Paul Harvey reporting Colt Python passes through metal detectors?


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Ramius
October 6, 2006, 02:20 PM
Listening to Paul Harvey News this morning, and if I heard correctly:

"NYC police are on the lookout for a new gun that can pass through metal detectors with a handfull of pennies. This deadly new gun is only 2 and a half inches long, but shoots real... deadly... bullets. This gun, which costs $5,000.00, has a name... it is called the COLT... PYTHON."

I listened again at noon, I was sure I must have heard it wrong. But outside of some inadvertant paraphrasing, I'm quoting above what I heard.

Obviously Paul Harvey News is not new to mistakes- just a couple of days ago they reported the old urban ledgend about JATO rockets on a Chevy Impala in Arizona as fact, and issued a correction and apology on the noon broadcast- but you'd think they'd check this nonsense out. Or did I miss something and is Colt marketing something I don't know about?

Would appreciate any information.

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ReidWrench
October 6, 2006, 02:25 PM
He is probably talking about the Swiss MiniGun . I have heard other newsmen alerting me to its existance in just that same fashion . None bothered to mention a paper clip and a couple of rubber bands would have double the KNOCK DOWN POWER .

Remember when he was really gunning for cold fusion , every day . It was going to change the world . And then nada .........

armedcitizen
October 6, 2006, 02:27 PM
I imagine ol' Paul was talking about this:

http://www.swissminigun.com/home.html

While I won't test my theory, I'm pretty sure my Python will not go undetected:

http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/album/00001552/Python.jpg

unspellable
October 6, 2006, 02:58 PM
It's got to be the mini Python. Just the ticket for overly aggressive cockroaches.

Zundfolge
October 6, 2006, 03:02 PM
HA HA ... a Python through a metal detector ... that's rich.

The only way you're getting through a metal detector with a Colt Python is if you trip over its power cord on the way in.


He's got to be talking about the Swiss Mini Gun as it's styled after a Python.

http://www.swissminigun.com/img/gal_1.jpg

Good old Paul Harvey ... always talkin' out of his hiney.

AJ Dual
October 6, 2006, 03:06 PM
He's got to be talking about the Swiss Mini Gun as it's styled after a Python.


Which, as far as I'm concerned is a hoax, as there's never been a non-CGI picture of the mini-gun in circulation on the net.

And if you're having a hard time telling, look at the grips. They're obviously a texture map of woodgrain applied to the mesh (the "underlying" wire-frame that defines the shape) of the grips. Besides just looking obviously CG, the grain follows the surface of the grips, instead of being carved away in layers like it would be in real life...

The "metalwork" is pretty good, but it's also easy to render. Rendering organic materials (like wood) realisticly is much harder.

tellner
October 6, 2006, 03:53 PM
I'm afraid that Paul Harvey contracted a bad case of the cerebral termites somewhere during Ronald Reagan's second term. Whatever he says should take that into account.

DigitalWarrior
October 6, 2006, 04:09 PM
:confused: If someone ever shoots me with one of those, I may become mildly annoyed.

Zundfolge
October 6, 2006, 04:22 PM
If someone ever shoots me with one of those, I may become mildly annoyed.
Assuming you even feel it :neener:

Ramius
October 6, 2006, 04:28 PM
Thanks for the replies- I knew I could count on everyone (well most everyone!:evil: ) for the real story.

I'm going to email a mild letter of concern to PHN later tonight expressing my disapointment with the lack of facts.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts...

Thanks again.

Geronimo45
October 6, 2006, 04:42 PM
Passes through metal detectors - is that from the same company that makes the ceramic Glocks (Die Hard II) that can get through them?
Next thing you know, they'll ban revolvers from carry-on luggage. :neener:

Ramius
October 6, 2006, 05:51 PM
Yeah, I expect this sort of nonsense from the hysterical media and hollywierd, but Harvey has up until now shied away from such ridiculous claims. And unlike the lefties, he would be more inclined to issue an apology and correct a mistake. That's what I am hoping for.

mp510
October 6, 2006, 06:07 PM
He shouldn't be all that worried, ATF says they ain't legal to import! Didn't they say something about gun control working......what, it dosen't???

Remember the ATF memo that warned cops to be on the look out for these, that they may be disguised as key fobs.

I'd be more concerned about being struck with an air rifle pellet. With those fancy new Gamo 24K hunting pellets, you can get some like 1200+ FPS out of the fancy new Gamo hunting rifle.

Keith Wheeler
October 6, 2006, 06:22 PM
but Harvey has up until now shied away from such ridiculous claims

Huh? This is the fellow who once claimed "you wouldn't knowingly put an acid in your mouth, would you?"

Uh sure. Soda, orange juice, wine, tea. All sorts of really tasty acids out there. Not to mention your mouth is already acidic.

He's really good at keeping his Norman Rockwell image going, but just because he's not some nutcase hollywood leftist media hype doesn't mean he's not a media hype. The guy is really good at using half truths to sell a product, uh I mean get his point across. :rolleyes:

Mikee Loxxer
October 6, 2006, 06:29 PM
Growing up everyone where I lived would listen to Paul Harvey daily. I used to think he was an honest straightforward guy although a little conservative for my tastes. Now I am convinced he is less than honest and will just make stuff up for his show. Case in point is where he did a story on a lady I now work with who traveled to all 50 states during the late 1980’s. She pointed out to me that he flat out fabricated the end of the story about her going on a honeymoon in Alaska to wrap up the tour.

I think Paul Harvey is just an entertainer to whom the truth takes a back seat.

TX1911fan
October 6, 2006, 07:25 PM
This is from the above referenced website:

SwissMiniGun is proud to present the smallest revolver and ammunition in the world.
It's total length does not exceed 5.5 cm.

It shoots 2.34 m/m rim-fire ammunition.


This firearm is a scaled-down model of the much acclaimed and mystical Colt Python with all the same features as are found on the real size gun.


The manufacture of this exceptional miniature revolver has only been possible by exploiting the incomparable expertise and latest technologies of the Swiss Watch and Jewellery Industry, upon which its Worldwide reputation is built.

Our revolver and its ammunition are 100% Swiss Made.

SwissMiniGun is a fully authorized and licenced gunsmith company in Switzerland.


Good old Paul is too old and addled to realize that the press release says "modeled" on the Colt Python. And even if this thing is real, it definitely won't make it through a metal detector. I got nailed with a couple quarters, those things are set so sensitive.

Cosmoline
October 6, 2006, 07:27 PM
Isn't Paul Harvey like 103 now? He's lost in his own strange world.

btsyshsbnd
October 6, 2006, 07:27 PM
thanks alot, when I saw that beautiful pic of your python I started drooling and shorted out my keyboard you should warn us so we can put on a bib or cover the keyboard.

Bob R
October 6, 2006, 09:10 PM
Armedcitizen,

My god!! It is the twin we have been searching for for years! The twins, born to a destitute family that was forced to seperate them at birth to provide a better home for them. I see that you adopted one of them, we adopted the other. Ever since reaching puberty so many years ago our has been asking if it was whole. It says there was an empty spot in its being, now we know why. After years of searching throughout the country and unable to find the twin (all adoption records were destroyed in a fire), it shows up here, of all places. As you can see the similarities are undeniable, they even like the same places to rest! This truely shows the power of the internet. :eek:

I feel the twins should be reunited, so if you would be kind enough to to send yours to me, I will see that it happens. Hell, I will even post pictures of the happy reunion for you to enjoy. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/Bob8251/pythonsm2.jpg

Thanks,
bob

mogunner
October 6, 2006, 09:16 PM
"And now you know the rest of the story."

gunsmith
October 6, 2006, 10:36 PM
turn the channel.

and thats the rest of the story!:barf:

STW
October 6, 2006, 10:52 PM
As an aside, at one time my uncle was was president of NAA, circa 1974. At the time they also manufactured Casull's .454. This was before Freedom Arms.

As an experiment they took a couple of those little NAA revolvers and stuck one in each cup of a police woman's bra and sent her through security at the SLC airport. She passed. They then told security that she was carrying two guns and she still passed. He figured, given the technology of the time, that using the right steel he could have easily gotten a .454 through.:scrutiny:

(I regularly regret not buying one of his .454's before he lost the company :banghead: or being able to inherit his personal one when he died a few years ago :( )

22-rimfire
October 7, 2006, 12:49 AM
The Paul Harvey statement is about the stupidist thing I have heard in a long time. No way would a Python pass through a metal detector without setting off the alarm.

The little NAA mini revolvers passing through security does not surprise me at all. I routinely carried fairly heavy knives through security without the metal in the knife triggering the alarm. This was pre 9-11. I believe they have increased the sensitivity or strength of those since 9-11 and I highly doubt that the little mini revolvers would go through now without detection. Belt buckles and the steel arch in shoes set off the detector now. My one pair of hiking boots always had a hard time going though the detectors even prior to 9-11. Now you take off your shoes. Back then, they didn't ask you to do that. Frankly, I could have had a lot of things in my shoes back then... guess you know the reason for shoe removal now.

Hkmp5sd
October 7, 2006, 12:55 AM
but Harvey has up until now shied away from such ridiculous claims

Paul Harvey jumps on every one of these things. We're still waiting on his retraction about the Glock 17 passing through metal detectors. He adores talking about "cop killer bullets."

What's funny is back during the 80s when smuggling drugs through Florida in small planes was all of the rage and they were looking at serious restrictions on planes, pilots and flight paths, he went ballistic about how useless these laws would be because the drug runners would simply ignore them and fly their illegal aircraft anyway. Seems he was seriously into flying back then.

Ramius
October 7, 2006, 01:07 AM
You Gentlemen have given me a wonderful idea... :evil:

I think I'll include a link to this thread in any complaints I register.

Remember the idea here isn't to point out what an idiotic idea the original story was- we know better- but to convince those responsible to correct the mistake, and (dreaming here) do better in the future. :eek:

At minimum I'd like to keep them from feeling like they can do such things without any repercussions. :D

Nicolai
October 7, 2006, 10:13 AM
I heard it too and couldn't believe what I heard. The more Harvey talked, the more ridiculous it sounded. Airport security personnel can't detect a Colt six-shot revolver because it's in the same pocked with some dimes?

profshadow
October 7, 2006, 10:46 AM
The ATF is a-twitter, according to CBS News

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1697863/posts


Federal ATF Agents issued an officer safety advisory on what is called the world’s smallest gun after a CBS 2 inquiry. The Alert has been issued both in the New York and nationally to all Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives criminal investigators and will be passed on to other federal agencies.

ATF has confiscated thousands of disguised or miniature guns -- from flashlights that shoot a .25 caliber bullet to pen guns.

The latest miniature gun that is alarming ATF agents is the SwissMiniGun. It’s extremely small -- just over two inches long. It comes with tiny bullets designed especially for the weapon that can penetrate skin. Even in its holster, this gun is so small that law enforcement experts say it could pass for a keychain ornament.

According to William McMahon, special agent in charge of the New York ATF office, that makes it the perfect stealth weapon for a variety of criminals.

“A terrorist, a criminal trying to sneak into bank, all kinds of criminals. I can see no legitimate reason to own this gun. It seems to be just made to be hidden,” McMahon said.

As its name indicates, the SwissMiniGun is manufactured in Switzerland. CBS 2 News reached the company's CEO, Paul Erard, by phone.

He said the gun is a miniature, detailed copy of the Colt Python revolver. He sells it for roughly $5,000 to gun collectors (though he added that most of his guns are encrusted with diamonds and gold, so they can cost $30,000).

He said he has sold 50 miniguns, all to only one area of the world. “Contacts in the Middle East asked me to make a miniature of Colt Python," said Erard.

Erard refused to say which Middle-Eastern countries. His reaction when asked if terrorists might use it? At first he laughed and said, “ Absolutely ridiculous.”

When CBS 2 got him to admit his gun shoots bullets using gunpowder, he then changed his tone. “Of course I am concerned as manufacturers of air guns are concerned. This is not a toy,” said Erard.

A national police organization notes that unlike air guns, SwissMiniGuns can be concealed and shoot with gunpowder bullets that travel at 400-plus feet per second. These bullets could be aimed at the face.

Joe Occhipinti of the National Police Defense Foundation was alarmed by the SwissMiniGun’s potential uses, noting, “In a routine stop, a guy could certainly make a joke, and 'Say see my little gun here?' point at the officer and shoot. It looks like a key chain and [an officer’s] guard would be down."

Occhipinti added, "I could easily see a passenger attempting to go to an airport take out a key chain put in with coins in the little basket. No one would detect that."

SwissMiniGuns cannot be legally imported into the United States because the barrel is less than three inches long -- in this case, a lot less.

No SwissMiniGuns have been recovered here yet, but McMahon admits, “If it came into the United States, it would be a concern.”

This alert is the result of a single officer in Maryland seeing the gun on a Web site and alerting other officers, including the National Police Defense Foundation.

CBS 2 News learned of the weapon and passed word on to the ATF. It is an example of officers using the Internet the way some terrorists do but in this case, to combat them.

hankdatank1362
October 7, 2006, 11:22 AM
OMG!!! They could penetrate skin? And be aimed at the face? If someone pulled a swiss minigun on me, I'd chew it up into a little tinfoil ball.

Now If I ever found myself on the opposite end of a real mingun (GE), or either of those gorgeous Colt Pythons, I'd probably piddle.

Ramius
October 7, 2006, 12:48 PM
FWIW guys, I sent the following email via http://www.paulharvey.com/

I have been a loyal listener to Paul Harvey News & Comment for many years, but recent incorrect facts in stories have me very concerned.

Your comments on the "Colt Python" on the Friday broadcast were incorrect, and very inflamatory. I invite you to read a thread I started on a firearms forum discussing this:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=226175

Inflamatory and incorrect comments on subjects as sensitive as firearm ownership are not what I am looking for when I tune in to Paul Harvey each day. I hope you can find time to issue a correction soon, and avoid such mistakes in the future.

Thank you, <signed name>

Not getting my hopes up, but it's fun to let them know they stepped in it. :evil:

Anybody else feels froggy, feel free to stop by and tell them what you think.

C.

ETXhiker
October 7, 2006, 04:31 PM
Just to clarify, the Swiss Mini-gun is real. It is not intended to be a viable weapon, however. It is simply the Swiss again demonstrating how clever hey are by making incredibly tiny miniatures for wealthy buyers who like cool toys. (Are you reading this, Paul?)

tellner
October 7, 2006, 04:38 PM
I'm imagining Martha Stewart arrested by the TSA for carrying her hot glue gun onto a flight. Has anyone read Poe's "The System of Doctor Tar and Professor Feather"? :banghead:

bakert
October 7, 2006, 05:16 PM
I thinkthe whole story is bogus although my hip replacement joint didn't show up once on the older airport scanner. I told them about it beforehand and they said try it. BUT, a pack of gum wouldn't let me pass through a courthouse scanner some years before that . Maybe if one hid it in their--------??? Use your imagination!!:D

rfwobbly
November 28, 2008, 03:44 PM
"Now I am convinced [Paul Harvey] is less than honest and will just make stuff up for his show. Case in point is where he did a story on a lady I now work with who traveled to all 50 states during the late 1980’s. She pointed out to me that he flat out fabricated the end of the story about her going on a honeymoon in Alaska to wrap up the tour. I think Paul Harvey is just an entertainer to whom the truth takes a back seat."

Maybe she did the honeymoon in Paul Harvey's back seat on the way to Alaska and is simply too embarrassed to fess up? You know, it was the 80's !!

:evil:

Ramius
November 28, 2008, 05:14 PM
Since the death of his wife, the show has been done by his son, Paul Harvey Jr. and a few other substitute hosts. I rather expect the show to quietly fade away soon, so this topic is pretty much a moot point now.

makarovnik
November 28, 2008, 05:25 PM
It would pass if the metal detector was off or malfunctioning. I love this type of talk because it just shows how stupid some anti-gunners are. Sorry, I can respect anti-gunners and agree to disagree with them without insulting their intelligence but anyone who believes that crap is stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Speedo66
November 28, 2008, 05:37 PM
At the price of 6300 Sw. Fr. (approx US$5200) for this novelty delivered outside of Switzerland, I can see where these are going to fly off the shelf and be a world wide danger.

Just the thing for shooting flies in your kitchen.

goon
November 28, 2008, 05:48 PM
It would be really nice if someone would just check some facts once in awhile. Imagine how much better of a place the world would be.
BTW - if you can get a Python through the metal detector I bet you could just as easily get an AKSU-74 or MP-5K through.
Or maybe even a couple hand grenades...
If that were the case, wouldn't it be a brilliant idea to inform all the world's terrorists just how easy it is to get serious firepower on an airplane?
Morons...

ConstitutionCowboy
November 28, 2008, 05:49 PM
That thing must kick like a grasshopper!

Woody

Ramius
March 5, 2009, 11:43 AM
Friends

I have requested this thread be closed, due to the recent death of Mr. Paul Harvey.

Thanks, Ramius

Justin
March 5, 2009, 11:49 AM
This thread is three years old, folks. Let's put it to rest.

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