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youngbuck
October 5, 2006, 05:01 AM
hi, im new to the boards and ive got a few questions about a rifle that i found. we were cleaning out my great grand fathers house about a week ago and we found a rifle and some stuff from when he was in the army. i know its made by winchester but i dont know the model or when it was made. i think it was his old hunting rifle. about how much is this gun worth and whats it shoot?

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293612.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561729)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293675.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561728)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293582.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561727)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293417.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561718)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293459.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561719)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293486.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561721)

we tossed most of his old stuff because we did not have room to keep it but i kept the rifle. dad had no interest in it so i took it and started making it in to a home defence rifle im going to mount a lazer and a flashlight and maby a red dot scope next time the gun show comes around ill keep you updated on the project as it goes.

heres some pictures and videos of my project.

Click here to watch 1-cut (http://media.putfile.com/1-cut)
Click here to watch 2-cut (http://media.putfile.com/2-cut)
Click here to watch 3-grind (http://media.putfile.com/3-grind)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293441.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561720)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293588.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561722)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293583.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561723)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293586.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561724)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415293541.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561726)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27415474727.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3561883)

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DRMMR02
October 5, 2006, 05:06 AM
NOOO!!! Don't mount anything on it. That's an M1 Garand rifle. Arguably the most influential and effective rifle carried by American soldiers ever. You have a piece of WWII and family history. Treat it with care and reverence. Leave the scopes and sights form something modern and with less history. I would carefully put it back together and try to fix any changes you might have made already. If you want a home defense rifle with lots of gizmos, go buy an AR.

youngbuck
October 5, 2006, 05:11 AM
never herd of a grand before. i thaught it was a old pos hunting rifle. i think it tooks alot better sence i sanded that old finish off of it.

DRMMR02
October 5, 2006, 05:15 AM
Not to sound like a jerk, but I think the historical value, in general and for your family is a lot more important than converting it to an home defense weapon. Is sanding it the only permanent thing you have done?

seriously, if you're looking for an HD rifle, consider getting an AR-15. Those are meant to have all sorts of stuff mounted to them, if you're into that sort of thing.

For more info Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garand_rifle)

Baba Louie
October 5, 2006, 05:51 AM
You had one of the most sought after of the M1 Garand rifles as it was mfg by Winchester. The "customization you've performed to date, known in milsurp collector circles as "Bubba-fying" it has certainly detracted from its desirability and your great grandpa is probably spinning in his grave. :what:

It is of course, yours to do with it, what you will, but I think most "knowledgable" members here and elsewhere would agree that while interesting (to you) it is horrifying to us (me at least). :eek:

Welcome to THR by the way.

http://p102.ezboard.com/bparallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums
Cruise this board, especially "Military Semi-Auto" forums for a bit and learn about that which you have tweaked. Do not, under any circumstances mention what you have done to date. Just read and learn why some things are better left as is.

sigh

EvisceratorSrB
October 5, 2006, 06:11 AM
Yeah when I read it and viewed the pictures, my jaw literally dropped. My Mauser k98k has many dings and such. Handguard is loose and things of this nature but in order to fix it, probably something permanent must be changed. To me, a permanent change would not make it what it once was. The character is lost from the rifle itself. I'm in disbelief really .:what: Keep it in a safe, give it to your kids. Make sure your kids, give it to their kids. You don't know how valuable that thing is, or ... was.

Edit: I'm going to cry now.

Metapotent
October 5, 2006, 06:12 AM
Youngbuck, no offense but dude...you just did one of the dumbest things of your life.

You had an M1 Garand in almost perfect condition and you sawed off the buttstock and sanded the receiver??? That would be like acquiring an old yet mint-condition Rolls Royce and sawing off the roof and sanding off the paint just for fun!

M1 Garands in equally good condition can be worth $1000 and sometimes alot more than that. So you really should have done some research before you decided to mutilate that rifle!

DRMMR02 said:

Not to sound like a jerk, but I think the historical value, in general and for your family is a lot more important than converting it to an home defense weapon. Is sanding it the only permanent thing you have done?

He sawed the damn buttstock off!!!

Edit:
we tossed most of his old stuff because we did not have room

I really pray to God that you didn't 'toss' any of your Great Grandfathers war memorabilia!!

2nd Edit:

youngbuck, I looked at your Putfile account of "cobraboy1989" from the links you provided and in your pictures there are a whole bunch more M1 Garands assembled and disassembled along with enblock clips. So obviously you knew what you were doing, what the rifle was, and you didn't just acquire a gun you had no clue about.

So are you just playing games or what? Can you explain this (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3576843) and this (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3576379)?

Bruce333
October 5, 2006, 06:25 AM
Go to this site and you'll see what a horrible mistake you've made by altering that rifle.

http://www.thegca.org/

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=53&sid=6da103bdaa5cf43d253cbac5edc2f84c

GunnySkox
October 5, 2006, 07:51 AM
Looking at the rest of the photos in your putfile gallery, "youngbuck", I hope you don't up and decide to bastard up the rest of those rifles like you've already done with that one Garand. I gotta say you're probably not going to get many compliments for it.

~GnSx

Bob R
October 5, 2006, 07:52 AM
Youngbuck,

It's your gun, do whatever you want to it. Hell, you can have it gold plated if that is what trips your trigger. Or have it duracoated fuscia...it is yours to play with.

bob

btsyshsbnd
October 5, 2006, 07:52 AM
in addition to the mutilation what's the legality of cutting a rifle down like that?

Dr. Dickie
October 5, 2006, 08:02 AM
Oh my god, I think I'm going to faint:eek:

Glockfan.45
October 5, 2006, 08:14 AM
:barf: What is your major malfunction? Even if I didnt know squat about guns I wouldnt cut up great grandpas old service rifle. P.S if that gun is less than 26inches long it is illegal.

repsychler
October 5, 2006, 08:39 AM
I think we're being punked.
:)

lawandorder
October 5, 2006, 08:40 AM
I hope it is a terrible joke and he is pulling our legs with some old parts.

Rovi
October 5, 2006, 08:43 AM
So are you just playing games or what? Can you explain this and this?Like Metapotent, I strongly suspect we're having our chains yanked here.

If so, I guess youngbuck hooked a few. Ho ho. Big joke.

If not? Words fail me. I despair that someone might do this with their Great-Grandfather's stuff.


I'm praying it's a 'joke' :(

.

Vairochana
October 5, 2006, 08:53 AM
I get it...funny...:what:

Dr. Dickie
October 5, 2006, 09:12 AM
My first thought as well. They way he holds the cut stock is just a little to "cutsie" (and why would that be included if not for the dramatic effect of devastation).
Funny, yeah. But man, you don't joke about a Garand, it's bad juju:evil:

tenbase
October 5, 2006, 09:17 AM
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1911/thudwk9.gif

Leatherneck
October 5, 2006, 09:41 AM
I just threw up a little in my mouth. :what:

TC

foghornl
October 5, 2006, 09:46 AM
I just threw up a little in my mouth.

I can only hope that that is a cruel joke. If not....

I'm still hurlin' my breakfast all over the keyboard.

If he has any others like that, don't touch.....other than to put in a crate and send to me.....

zedheadmc
October 5, 2006, 10:01 AM
I'm with Bob R. It would have been nice to keep it original but it is yours.

GunnySkox
October 5, 2006, 10:09 AM
in addition to the mutilation what's the legality of cutting a rifle down like that?

Per the NFA, a non-NFA legal rifle must have a barrel >= 16" in length, and must be at least 26" overall.

I read somewhere that a rifle which is shorter than 26" with a barrel longer than 16" is termed a "Short Rifle" (as differentiated from a Short Barrelled Rifle).

Cheers,
~GnSx

4v50 Gary
October 5, 2006, 10:19 AM
That patch on the left shoulder with the anchor, eagle & submachine gun was an Amtrac unit of WW II. My uncle served in that unit. Those guys operated the Water Buffalos (LVT1s through 5). Sorry to see you cut that rifle. Its value plumetted.:(

kludge
October 5, 2006, 10:24 AM
OMG! did he just cut the stock off a $1000 Garand?

:cry:

redneckdan
October 5, 2006, 10:30 AM
congrats. you probably just made the biggest mistake of yer life.

kfranz
October 5, 2006, 10:32 AM
My BS flag is flying high too. I just don't believe the guy doesn't know anything about rifles, but can whip up fairly professional looking mods and knows enough to take the "right" before pictures. Further viewing of the photo album add evidence to the BS theory. Those of you that fell for it, consider it a late/early April fools joke.

RNB65
October 5, 2006, 10:34 AM
IF this was really a WWII era Winchester Garand, you realize you just destroyed much of the value of a rifle that was worth a whole lot of money?

:banghead: :( :banghead: :( :banghead:

deadin
October 5, 2006, 10:35 AM
Any of you guys that actually believe this thread want to buy a bridge? :neener:

Dean

DontBurnMyFlag
October 5, 2006, 10:36 AM
did that just really happen?

The post seemed like a joke at first. I am speechless.

dear god. the garand.

Ohen Cepel
October 5, 2006, 10:56 AM
I'm also hoping this is a sick joke.

Please, be a joke!

Byron Quick
October 5, 2006, 11:08 AM
Hopefully, a trollish joke. If not, an extremely costly mistake.

hso
October 5, 2006, 12:30 PM
Troll alert. I have a lot of trouble believing that anyone with the intelligence to use the internet and post here would not have done a simple search on the net first to find out about the weapon.

Of course I have even more trouble believing anyone that could do that would be (insert term here) to deface a valuable rifle like that. Let's hope he's pulling our leg.

Third_Rail
October 5, 2006, 12:33 PM
That's much better! I was hoping someone would fix all the M1's shortcomings. :D

MikeB
October 5, 2006, 12:45 PM
I really hope this is a joke and that. If not I'm gona cry.

Low Key
October 5, 2006, 12:52 PM
I hope he really didn't do that! :scrutiny:

If he did...:barf: Thats a low serial # garand, probably worth much more than $1000.

BradN
October 5, 2006, 01:32 PM
This has already made the rounds. It's an obvious joke. Calm down, folks.

Justin
October 5, 2006, 01:35 PM
I call shenanigans.

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