Buying Gun online Tax or no TAX?


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monkeykevin
October 6, 2006, 11:00 PM
Hey, I was woundering if thier is TAX if I by a firearm online and shipped to a FFL dealer?

Right now My dealer is selling a Glock 23 for $489 NEW, so I wanted to know if I found a cheaper place online would I still have to pay the 8.99% tax in WA at all?

Currently I'm looking at AR-15/Glock23 and the AR-15 is $50-70 cheaper than the local dealer so is thier TAX if I get one shipped? and it doesn't include the fee they charge for it...$25

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hso
October 6, 2006, 11:25 PM
Depends upon your state tax laws.

If they tax internet sales even though there's no "brick and mortar" facility in the state you can bet there will be sales tax.

If they don't there may still be since the gun is received in the state and then turned over to you.

Jomax
October 7, 2006, 01:54 AM
FWIW I've been told that there's no sales tax BUT I would not bet that a persnickety by-the-book FFL wouldn't expect to collect it from you. Here in AZ, the average 8% Transaction Privilege Tax (Sales Tax) is roughly equal to $40 on a new Glock 19 as just one example.

atomchaser
October 7, 2006, 06:57 AM
Depends on the state and the dealer. Here in FL one dealer was going to charge me tax on the gun. I found a pawn shop that doesn't and they get my business. Of course, I pay the tax to the state directly as you are supposed to. ;)

gezzer
October 7, 2006, 09:36 PM
What's a sales tax?

Lone_Gunman
October 7, 2006, 10:38 PM
What's a sales tax?

Are there no sales taxes in NH?

Sales tax is definitely a more fair tax than other taxes, IMO. It encourages savings, and it spreads the cost of having a civilization more fairly.

MisterPX
October 7, 2006, 11:14 PM
There shouldn't be a sales tax on the firearm if it's coming from out of state, however, based on prices you gave, your dealer may either charge you a large transfer amount, or not do the transfer at all.

gezzer
October 8, 2006, 03:19 PM
Pay a tax on something you buy? Seems un-american to me.

No we don't do that in NH, no wonder all stores on the borders of our state do gangbuster bussiness.

Note: NH lists #49 just after Alaska for lowest taxes in the USA

Lone_Gunman
October 8, 2006, 04:06 PM
Gezzer, is there a property tax in NH?

toivo
October 8, 2006, 04:52 PM
No tax on online buys in NY unless the seller has a "physical presence" in the state, like a storefront or an office. That can be a pain--you used to be able to buy Land's End stuff tax free, but when they started selling their stuff in Sears, that became "physical presence," and they started to collect tax on online sales.

I don't see how an FFL can justfiy collecting tax on the purchase of the gun. He's not the seller. In my experience, some FFL's collect tax on the transfer fee, while others don't.

Gezzer: That New Hampshire no-sales-tax thing is pretty interesting. I remember being in a NH/VT border town where the VT side had a gas station and a bar and the NH side had a huge outlet mall. Who can compete with no sales tax? I might be thinking of White River Junction--it was a long time ago.

obm
October 8, 2006, 05:27 PM
my ffl charges tax on the transfer service, not the gun.

Monkeyleg
October 8, 2006, 05:53 PM
In Wisconsin, if you buy something from out of state, you're responsible for reporting the purchase to the Department of Revenue and paying a "use tax," which is essentially the same thing as a sales tax.

The only thing a dealer should charge taxes on is his transfer fee.

But many shops try to collect the sales tax. And I wonder how many of them are actually paying the tax, or just adding the additonal money to their bottom line.

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