Why do they throw the gun/Frightened women won't shoot


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January 5, 2003, 01:23 AM
It has been an observation of mine that Superman, various other heroes,villains, and monsters are impervious to bullets.

Why do people on TV or in the movies throw their gun at something that the bullets had no effect on? It is a silly question but why do they do it? You'd think running away or at least reloading and trying again would be better options.

Why are women portrayed as unable to defend themselves?
It strikes me as odd that while the leering killer is approaching our heroine he tells her," you won't shoot me." I scream at the screen encouraging our heroine to shoot. Why do the Hollywood types present women as dopes. Hell, empty the magazine and reload and shoot the killer some more!

He has got a foot long knife! Why the hell does anyone think she won't shoot?

There I have said my piece. It is not a question for the ages but it is one I had to ask!:banghead:

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agony
January 5, 2003, 01:27 AM
LOL. Pretty funny, and timely as I just had a conversation with my fiancée about this matter.

And have you noticed that when they throw the gun, they always miss? **sigh**

Schuey2002
January 5, 2003, 01:34 AM
:D

Because it's in the script...:neener:

Blackhawk
January 5, 2003, 01:36 AM
Same reason actors try to outrun cars trying to run them down instead of just turning around to be ready to jump out of the way when it's too late for the car to turn. It makes for a more thrilling movie or program even though the actions are stupid.

Archie
January 5, 2003, 01:36 AM
was after the six bullets bounce of Superman's chest and the evil-doer throws the gun, why did Superman duck the pistol?

As for helpless women (and men), there are two reasons.

In the older films, this played out the fantasy of men watching the movie; they were putting themselves in the hero's place, being vicariously manly. The women in the audience played into the submissive role so their manly man could rescue them. ... happily ever after....

Second reason is most of these movies would be whole lot shorter if'n Momma shot out the bottom of her purse and the evil-doer with that 2 inch model 10 she carries.

mack
January 5, 2003, 01:39 AM
428 posts already - wow.

1. they throw the useless gun at the superhero in frustration, as if verbally saying, "Here you take this useless piece of crap gun."

2. if they realistically portrayed real armed women, they would have very short films, with very little drama. Just imagine, Serial Killer approaches his first victim, she is armed, Killer says, "You won't shoot me." Woman responds by drilling him with two shots to the body and then one to the head. Finis and the titles role. Besides Hollywood liberals love nothing better than portarying an endless succession of helpless victims across the big screen. It fits with their political beliefs that Guns and Violence are bad, but they help make good movies, so they justify using them to sell tickets by making sure people know that they are aware that guns are bad and evil things and that violence is bad, unless it is employed by a superhuman hero.

Of course I could be completely wrong.

QuickDraw
January 5, 2003, 01:42 AM
I always wondered why they don't keep the gun in case they
come across more ammo!As far as the women never shooting,
I think its to raise the suspense level.Personally,I'd blaze away
as soon as I thought I could hit it(monster,demon,lunatic,etc.)

QuickDraw

dinosaur
January 5, 2003, 07:45 AM
I seem to remember Superman taking a lot of empty guns to the chest. Not a collector I guess since he`d catch them with his super fast reflexes otherwise. Gun hits pavement, loses value.:cuss:

My big mystery is why BG (armed) is running away from GG (unarmed) while shooting wildly over his shoulder. Then he stops and throws the gun.:what:

Mastrogiacomo
January 5, 2003, 08:45 AM
Well, Hollywood thinks women ARE dopes. That's one of the reaons I love Pam Grier. She was the first woman I saw that didn't break her :cuss: shoe heel everytime she ran. Ever notice all the women that are being chased trip at some point? Then I adored Gena Rowlands for her role in GLORIA were she took on the mob with a .38. Pesonally, if you love Hong Kong movies like me, you'll see something you'll never see in Hollywood: women that are lead actors in a film 70-80% of the time. Strong women that don't rely on men to save them: Cheng Pei-Pei, Angela Mao, Michelle Yeoh, Anita Mui, Maggie Cheung, Jade Lee, Cynthia Rothrock (the only American woman to win a Kata tournament in Asian history and holder of five blackbelts), etc. Also, they don't have to be exploited in sex scenes, have rap music blasting in the background of action films, or use profanity. Top that.

Hollywood has never respected women actors though, that's why they're not only dolts, but once they hit the 30 mark in age, you see them less and less. Men however get the girl in the film even if she's young enough to be their grand daughter, and of course we're supposed to believe they'd really be attracted sexually to someone that age. I think it's sad that a movie is categorized "trend setting" when the lead actor is cast with a woman is a romance situation that is actually his age....

There are some woman: Jodie Foster, Jennifer Lopez, Sandra Bullock, Julia Roberts, etc. that are slowly breaking the image of a weak woman with great action films that equal or do far better than male actors but few get paid as much as the worst actor in the same genre even though they're often more successful.:rolleyes:

Tamara
January 5, 2003, 08:48 AM
I may go see a movie this year.

BogBabe
January 5, 2003, 08:52 AM
All of the women in those movies are clones of unamused, from Michael Moore's forum. She who said, "I'd rather be raped than be saved by someone with a gun."

There are women like that. (Sadly, I believe there are far more women like that than men.) Those women would not shoot. They are physiologically incapable of exercising lethal force in order to save their own lives.

They are blissninny liberals, and Hollywood is filled with blissninny liberals. They are the only kind of woman Hollywood is aware of. That's why they populate those movies.

Mastrogiacomo
January 5, 2003, 08:55 AM
You should come to my martial art class. I see only strong women who would not only fire away freely but take your head off in the process with hand-to-hand combat. Women today are NOTHING like the way Hollywood protrays them. That's why I turn to Hong Kong...:D

Tamara
January 5, 2003, 09:00 AM
I dunno, for every woman I know who owns a gun, there must be fifty or a hundred who go "Ew! What would you want one of those for?"

Maybe there's a revolution going on in Boston...

Kaylee
January 5, 2003, 09:14 AM
I dunno, for every woman I know who owns a gun, there must be fifty or a hundred who go "Ew! What would you want one of those for?"

Which, of course, is why we have the Tamara chick... someone to karmically balance them all out by having lots of guns. I figure she'll be about done when she was one gun for every unarmed woman in the world.... somewhat around 3 billion or so?

Right?


:p

-K

Double Naught Spy
January 5, 2003, 09:32 AM
I know this is going to come as a shock to many of you, but most of the stuff you see on TV or at the movies isn't real.

In tandem with what Mastrogiacomo said, most men aren't like Hollywood portrays them either.

One thing that does please me about TV and the movies is that a lot of homeboys get their training and tactics from those sources and much of that stuff is terrible.

Bainx
January 5, 2003, 11:35 AM
I have always got a good laugh when the bad guy throws the gun at the good guy and turns and runs.

Mastrogiacomo
January 5, 2003, 11:38 AM
What about the fact that actors have personal trainers, spend several hours a day in gym -- so they accurately potray your average Job Blow -- even those they're mainly overweight, non-Hollywood glamour types? Go figure...:p

Jim Watson
January 5, 2003, 11:38 AM
Same reason they always throw away an empty canteen.

4v50 Gary
January 5, 2003, 03:52 PM
Archie beat me to it. The TV Superman always ducked when the gun was thrown. :D Script writers & directors. :rolleyes Most of them don't care about the accurate protrayal of firearms usage. They want women to look dumb or helpless when it's not an honest protrayal. Yes there are some helpless ones, then there's ladies like our own Tamara, kaylee, DC, Sandy, Calamity Jane who stand shoulder to shoulder with us on the firing line.

Miss Demeanors
January 5, 2003, 04:43 PM
I can't watch movies like that, it makes me physically ill. I do not enjoy a movie where a woman is standing there going "eek a bad guy" then CRIES. Even if there isn't a gun around, I can see plenty of blunt objects that I would personally grab to defend myself, the character in the movie just stands there like a deer in headlights. grrrr....

What irks me most is when the actress actually HAS a gun in her hand but is so busy crying that the bad guy grabs it from her :rolleyes: He grabs it, kills her, very hard to feel sorry for her. She's an idiot.

Yes it isn't real, just a movie, pathetically there are plenty of real people just as stupid out there. I've mentioned my sister before on TFL who is a die hard liberal anti-gun, anti-self defense, whatever.... Her theory is "If it's my time to go it's my time, there isn't a thing I can do about it." She feels that if she had a knife or gun that the bg would grab it from her and lessen her chances of living. :rolleyes: I've tried to explain that we are not born with capabilities of using these tools but we are born with the gift of learning HOW to use them. It's like talking to a wall, I have other things to do.

So in a way movies are portraying some women accurately, sadly. I just try not to watch movies like that. Personally I think there is way more drama in a true story movie where a woman DOES defend herself. Those are what I call 'feel good movies'. :D

Calamity Jane
January 5, 2003, 08:55 PM
So in a way movies are portraying some women accurately, sadly. I just try not to watch movies like that.

Yup, Miss D, they nauseate me, too. (imagine pukey smiley here). And I must say, with a heavy heart, that I, too, have run into women who have that sort of attitude. By and large, far too many women are not "conditioned" by society to stand up for themselves, to take responsibility for themselves, or to be assertive, and that's a crying shame.

It's happening, increasingly, with men, too; but I digress.

I had a friend in high school (I've lost touch with her over the years) who was such a self-declared "pacifist" that she claimed she wouldn't strike back at someone in self-defense - and I think she was telling me the truth. Yes, she was that meek. Hard to understand how someone can place that little value on her own life. :(

I should have asked her what she would do if called upon to defend the life of a loved one. I can only hope her answer would not have been the same.

I've always been befuddled by so-called "feminists" who, on one hand, claim to support the "empowerment" of women, but who, on the other hand, cry out for "gun control", claiming that we women are too silly and fragile to responsibly and effectively wield a weapon.

Um. I think not.

With some of us gals, our "subservient" socialization didn't take. :fire:

Redlg155
January 5, 2003, 09:46 PM
They never pick up any guns in movies. That drives me nuts. If they do they pick up the sorriest one out there. Guy chooses a PPK instead of an M60 to battle an army of terrorist.

They need to make things a bit closer to reality.

Ever wonder how the guy in the movie can go for hours fighting bad guys, shooting up stuff, blowing up building and whatever without a potty break....but the average moviegoer has to pee at least once during the movie?

Good SHooting
RED

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