Blue Book Value Please


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CB900F
October 3, 2006, 10:00 PM
Fella's;

I have a chance to obtain what I think is a BRNO #5 in new condition. My "Gun Trader's Guide" does not list the #5. Can anyone come up with a referenced value for me please?

This is certainly a BRNO. The stock has a schnable front & straight comb butt. This is a conventional bolt action, not the straight pull variant. The rear sight has a stationary middle leaf with fore & aft flip up leaves for 75 & 100 meters. The safety is located at the top rear of the bolt. It is hinged at the front & moves about 45 degrees to the right to engage.

Thank you for any help it's possible to give.

900F

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KUJO2388
October 3, 2006, 10:06 PM
I just looked through the 2006 Standard Catalog of Firearms and I couldn't find a listing for it either. Is there another name for it? Or model number? Or at least what caliber is it in?

.38 Special
October 3, 2006, 10:13 PM
Ditto. There's an over/under rifle in grade V, but nothing else.

Hey, I ride a CB500. Think we can get a Keith/O'Connor fight started? :D

CB900F
October 3, 2006, 10:16 PM
KUJO2388;

My bad, sorry. It's a .22lr. There are apparantly several variants of the basic BRNO .22, numbers 1 thru 5. Most were basic military trainers. This was the last variant, made for Middle Eastern countries, Egypt being the primary customer. I have a pretty good idea of what it is, what I can't find is the value, NIB, of it.

900F

KUJO2388
October 3, 2006, 10:25 PM
BRNO ARMS are imported from Uhersky Brod, Czech Republic. You said it was military So I checked The Standard Catalog of Military Firearms under Csechoslovakia (I think that was where I should look) But I couldnt find it there either. Sorry. Good luck

atblis
October 3, 2006, 11:01 PM
They have many things listed very wrong.
I am not just talking about Fjestad.

.38 Special
October 3, 2006, 11:05 PM
The Standard Catalog lists two .22 bolt guns: the Model 1 ($500 in "excellent" condition) and the Model 2 ("More highly figured walnut stock", $550.)

JohnBT
October 4, 2006, 07:32 AM
I was going to say $300 to $500 or so if it's a nice piece. There's a bunch of info on Brno/CZ at

www.outdoorcanada.ca/cgi-bin/ocforum/oc_config.pl?noframes;read=2272
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** Model 1: .22 LR, 22.75 in barrel, 3-leaf (tri-leaf) sight, 5 shot lip mag., checkered pistol, 6lbs, mfg. 1946-1957. (many have 2 way
adjustable triggers, but not all. Safety is similar but slightly different to modern ZKM-452's)

** Model 2: similar to model 1, with checkered deluxe walnut stock.

** Model 3: .22 LR, target rifle model with 27.5" heavy barrel, adj click target sights, 5 shot clip mag, plain target style stock with
large swivel mounts, 9.5 lbs. Mfg. 1949-1956 (adjustable triggers) (I have never seen one of these yet)

** Model 4: similar to Model 3, except has improved trigger design & safety. Mfg. 1957-1973

** Model 5: similar to Model 1, except has the improved trigger design & safety. Mfg. 1957-1973.

{Most of the above mentioned rifles were almost never imported into the US & are consequently hard to come by and the Models 1-5
command values in the range of $300 (60%) to $750+ (100%)}
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CB900F
October 4, 2006, 08:47 AM
Fella's;

I've been to Rimfire Central about this question also. Here's some more information from that source.

"Brno Model #5 was designed in 1958 as military training rifle for Egypt, Syria and Jordan and manufactured til 1962. Model 5 utilized factory surplus parts from Model #1 (stocks, barrels front and rear sights) and redesigned action and trigger mechanism from two stage mauser trigger to one similar to today's CZ ZKM 452.

Model 5 values in good condition are high ...and (can be) higher than Model 1, because only small number rifles survived harsh middle east sand environment..Some rifles in fair and poor condition were imported from Israel and Egypt in 1990."

What the guys over there haven't been able to provide however, is a Blue Book value. The unit I now have is a new, in the cosmoline, unit. Gotta say that JohnBT's post warms the cockles o' me heart, it does. I paid $225.00 for it.

I do believe I'm gonna keep the little bugger, warts & all. :evil:

900F

JohnBT
October 4, 2006, 10:23 AM
www.collectiblefirearms.com/Rifles22.html - Fredericksburg VA

"Egyptian Military Contract CZ Model 5 Training Rifle" - $495

"Fine Condition"

"There is a 1.5 inch long horizontal hairline crack in the buttstock, next to the buttplate (please, see pictures). The black plastic buttplate does not shows usual "CZ" markings, and most likely is an Egyptian arsenal replacement. One buttplate screw is definitely a replacement (Philips!)."

Yeah, you stole it. :D

John

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