hunter
October 7, 2006, 01:11 AM
wow not many guys shoot airguns huh?

October 7, 2006, 01:14 AM
I have a great beeman's an absolute tack-driver!

Will Learn
October 7, 2006, 12:27 PM
Just got a Crossman 1377 in the mail yesterday and have killed 3 tree rats with it so far. I also have a Gamo shadow 1000 but I like the 1377 for it's portability and also so the neighbors wont think I'm shooting a .22 in the back yard. I've been looking at the drozd full-auto BB gun but I don't know if it has any power behind it. I'm a big kid and love air rifles/pistols.:)

October 7, 2006, 12:32 PM
I have a 1077, Red Ryder, and a pump Crosman. They all work well, and I like using them. I just don't use them around here in CT right yet, since there's really nowhere to use them. Whenever I get a house and my own land, I'll once again be using them.

October 7, 2006, 12:37 PM
Love em'

Beeman GS1000 .22
CZ Slavia 631 .177
RWS Stutzen .177
IZH 46M .177 match pistol.
RWS CP225 SIG 225 replica .177 C02

Sleeping Dog
October 7, 2006, 01:17 PM
I got 2 of them, both have sent some animals to rodent heaven. A cheap Chinese (3B1?) with an under-barrel lever and a trigger from hell, rated 600fps, and a RWS350 with break-barrel and a very nice trigger, rated a little over 1000 fps. Both are accurate.

I'm looking for apertures for the RWS front sight. It has the German-style pointy post, like a K98K, not my favorite front sight picture.

They're good for plinking in the house, shooting from one end of the basement to the other.


October 7, 2006, 09:06 PM
I've got a few... ;)

Beeman R1 .20 cal.
Beeman R7 .177cal
Beeman P1 .177cal
FWB 65 MkI
Webley Eclipse .22 cal.
Sheridan Silver Streak
FWB 300S Universal

I'm always amazed that so many people who enjoy shooting deprive themselves of enjoyment and good practice by ignoring quality airguns.

October 7, 2006, 10:49 PM
i have some winchester break barrel that shoots about 1000 fps. Its dropped many varmints in the back yard.

October 7, 2006, 10:54 PM
Beeman R-7 here. Great, inexpensive, back yard trigger time.

October 7, 2006, 11:05 PM
my airgun baby is an RWS Diana Model 40 in .22 (top one) Bottom is a Crosman 1760, middle one is an SNS with optional $5 laser/barrel weight:D

October 7, 2006, 11:07 PM
Airguns are an addiction!

Xisico B41 .177 (spring)
Sheridan CB9 "Blue Streak" .20 (pump)
Benjamin 392 Mac1 Steroid ( .22 (pump)
Daisy Red Ryder .177 bb (spring)
Crossman 1377C .177 pellet or bb (pump)
Walther CP99 .177 (CO2)
Walther PPKS .177 bb (CO2)
Air Force Talon SS .22 (precharged pnuematic)

The 392 has taken countless squirrels!

October 7, 2006, 11:14 PM
My old Daisy Powerline (880?) is still alive and well after more than 20 years. It's one of the "dangerous" ones that caused the big lawsuit because moron kids were able to fire the gun when the chamber looked empty, so they would unknowingly shoot a BB into their brother's head or whatever...

Who the hell let's their kid treat an airgun like a toy when it is capable of firing a projectile just like a regular gun?!


October 7, 2006, 11:20 PM
I remember that. That was before I was pro guns (and past elementary school). I remember never wating one because of that. Daddy bought me a crosman instead :D

Paladin, how do you like the Talon? Looks like a REALLY sweet gun.

October 7, 2006, 11:24 PM
Air arms TX200 in .177 cal. Awsome air rifle. Not a safe bird within 40 yards. If I had this when I was in high school there would not have been any critters or glass in the neighborhood!

Dave R
October 8, 2006, 12:09 AM
I have been shooting an old Slavia 648 airgun for 38 years!

Just taught my two youngest daughters to shoot it this year.

Bought a new Beeman this year. Its fun shooting in the back yard.

My only question is, why do the new air rifles have muzzle brakes and recoil pads? Seems like unecessary cost and marketing gizmos to me.

October 8, 2006, 09:34 AM
Paladin, how do you like the Talon? Looks like a REALLY sweet gun.For the money, at the time, the Talon SS was probably the best value in features for PCP (pre-charged pneumatic) airgun at the time. It had rails, was light, black (!), and an uncommonly large fill bottle meaning lots of shots per-fill and a much larger "sweet spot" of super accurate/consistent shots than most other PCPs at the time. The power dialed up to 40 ft-lbs or down to 500 shots per fill and was quieter than my 392.

Playing with home grown things to put into the barrel shroud could make the SS quiet indeed to the point the "hammer" is the loudest thing in the gun, not the shot report!

The two main downsides are slightly awkward ergos since the fill bottle is tough to get a good cheek-weld on and the really really high scope mounts which can play havok on calculating hold-over for short-ranged shots... so it's tougher to take squirrels with this gun overall. But when you hit, those hits were extremely authoritative!

Ultimately, though, I sold it because it was too expensive for the amount of shooting I was doing with it, having switched over to primarily rimfires.

October 8, 2006, 10:53 AM
During the frigid winter months I shoot a lot of air rifle at the heated 50ft indoor range. My favorite is this Beeman R7:
Also own a Weihrauch HW30 which is similar.
The accuracy is there with the both. I mainly shoot off hand but decided to see what the little R7 could do when I rested it for 5 shots @ 50 ft:

October 8, 2006, 11:22 AM
Three currently. The Webley MkIII is from way back in early 60's and shows its age! Under-lever cocking and tap loading - nice combo.

The HW35 is also back from 70's and a very nicely engineered gun - it was improved way back with an uprated spring and ''moly'' treatment. It now needs re-springing again.

Latest one was the ''Eurolux'' - obviously a Chinese but - a very efficient rifle. Claimed 1000 fps, actual is 950 and it certainly does a good job within 25 yards.

October 8, 2006, 05:00 PM
i've got a bengiman-sheridan .20 cal pump, accuracy is great, but its a pain to find .20 cal pellets

October 9, 2006, 09:17 PM
Now that Crosman makes 20 cal pallets it should be getting easier. I still think its worth the hassle with the 20 (5MM) you get the best of both worlds.

That cracked me up. I was shooting my Slavia 622 in the yard with my son.
He hit his target looked at me and said this gun is really 44yrs old?

How many people do you know who have anything for 40yrs.


The Deer Hunter
October 9, 2006, 10:19 PM
I'm so angry, someone played with my sights and now its not shooting right:fire: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :fire:

October 10, 2006, 02:56 AM
airsoft count?

awesome for plinking around- my next step is building a solenoid operating gas bolt. :neener:

October 10, 2006, 03:31 AM
Nothing fancy, just a brand new Baikal IZH-61 five pellet repeater. I like it a lot.
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October 10, 2006, 12:30 PM
Beeman R8 (not R7, just a step up from it)

Walther LPM-1, single stroke pneumatic match pistol

Steyr LP10, precharged pneumatic match pistol

All are tack drivers, and allow lots of convenient and inexpensive practice. The Beeman is on its second mainspring and going strong.

October 10, 2006, 05:33 PM
Funny, I just got done plinking in the garage with my Daisy 856 Poweline, and then I see this thread. With a $10 Wal-Mart scope that I never so much as BZO'd, it keeps amazingly tight groups at 5-10 yards. It was good enough for rodent control in urban settings, but if I ever buy another air-rifle it will not be a pump. I have missed quite a few pests just because of how long it takes to get the pump into action, (Plus it is noisy.)

October 10, 2006, 07:25 PM
I just picked up an $8 daisy red dot for my 1377 "carbine", cant wait to see how well it shoots.

The Real Hawkeye
October 10, 2006, 10:33 PM
I have a couple of scoped Beemans, one in .22 and the other in .177. Both are made in Germany, and are more than powerful and accurate enough for squirrels. When I was a kid, I bagged lots of them with those guns. They are great silent killers. Before that I had the old 1970s made Crossman pump rifle, and it too had a scope. I became an expert, believe it or not, at dispatching wasps with that rifle when I was a kid.

October 10, 2006, 10:48 PM
I have a RWS Model 34 as others have posted too. Mine has sent dozens of assorted animals in my suburban area to meet their maker. I have dispatched cottontails, squirrels, chipmunks, ground hogs, oppossums and one coon. The last 3 were with head shots and pointed pellets.

Peter M. Eick
October 11, 2006, 05:37 PM

Astonishingly accurate. The thing that I am amazed at is the triggers on the match guns. Mine is in the 5.5 onz range. Absolutely perfect break. To bad you can't buy a high powered rifle with a trigger like that from the factory.

October 11, 2006, 06:02 PM
Wow, and I only have a Crosman 760 Pumpmaster.

Here's a BB gun quote from Nation Lampoon's Vacation...

Lasky, Guard at Walleyworld: That's not a real gun, is it Clark?
Clark: Are you kidding? This is a Magnum P.I.
Lasky, Guard at Walleyworld: It's a BB gun!
Clark: Don't tempt me. I could poke an eye out with this thing.
Lasky, Guard at Walleyworld: You couldn't even break the skin with that thing.

October 11, 2006, 08:56 PM
Air rifles are nice because they are quieter, cheaper, ammo is cheaper, they're more legal, and you can legally have them silenced provided the silencer is permanently attached. You should be able to legally convert one to f.a, but you should never take out the sear.

October 11, 2006, 11:53 PM
Air rifles are nice because they are quieter, cheaper, ammo is cheaper, they're more legal,

Well three out of four ain't bad. There are air rifles that I want that cost more then any of the "real" guns that I want. :D

October 12, 2006, 09:45 AM
I have to say mine gets used more than any other gun I own, (except my Benelli S90).

I even took out a coon last week at about 25yards after it did a number to my garbage can. Head shot, done.

I'll give it a huge thumbs up for fun and accuracy.:evil:

October 12, 2006, 09:52 AM
I coach a collegiate club air rifle team.

We shoot Anschutz 2002 CA rifles.

"CA" stands for "Constant Air" as they run off compressed air cylinders we fill with a scuba tank.

Air rifles are inherently more accurate than firearms because they can be engineered to give out exactly the same amout of air every single time they fire.

Even with the highest grade .22 match ammo, there will be little differences in the powder, the brass, the bullet.

Air guns break that down to just two components....blast of air and pellet.

If you can keep the pellets consistent, the well-engineered rifles will keep the amount of air consistent.

Air rifles are wonderful. They are accurate. They are a great way to get folks into shooting.

Me likey!


October 13, 2006, 02:31 AM
I have to say, the Talon may not be for everyone but it sure is for me. I have had several high power adult airguns not to mention all the daisy's , crossmans and benji's of childhood and this is the only one that I can honestly say I will never get rid of! I had another rifle that shot as good but the thing weighed 10 lbs. w/o scope. That would be the BSA super 10. Nice but heavy! But this Talon SS is sweet! I can break it down and carry it in a back pack (not freaking out the neighbors) adjust velocity to the type of shooting or pellets. Change barrels for a quick caliber change or just longer barrel. And it weighs only 5.5 lbs with my scope! I personally don't have a problem with my cheek resting on the bottle. I have glued another piece of foam where I reference my cheek for shot consistancy. And I don't agree with a prior poster that said he has trouble with hold over on short range shots due to the high scope mounts. I have taken squirrels at a short as 5 ft. out my window and as long as 40 yds. using the same scope setting. I think it is more just a personal preference thing just as many things are. I love the portability combined with fine accuracy, plenty of adjustable power along with being light weight that this rifle has to offer. Highly recommended! And "NO", I don't work for them. I can prove that with this statement: The safety sucks and the trigger ain't great either. That is until ya take it apart and smooth it. Then it's "AWESOME" :D It's a keeper!

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