"Pet" Rifle action.


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.45Guy
October 5, 2006, 04:23 PM
I just thought this might be a fun thread. You can actually tell alot about a person by what they shoot, so I suppose I'll get this thread started. My "pet" action would be the Carcano.:)

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Grizzley Adams
October 5, 2006, 04:30 PM
well i only own one rifle and thats a marlin 1895 cowboy in 45/70 and i use it to put food on my table.i have shot everything from wolves to grizzley bear with that rifle,and it has dropped em all this is a damn fine rifle for my needs.

Smokey Joe
October 5, 2006, 04:37 PM
Interesting question. I vote for the Mauser--chiefly because almost every bolt-action made in the last 100 years owes at least a little, in many cases a lot, to Paul Mauser's brainchild.

They're still available today--either as unissued military real Mauser, or commerical real Mauser, or commercial knock-off, for example the Ruger M77, or the CZ in 7.62x39. (That's the only CZ I've handled, and am not familiar with CZ's model numbers.)

There are only a few really brilliant originators in firearms design: Colt, Whitney, Mauser, Browning, Garand, Simonov, Kalashnikov, and Stoner come to mind. And the guy that came up with the flintlock, and the one who originated the percussion cap.

Hoppy590
October 5, 2006, 05:41 PM
91/30 Mosin Nagant. its got the reach, its got the hit, its simple, and ammo is available.:) :D

Smokey joe! dont forget Minnie ( though not a gun designer, hes dont as much/ more for us than browning!)

Eightball
October 5, 2006, 05:59 PM
Probably the semi-auto action of my Saiga. Nothing like a good "thwump" from a .308 plus the fun of an AK. The fact that it looks like a poor man's SVD is fun, too. :D

wanderinwalker
October 5, 2006, 09:43 PM
Hmmm... Pet action type favorite style? That's tough. :uhoh:

I really like the simplicity and handiness of a good lever-action, particularly Marlins of all flavors. They just have a kind of persona about them that says, "Yeah, I can handle it." And they're relatively easily affordable, which is more than I can say of my other choice (see below). Plus they have more than a century of history. While not super accurate or long ranged, they can be very practical and useful tools.

But then again, I love AR-15s just for being what they are: accurate, soft-shooting, ergonomic and fast. Of course, soft shooting comes at the price of power. Naturally, more power can be had on the platform, at a cost. And the cost is the big turn-off, the reason I don't have half-a-dozen of them in everything from .223 match rifle to a .50 Beowulf stomper to a 6.8mm tactical carbine to a 9mm plinker/house gun to a... See my point?

So I guess flip a coin and check on the ol' checkbook for preference there! :banghead:

Edited: My sig line is a reference to one of my favorite rifle/revolver combos. Guess what the rifle is? :D

dakotasin
October 5, 2006, 10:48 PM
my favorite action is the remington 700.

Gewehr98
October 5, 2006, 10:50 PM
The 98 Mauser. :D

Il Duca
October 6, 2006, 12:12 AM
In bolts I am a fan of the Savage action (3 position tang safety, Accutrigger, etc.), in fact I am awaiting a barrel for a custom project I'm working on, building a hunting rifle in .358 Win. Also, I like the Winchester M70.

In autos, I like the M1 action. I would take a Socom or M1A over an AR anyday.

rockstar.esq
October 6, 2006, 12:39 AM
I think the neatest rifle action I've ever seen / held was a "Low wall" winchester in .22LR. Although it chambered the humble rimfire, it closed with the authoritive motion of a well designed mechanism.

.45Guy
October 6, 2006, 12:44 AM
Sounds remarkably like a Stevens favorite:p Though I agree, there is something about falling block actions.

cracked butt
October 6, 2006, 01:47 AM
Mauser 98. Noone's come up with a better mousetrap since that one.

Cosmoline
October 6, 2006, 01:48 AM
The Mosins always look at me with big sad eyes and seem to follow me home, so I suppose they must qualify.

Axman
October 6, 2006, 01:51 AM
I own 3 longarms and all are bolt actions.

Model 195 Mossberg shotgun
SMLE #1 MkIII
Daisy Model 2202 .22 LR

Limeyfellow
October 6, 2006, 02:21 AM
Probrobly be the Lee action. Sure its not as strong as the Mauser and so on, but it has a significant advantage of speed, its far easier to fix headspace problems merely by screwing on a new bolthead. It can be cycled quieter than most others when need be, reliable as you could possibly need and pretty accurate to boot. Cycles alot easier to me too. Its very hard for them to get stiff and hard to open the bolt and the pull back is rather easy.

Just wish it was used in more rifles nowadays apart from military enfields and custom jobs.

heavyrecoil
October 6, 2006, 02:58 AM
Mauser-esque action.

Love it in my Kimber 84, Ruger 77 RSI, and actual Mauser 98 from Mitchell arms.

silverlance
October 6, 2006, 03:16 AM
and the bayonet is a heart stopping beauty. i'll post a pic.

Nematocyst
October 6, 2006, 04:25 AM
I'm undecided ... yet.

It could be bolt (as in CZ 452),
lever (as in Marlin 336),
or pump (as in Rem 870 & 7600).

Probably not auto.

Reading with interested...

wayne in boca
October 6, 2006, 06:54 AM
M14 rotating bolt,no doubt about it.

Quickdraw Limpsalot
October 6, 2006, 12:47 PM
I'd take a good levergun over any other... every day of the week.

Smokey Joe
October 6, 2006, 01:34 PM
Hoppy590--Minnie who? Surely you can't mean Minnie Mouse. Of what designer are we speaking here--Sorry, but I don't recognize the name. :confused:

.45Guy
October 6, 2006, 01:49 PM
Claude …tienne Miniť, a Captain in the French army that improved on William Greener's bullet design.

MachIVshooter
October 6, 2006, 01:49 PM
Minnie who? Surely you can't mean Minnie Mouse. Of what designer are we speaking here--Sorry, but I don't recognize the name.

Claude Etienne Miniť-he designed the hollow base conical bullet that ushered in a new era of accuracy and range ("mini ball").

My favorite action would have to be the Remington M700. Though Mauser type with claw is smoother, the M700 is very uncluttered and clean.

My "pet" action would be the Carcano

Might I ask why? While I like the fast action of a Carcano, it is notably one of the weakest designs in turn bolt guns.

.45Guy
October 6, 2006, 02:01 PM
Might I ask why? While I like the fast action of a Carcano, it is notably one of the weakest designs in turn bolt guns.

Why? Because they're light, handy, and almost universally detested.(Hence cheap.) They also chamber a decent round, and can easily be rechambered to a few other handy rounds.And yes, there is a more than a wee bit of WOP blood in my veins. I'm doing a Beretta 38 action up in .257 Roberts currently. As to the action being one of the weakest, I believe good ole Major Ackley would beg to differ. While it's certainly no large ring 98, it's no shoulder fired hand grenade either. Here is a 1917 Brescia Moschetto per Truppe Speciali in 7.62x39. The 17.5 inch barrel makes it REALLY handy.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/may06009.jpg

.45Guy
October 6, 2006, 02:19 PM
Here's Mag from Gunboards wildcat Carcano:

"I got to use my " 7.8 x 56 mm " Light weight Carcano hunting today. I ended up using .321 dia 170 bullets in a cutdown 30/06 case with the rim rebated to .448 . That was the only bullet size that could be shot in my carbines barrel with out overpressure, I had to rebate the rims for the cases to feed and fit the boltface. My hunting load is the 170 gr flatnose at 2350 fps. Here is a photo of the 200 lb wild boar shot at about 70 yards and the rifle. The bullet went through both shoulders, got the heart, and was found in pieces under the far side skin. mag"

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/200642194252_7820pig.jpg

aka108
October 6, 2006, 02:35 PM
Mauser 98 action as found on the Model 1909 made for Argentina by DWM or on the Mauser made Peruvians. Like butter.

CornCod
October 6, 2006, 03:53 PM
.45guy has a good point about the Carcano. If I reloaded I would shoot mine a lot more. Its Mannlicher magazine system is easy to use and pleasant.

Zeke Menuar
October 6, 2006, 03:59 PM
Lee-Enfield. It's a slick. smooth action. Ten round mag in a proven round. Escpecially in the No4MkI version. One of my favorite guns to shoot. Honorable mention to the Ishy2A. Like that one as well, clunky stock and all.

ZM

.45Guy
October 6, 2006, 04:07 PM
Lee-Enfield. It's a slick. smooth action. Ten round mag in a proven round.

I'd have to say it is a close second in my book. Both my father, and father in law have all matching #'s jungle carbines. Fine little rifles. The only problem I've noticed is that the flat springs in the mag do break on occasion.

Eightball
October 6, 2006, 04:57 PM
.45 Guy, that is a beautiful Carcano. I didn't think they could look that nice.

.45Guy
October 6, 2006, 05:21 PM
45 Guy, that is a beautiful Carcano. I didn't think they could look that nice.

I assume you're talking about Mag's, as mine looks like another greasy mil-surp. You may want to check out Gunboards Italian firearms forum, there is a long photo intensive thread about the making of that rifle.

usmccpl
October 6, 2006, 06:55 PM
I guess my pet action is win 70. Got 3 now 1 on layaway and two that a buddy is building.




one shot one kill

colt.45
October 6, 2006, 08:19 PM
mine would be the m-14. it is the perfect rifle in my opinion.

MachIVshooter
October 7, 2006, 12:38 AM
Because they're light, handy, and almost universally detested.(Hence cheap.) They also chamber a decent round, and can easily be rechambered to a few other handy rounds.And yes, there is a more than a wee bit of WOP blood in my veins.

I won't argue that, unless were talking about the long rifle. My M91 (Terni , 1917) is the longest rifle I own, save my Armalite AR-50. But my 91/38 Cavalry (GVT, 1940)and 7.35mm M38 (Terni, Finnish marked, 1938) are definitely light and handy, and I do enjoy shooting them.

I only asked because this thread was entitled "pet action", and virtually any action can be used in a package as light and handy as the Carcano carbines.

FWIW, I'm Italian as well. Luckily, the darker complexion prevailed, as my Sicilian father got burned if he looked at the sun wrong.

rockstar.esq
October 7, 2006, 01:37 AM
Hey I'm glad you folks like your Carcano's... So far it's one of three military arms I've held that struck me as an absolute last ditch sort of weapon design. I'm still a little mystified as to how the country that brought us Beretta's famous arms produced such a poorly put together rifle for it's military. Just for clarity the other two were the Liberator and the nambu pistol.

.45Guy
October 7, 2006, 01:51 AM
and almost universally detested That's why I love 'em:neener:

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