My Son - a Victim of Hoplophobia!


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DCR
May 14, 2003, 01:07 PM
I can't freakin' believe it!! Today at my 4 YO son's pre-school (run by Easter Seals, FWIW) is show and tell. Wife let him take his Ghostbusters proton pack - you know, the plastic backpack thingy with the hose coming out the bottom and the doodad at the end of the hose where the imaginary proton beam comes out of to bust ghosts - and they wouldn't let him take it in!!!

They said it looks like a weapon!! An imaginary plastic doodad that doesn't even resemble a firearm or any other conceivable weapon!! It looks more like the portable pack exterminators use!!

Yet they smile and laugh when the kids use blocks and other toys as imaginary guns and pretend to have wars!!:banghead:

If my dear wife didn't need a sanity break two mornings a week, and if my son weren't kind of sweet on a little girl there, I'd yank him out of there loudly and quickly! They've just lost another donor, too. Thank God he's going to Pre-K at a private Catholic school this fall!

Well, he's getting an extra cap gun tonight and as consoling a talk as a 4 YO Ghostbuster can understand.

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swingcatt
May 14, 2003, 01:11 PM
Maybe they were afraid he was going to cross his streams. :)

Will Fennell
May 14, 2003, 01:15 PM
Ab-so-lute-ly UN- freakin'- believe-able.:cuss:

MeekandMild
May 14, 2003, 01:36 PM
Questions:

1) Why is he in preschool?
2) If there is a good reason, why isn't he in HOME preschool?
3) If the good reason is because both parents work are there grandparents?
4) If there are no grandparents then is there another preschool?

Edited later. Yes I realize this is a totally strident reply, and he already answered the questions in his first post, but they are rhetorical questions. I really wonder how it was we as a people have come to accept preschool as being so natural.

The short time my kids had to go to a preschool these were questions I asked myself every day. The only postive thing they got out of the experiance was they learned to swim early. Everything else was negative, like sending them off to a POW camp or something..

Shaggy
May 14, 2003, 01:42 PM
I belive he said one of the main reasons is his wife needs a sanity break twice a week. A notion that I completely agree with by the way. I'm a home Dad and my 4-1/2 year old goes to a preschool twice a week for 2-1/2hrs. 5 hours a week I need dearly.

general
May 14, 2003, 01:48 PM
These PC people are complete MORONS! They'll teach "diversity" and turn around and crucify anyone who shows it. But they don't teach right from wrong or true from false or anything worthwhile.
I thought you learned good from bad by playing "goodguy/badguy". You learn to use your imagination by playing "ghostbuster". Imagination and personal growth is DEAD in education! Repress that little anarchist ghosbuster before it's too late. (ackk - hes got a semi-realistic-futuristic-pseudo-gun!)
Too bad you can't yank him out.
Best of luck to you.... At least he's got a good dad with a head that operates on his head.... he'll be fine.

DCR
May 14, 2003, 01:59 PM
Thanks for all your thoughts!

Crossing his streams!:) I'm going to use that one!

I'd kinda like to tweak their noses a bit (if my wife will let me!) Wonder how they'd react if he was wearing pro-gun t-shirts? Shall we make a test case? Know where I can find toddler-sized gun related t-shirts?

Oleg Volk
May 14, 2003, 02:01 PM
I wonder what the teachers would think if the kiddies tried to play Boers and British or Russians and Chechens...ought to be more confusing to figure out the PC aspects of that than the 7th Cavalry and Indians.

Frohickey
May 14, 2003, 02:06 PM
Get your 4 YO ghostbuster a KalashniKitty t-shirt. :D

BerettaNut92
May 14, 2003, 03:08 PM
I am the gatekeeper.

Are you the keymaster?

10-Ring
May 14, 2003, 03:13 PM
Geez! :rolleyes: At least he'll be in diff't school next year.


Hey, which cap gun did he get? :D

gudel
May 14, 2003, 03:13 PM
we used to bring BB guns to school. during break, we go to the field and start firing (at each other ;) ). nobody was hurt, and it was fun. i guess that's not allowed now.

Nightfall
May 14, 2003, 03:19 PM
I had a plastic Ghostbusters backpack and one of those ghost trapper box things many years ago when I was a wee little 5 year old. When it broke, I made one out of paper, complete with drawn in lights and paper zapper gun. :D

This PC crap is supposedly designed to make our children more peaceful and provide them a safer place to grow up... what it really does is stifle the imagination, and stunt their understanding of good guys/bad guys and right/wrong, as has been said. :banghead:

I feel so sorry for the kids growing up today... *sigh*

GSB
May 14, 2003, 03:21 PM
Maybe they were afraid he was going to cross his streams.

It would be bad.

Mute
May 14, 2003, 05:44 PM
Obviously a case of total protonic reversal. What a bunch of dolts!

TechBrute
May 14, 2003, 05:49 PM
Maybe they were afraid he was going to cross his streams. Ok, that was the "spit milk out your nose" post of the day.:D

Standing Wolf
May 14, 2003, 06:00 PM
They said it looks like a weapon!! An imaginary plastic doodad that doesn't even resemble a firearm or any other conceivable weapon!! It looks more like the portable pack exterminators use!!

The explanation is really very simple: leftists are moral and intellectual cockroaches.

Gordon Fink
May 14, 2003, 06:40 PM
I really wonder how it was we as a people have come to accept preschool as being so natural.

Haven’t you seen the TV propa—I mean, public service announcements?

~G. Fink

voilsb
May 14, 2003, 06:59 PM
just because I'm somewhat ignorant (and not a parent) ...
what is preschool? from the sounds of it, I'm glad my parents didn't have me go to one, but I'm kinda curious what it is.

winstonsmith
May 14, 2003, 07:03 PM
Hey guys. I used to play guns all the time at my after school, with all the blocks and stuff. I was always the Americans, and my friend was the Japanese. Whenever the teacher got suspicious we said we were taking pictures. The fact that the teacehrs bought that for like 3 years still bothers me.

I knew wrong from right. I knew that them telling me how to play was the exact facism that they were trying to save me from.

Cannon7mm
May 14, 2003, 07:50 PM
I think you should go to the principal's office and claim that you son is being discrimiated against on religous grounds. Your family belives in "ghosts" as a religion and that you are insulted that you would be asked to remove your "ceremonial" dress.

If muslims can wear their head gear, etc etc.... so should your son...

:) :) :)

Buy your son a real gun... that will piss everyone off...and make you feel better.

SkunkApe
May 14, 2003, 08:52 PM
Preschool is voluntary, right? You pay for it directly? You have your choice of which preschool to send him to?

The answer seems clear to me.

CB900F
May 14, 2003, 09:55 PM
DCR;

"They said it looks like a weapon!!" You must realize that those types will never understand that the weapon is between a person's ears. The object of their fear is only an implement. It's all part of 'hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, PC. It's obvious that most of the little liberal mental midgets didn't get the moral of the story. Vent - froth - etc.
900F

hso
May 14, 2003, 10:55 PM
I have a 5 year old. I'd have to talk to the head of the school and explain that such behavior on the part of the teacher was inappropriate and that you want to see corrective action taken immediately. You will give a reasonable time for the school to present training for the staff and then you child will be back with the same TOY. If any further problems occur you will withdraw your child from their program, and your finacial support, submit a letter to the editor of the local news papers complaining about their behavior, and send letters to all of your child's classmates' parents complaining about the behavior and identifying alternative schools that have quality programs that don't have this level of ignorance or bias.

J Miller
May 14, 2003, 11:05 PM
The explanation is really very simple: leftists are moral and intellectual cockroaches

Umm, why would you want to insult cockroaches like that? I think they deserve better.

campergeek
May 15, 2003, 12:25 AM
My wife was a public school teacher for several years before our son was born, at which time she chose to stay at home. From her experience I know that public schools are not as stereotypically bad as many in the private/home-school crowd would say, nor are they as good as some government public-school proponents say. Along the same vein, I don't have a particular bias against home-schooling when done well. I've known home schoolers who did an excellent job - much better than any school could have done - and I've known some who did their children a disservice.

When our son was born, we didn't see a need to send him to preschool, but ended up doing so. It wasn't for educational or preparatory reasons - he is nearly 4 but reads at a 1st/2nd grade level - but we noticed that he wasn't relating well to kids his age at play groups. Preschool has helped a lot with social development by allowing him to interact independently (w/o mom or me around) with his peers, and he has shown a lot more confidence and become more outgoing since he has been attending.

The moral? Don't assume that preschool is a necessarily parent's excuse to shirk their parenting responsibility, or that preschools will necessarily damage (or indoctrinate with liberal tripe) the kids. For some it's not a desirable choice; for others it is a useful resource that provides a positive benefit.

Now to bring this back to topic: The original post reminded me that from my days as a shotgun instructor I still have a couple of boxes of demonstration shotgun shells (empty & unprimed, in various calibers). Once in a while my son has "stuff from home" day at school. Hmmmmm... :evil:

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