7.62 x 43


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desert rat
October 2, 2006, 10:12 AM
I am currently in Afghanistan and we located a large collection of 7.62 x 43 ammo and were trying to figure out what it goes to. Any ideas?

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Oldnamvet
October 2, 2006, 10:27 AM
7.62 mm Versus 5.56 mm (pro .30 article.) [Archive] - OD Board
... rifles using the new 7.62 x 39mm Model 43 intermediate power ammunition. As the develop- ment of ... ... ammunition weight only 47% as much as 7.62 mm NATO ammunition. This weight reduction advantage ... http://www.originaldissen ...ndex.php/t-16384.html

Only thing I could suggest. Is it really 7.62 x 39 but the model 43 intermediate power stuff? Haven't seen it myself. That came from the following website. Did you measure or just look at the headstamp?

http://www.ammunitionammo.com/ammunition1/762ammunition/

SDC
October 2, 2006, 11:24 AM
Are you sure it's 7.62x43? I haven't heard of that one, but the Czechs had a round known as 7.62x45, that they used in a rifle and a LMG (both known as the VZ52) up until 1957. The rifle looks kinda/sorta like an SKS with a gray parkerized finish, side-folding bayonet and a laminated beech(?) stock, while the light machine gun looks more like a Bren than anything else, with a top-mounted magazine and a dual-finger trigger. Have you got a headstamp on these rounds?

Rifle:

http://users2.ev1.net/~lertsman/riflepics/vz52.gif

Machinegun:

http://www.bellum.nu/armoury/vz52.jpg

desert rat
October 2, 2006, 12:25 PM
The box says that it is 7.62 x 43. It is old military leftovers here. Wooden crate tin box inside. Will get more info on it.

SDC
October 2, 2006, 12:31 PM
If this IS 7.62x45, it should be headstamped "bxn" with a two-digit date code.

Ron James
October 2, 2006, 02:15 PM
It's been a long time since I read this so I could be wrong, but wasn't the original FAL chambered in 280 or 7.62X43?

max popenker
October 4, 2006, 08:18 AM
but wasn't the original FAL chambered in 280 or 7.62X43?
1st ever FAL rifle was in 7.92x33 Kurz, following few proto's were indeed in .280 British, but this was 7x43, not 7.62.

Lo.Com.Denom
October 7, 2006, 12:52 PM
Just an idea, but 7.62 x 39mm is sometimes known as M43 (as it was adopted by the Soviets in 1943). Boring answer, I know, but maybe the "M" just got smudged on the box to look like an "X"?

Dionysusigma
October 13, 2006, 05:26 AM
Hmm...

.30 Carbine = 7,62x33mm...
.30 Czech = 7,62x45mm...

Only thing I could find on Google was this:...I've taken an 7.62x43 hit - 122 gr round - put me down.


Did you mean 7.62X39? 7.62X43 is (I think) from the 1871/84 straight pull bolt action Mauser rifle...
Taken from this (first post on pg.10): http://forums.military.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/3101927042/m/322101822/r/4990096950001

...and even then, mzmadmike's knowledge is off. The 1871 was in 11mm Mauser, and the 1871/84 merely added a tube magazine.

My guess is with the others--it's M43/ 7,62x39mm. :confused:

Cosmoline
October 13, 2006, 05:56 AM
Are you sure it's not M43 ball? That's the designation for standard 123 grain 7.62x39. On the crate it may just say "7.62" with 43 near that, and no "x39".

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