Straight Pull Bolt Actions?


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carpediem
October 3, 2006, 01:06 AM
Hi all,

What straight pull bolt action firearms are out there today? I know there's the K31... Any others?

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4v50 Gary
October 3, 2006, 01:08 AM
Canadian Ross rifle of WW I fame. Accurate, but a real POS when its dirty. I've heard of soldiers kicking the bolt handle to try to get it to open. :uhoh: Also, reassemble the bolt wrong and it'll blowback into your face. :eek:

.45Guy
October 3, 2006, 01:13 AM
M95 steyr, and the 1895 Lee Navy.

Prince Yamato
October 3, 2006, 01:13 AM
M95 Mauser (in 8x56 Carbine). It'll take your shoulder off when you shoot it though :)

Jackal
October 3, 2006, 01:24 AM
Blaser rifles.

Gord
October 3, 2006, 01:35 AM
Accurate, but a real POS when its dirty. I've heard of soldiers kicking the bolt handle to try to get it to open.

Hell, somtimes I have to do that with my Mosin when it's clean. :D

Swiss 1911 and K-31 rifles.

Limeyfellow
October 3, 2006, 01:40 AM
Alot of modern Olympic class rifles they use are straight pull too.

Still hard to beat a Swiss M1911.

Odd Job
October 3, 2006, 07:03 AM
Sorry to ask a noob question, but what is the difference between a straight pull bolt action and a traditional bolt action? Is the action of working a bolt, not standard?

boomvark
October 3, 2006, 07:19 AM
Hi y'all,

There's also the Lynx rifle from Finland. (http://www.hjorth.fi/Lynx/XUK_lynxmodels.htm) It's current production. Not sure what the price tag is.

Edit: Wow. I've alternated between absence and lurking for way longer than I thought.

EvisceratorSrB
October 3, 2006, 07:47 AM
Odd Job,

Straight pull bolt action's are ones that you pull straight back from the end of the reciever. For instance, on a K-31, there's a loop you put your finger through to pull back on. A traditional bolt will either be bent or not bent, but either way the bolt handle will be on the right side of the reciever (or left if it's a left handed model), you must push up on the handle, then back.

Clarify things?

boomvark
October 3, 2006, 07:52 AM
Sorry to ask a noob question, but what is the difference between a straight pull bolt action and a traditional bolt action? Is the action of working a bolt, not standard?

Well, as hard as it might be for some of us K31 aficionados to believe, straight pulls are relatively obscure. At least in the sense that there aren't all that many models easily accessible to the general purchaser. :)

Basically, instead of working the bolt up-back-forward-down like the normal bolt-action cycle, it's just back-forward. You could perhaps think of it as being rather like an automatic, minus the automation.

Odd Job
October 3, 2006, 08:21 AM
@ Tree Pig :p

Thanks for the clarification

Edit: thanks also to Eviscerator, only saw your post now, sorry.

Kharn
October 3, 2006, 08:28 AM
AR-15s are available in England with the gas tube removed, making them a straight-pull bolt-action rifle.

Kharn

jd46561
October 3, 2006, 11:24 AM
M95/34 Styer stutzen carbine, is another straight pull. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/jd46561/M95TigrS.jpg

mainmech48
October 3, 2006, 11:38 AM
In addition to the previously mentioned new and antique weapons:

Don't know who's importing now, but EAA used to carry the Baikal biathlon action as the "Biathlon Basic". The full-boat competition version is available in LH, but EAA wouldn't spring for a LH "basic" edition.

Browning (FNH) is making an updated version of the most excellent "T-bolt" .22. Not sure yet of availability or price.

Brno has the ZOM-451 rimfire. Not nearly as slick as the T-bolt, but very accurate and a heap less expensive. I paid about $190 for mine several years back.

Manedwolf
October 3, 2006, 12:31 PM
Straight pull bolt action's are ones that you pull straight back from the end of the reciever. For instance, on a K-31, there's a loop you put your finger through to pull back on.

Actually, that's the cocking ring. You pull straight back on the handle on the right side to operate the bolt action.

Chawbaccer
October 3, 2006, 01:23 PM
Browning did have the one based on the BAR. I don't know if it is currently made or not.

Cosmoline
October 3, 2006, 02:08 PM
Yeah, that rings a bell. I remember seeing a few years ago, but none since. It was an effort to sell more rifles to the Europeans, IIRC. The Accelerator? The Aceration? Something like that.

Got it--ACERA

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_7_45/ai_55605681

Ash
October 3, 2006, 02:52 PM
Fundamentally, most straight pull actions were just a hair's width from becoming autoloaders. The K31 could be made into an autoloader with a Garand style gas system and a recoil spring positioned along side the action just in front of the operating handle, ditto for the M95. The Lee would not have worked that way, due to the way the bolt had to be pulled, but it was really just a tilting bolt design not really all that different from the FAL. The Yugo SKS and MAS-49/56 can both be converted with the flip of a switch to straight pull actions (but cutting off the gas system). All autos can have their gas systems removed to the same effect.

Slide action rifles are also straight-pull bolt action guns, but with the operating handle well forward. You could easily convert the K31 to a slide action by building a slide on the forearm that connected via a side bar to the bolt handle. Remington slide action rifles are straight pulls as well.

Ash

ArmedBear
October 3, 2006, 04:21 PM
ditto for the M95

The en bloc clip design in the Garand was taken from the M95, AFAIK.

I think that all serious Olympic Biathlon rifles are straight-pull .22LR bolt rifles. The rules require a manual action; since it's a speed competition and they aren't allowed semiautos, they go for the quickest accurate rifle they can get.

That's a BEAUTIFUL M95, BTW. I wish mine was that pretty. Mine's a nice carbine, but the wood sure isn't THAT nice!

Browning has reintroduced the T-bolt, BTW, so you can buy a brand-new straight-pull bolt action from them: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/category.asp?value=021B

Also deserving mention is Browning's lever action centerfire rifle, the BLR. It's not really a straight-pull bolt; it's essentially a straigh-pull bolt with a lever attached. Hence, it offers good accuracy and chamberings up to 7mm Rem Mag and .300 Win Mag, something other lever guns can't touch. http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/category.asp?value=003B

Gewehr98
October 3, 2006, 04:48 PM
There's the M1911 Schmidt-Rubin:

http://mauser98.com/schmidt.jpg

And the Baikal (Russian) Biathlon Basic:

http://mauser98.com/biathlonbasicscoped.jpg

ALS
October 3, 2006, 06:14 PM
Ditto on the Blaser R93's. I have a LRS2 in .300 Winchester Magnum and absolutely love it. Damn accurate rifle out of the box. :neener:

R.W.Dale
October 3, 2006, 06:19 PM
A few years back you could buy a COMMERCAL Model96 Mauser that was a straight pull bolt action.

SigfanUSAF
October 3, 2006, 07:37 PM
Cobb FA-50 AR style in .50 BMG

Rifle Specifications FA50(T) Target Model:

Caliber .50 BMG (12.7 X 99mm).

Chambered For Commercial Ammunition.

Operation AR15 type spring loaded bolt/carrier with a straight pull bolt action.

Barrel Length 30 inches.

Rifling Twist 1 turn in 15 inches.

Rifle Weight 29 lbs.

Overall Length 58 inches.


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=45792&stc=1&d=1159918610

boomvark
October 3, 2006, 08:39 PM
mainmech48:
Don't know who's importing now, but EAA used to carry the Baikal biathlon action as the "Biathlon Basic". The full-boat competition version is available in LH, but EAA wouldn't spring for a LH "basic" edition.

If it's the same thing as the Biathlon 7-2, the current importer appears to be Russian American Armory (http://www.raacfirearms.com/Biathlon_7-2.htm).

Beetle Bailey
October 4, 2006, 02:41 AM
A few years back you could buy a COMMERCAL Model96 Mauser that was a straight pull bolt action.


So that's what it was. . .

A few weeks back I was in a gunshop and they had a commercial hunting rifle with the Mauser banner on it. It had a handle mounted on a pivot like the "hands" on an old clock. You sweep the handle back maybe 30-40 degrees and then pull the entire bolt back. The bolt did not rotate. It was chambered in .308 win, BTW.

Seemed kinda neat but wasn't what I was looking for, although I suppose one of the advantages would be the possibility of a very low mounted scope. Sales guy didn't seem to know much about it. . .

Fingolfin
October 4, 2006, 03:02 AM
A few years back you could buy a COMMERCAL Model96 Mauser that was a straight pull bolt action.

These were pretty neat, had a rotating lug bolt that looked kinda like an AR-15's.



Also for straight pulls, several years ago Browning had the "Acera" straight pull bolt action rifle as well. Did well in Europe but never took off here.

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