If you could have one more "pre-ban" feature, what would it be.


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firestar
May 15, 2003, 12:08 AM
I borrowed this idea from the thread about ARs but this is for any rifle.

If you could have one of the banned features, what would you pick? I really don't know which features are banned but I have some idea.

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firestar
May 15, 2003, 12:11 AM
It is confusing because I have a SAR-1 and it has a Hi-cap and a pistol grip so I guess if I could have one more pre-ban feature, it would be a folding stock.

Redlg155
May 15, 2003, 12:17 AM
Given the popularity of shorty stocks and faux collapsible stocks on ARs these days I would think most folks would rather have the collapsible stock option back.

Good Shooting
Red

benEzra
May 15, 2003, 12:21 AM
If/when the #@%?! ban sunsets, I am going to run, not walk, and buy the Butler Creek folding stock for my mini-14 that I've been waiting for for 10 years. (I have a Choate E2-style pistol grip stock right now, but it would be a LOT more convenient if it would fold for storage.)

gun-fucious
May 15, 2003, 12:23 AM
you really need to have a threaded barrel end
to do normal barrel work on an AR with a Compensator

Sir Galahad
May 15, 2003, 12:48 AM
A real Warsaw Pact military issue folding stock for my AK (SAR1). I already can get 30 round mags so cheap, I buy them by the dozen. It already has a pistol grip. A flash hider isn't necessary. Who needs it? Bayonet lug? Who needs it? The folding stock would be more practical for stowing the weapon.

Tamara
May 15, 2003, 12:56 AM
A flash hider isn't necessary. Who needs it?

My 7.62 Norinco underfolder, when it has the Krinkov brake installed on it, recoils less and exhibits less muzzle climb than my roommate's 5.45 "AK-74". (But it's also considered to be a flash hider)

Schuey2002
May 15, 2003, 12:59 AM
full cap mags.

H&K G36 full caps to be precise.;)

Ian
May 15, 2003, 01:13 AM
More full-cap mags. I've already got all the other features... :evil:

Sir Galahad
May 15, 2003, 01:30 AM
Yes, now a Krink brake would be good, I must admit.

natedog
May 15, 2003, 01:35 AM
Well, since the sunset won't affect California, this is just dreaming. But, here it goes: Cut and crown my Mini-14 barrel down to 14.5" (this is actually supposed to increase accuracy, because a shorter barrel means less barrel whip). A ruger factory folding stock, in stainless steel of course. And one of those black plastic pistol grips. Add a dozen ruger factory 30 rounders, a flash hider, and hey, why not a bayonet lug too :evil: ? Then I would be very happy. CQB carbines are cool!!

Tamara
May 15, 2003, 01:45 AM
Unless that flash hider was permanently silver-soldered on, that 14.5 inch tube would be a dream no matter what state you lived in w/o a tax stamp. :(

Tamara
May 15, 2003, 01:47 AM
Yes, now a Krink brake would be good, I must admit.

Of course, with it on, I can't attach my bayonet. Can't have everything, I guess. ;)

natedog
May 15, 2003, 01:48 AM
true, true, but i believe its only $5 to register a short barreled rifle (or shotgun) and a mound of paper work.

Skunkabilly
May 15, 2003, 02:22 AM
I want one of those Sure-Fire ninja foregrip lights....

Tamara
May 15, 2003, 02:53 AM
Don't tell me those are illegal in California?!?

fixer
May 15, 2003, 03:06 AM
true, true, but i believe its only $5 to register a short barreled rifle (or shotgun) and a mound of paper work.

uhhh, nope, a SBR or SBS gets a $200 tax stamp.

AOWs are $200 to make/register, but $5 to transfer

Skunkabilly
May 15, 2003, 03:49 AM
Tam, they are legal, but doesn't the vertical grip illegal on a postban AR15, because it's a foregrip?

Dr.Rob
May 15, 2003, 04:21 AM
All of them.

Why not?

If its pre-ban its pre-ban.

tiberius
May 15, 2003, 05:16 AM
Since the only "evil" rifle I own is a post-ban M1-A, I choose the bayonet lug since it is the onr item which was hacked off to make it "gentle".:)

firestar
May 15, 2003, 05:35 AM
"AOWs are $200 to make/register, but $5 to transfer"

Is that why they cost about $200 more than the same gun with a 18" bbl? I saw a AOW Mossberg 500 with a 14" bbl for $400 but I have seen many other Mossberg 500s with 18"+ bbls for about $200.

It costs $205 to get 4" shorter bbl.:rolleyes: The funny thing is, I think I am going to buy one:cool:

natedog
May 15, 2003, 11:16 AM
[Homersimpsonvoice/] Doh! [\Homersimpsonvoice]

444
May 15, 2003, 11:32 AM
Yes, an SBR requires a $200 tax stamp and a Form 1.

If I could only have one pre-ban feature, it would be the collapsable stock. This is just for looks. IMO they are much inferior to the standard fixed stock. This is a moot point for me because I have two pre-ban rifles with collapsable stocks on them already. I guess the flash suppressor might also be nice, not because I want a flash suppressor but so I can use any of my uppers on any of my lowers.

Kharn
May 15, 2003, 02:25 PM
Skunk:
Tam, they are legal, but doesn't the vertical grip illegal on a postban AR15, because it's a foregrip?

A barrel-shielding foregrip (designed to protect your hand from the hot barrel) is only illegal on postban "assault pistols" A second vertical grip on a pistol makes it an AOW (and thus exempt from the AW ban), but its perfectly ok on a rifle.

Kharn

D.W. Drang
May 16, 2003, 02:37 AM
I voted "Other."

The pre-ban feature I would like to have is NO BAN.

While I'm at it I'd like Class III to be legal in WA--and to be able to afford some...

jacketch
May 17, 2003, 09:43 AM
Most wanted pre-ban feature?

LOWER PRICES!

PrudentGT
May 17, 2003, 06:40 PM
This is the preban feature I want:


http://www.gunfactory.ch/langwaf/images/sig_551_gross.jpg

And for ~$1500 to boot!

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