Teachers--CCW column for school newspaper


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LkWinnipesaukee
October 7, 2006, 01:07 AM
Hey guys, I just finished up the 1st draft of a column for my school newspaper about teachers being able to CCW in class. It's only the first draft, and I havent credited quotes yet, and some of the paragraphs are out of order, but please bear with me.

Background-- My school is Algonquin Regional HS in Northboro. West Boylston is an ajacent town. All this is in Massachusetts, which you all know about. I will be interviewing teachers to get their opinions...

Tell me what you think, anything I should add, take out, change, etc. I'm only a 16 year old soph, so go easy :D

Thanks so much!!!:D :D


It has become increasingly obvious that schools are being targeted for attacks around the United States. That is because the security of the public schools in this country is pitiful. Recently, there was a string of four school shootings, leaving six innocent victims dead. In all cases, the suspects simply walked into the school and started shooting. I bet those teachers wished they had a way to help the children during the shootings. This begs the question: What can be done to increase the safety of students in school?

In Israel and Thailand, most teachers are armed inside of school. In fact, since the 1980's, the Israeli government has donated firearms to schools in order to protect their students. Since then, school violence has completely ceased. It's time the United States followed suit and allowed teachers and staff, who are properly trained and licensed, to carry a concealed weapon during school. That is, staff should be able to carry weapons only if it's worth defending the lives of innocent children.

The reason criminals target schools is because they are unarmed, advertised “victimization zones”. Schools provide almost no resistance to anyone simply visiting, let alone someone who is a danger to society. Does anyone wonder why we never hear of shootings at police stations?

Some schools are taking “security measures” to help “protect” students. West Boylston schools, for example, are planning to install cameras in their buildings. What this would do to stop a school shooting, I have no idea. Even Algonquin's “lock-down” procedure is flawed. Any poor student stranded in the hallway is instructed to leave the building, because they wont be let into any classroom for fear of the unseen suspect forcing his way into the class, regardless of the gaping windows fitted into each door.

I asked some classmates about the idea of allowing teachers and staff to carry a concealed weapon (CCW), and was outright disgusted with some of the immature, distasteful responses I got.
“What if a teacher got mad and shot a kid?”

Some think that a gun can be easily snatched from a staff member. It is possible, but in order for someone to do this they would have to have knowledge of where the gun is located, the power to see through clothes, and the ability to pull a small object out of a holster from the inside of somebody else's waistband. Concealed means just that- concealed. No one would know who is carrying. And why is it that police officers carry openly and don't have a problem?

There have been cases where firearms have indeed saved lives in US schools. In 1997 for example, a Missouri student brought a rifle to school and began shooting kids. The vice principal ran to his car and brought his own handgun into the school to hold the suspect until police arrived. Although horribly illegal by modern laws, he did the right thing by saving lives that would otherwise be lost.

Of course, I'm not fooling anyone. I don't actually expect this to happen. Teachers and staff will forever be stripped of their second amendment rights from 7:20-1:45. They will never be allowed to defend themselves or their children. We will all simply continue to attend school, completely vulnerable to whoever wishes to terrorize a building full of children.

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KarlG
October 7, 2006, 02:53 AM
Could add that security measures such as cameras or alarm buttons are reactive while putting guns in the posession of the teaches and staff would be proactive. By this I mean that you could watch a shooting happen and have to call th epolice and wait 20 to 45 minutes for a response vs. immediately stopping the threat.

My memory is fuzzy, but there was a shooting at a law school in VA, I believe, where students stopped the shooter with their gun(s). This could be used as a good example of arming people in schools. It was reported in the news that students wrestled the shooter to the ground.

JimmyN
October 7, 2006, 09:46 AM
“What if a teacher got mad and shot a kid?”

That seems to be a common argument among the anti's, but in reality any teacher prone to that behaviour could certainly do it now. There is nothing to stop them. At least if CCW was allowed there would be someone there to respond to this "teacher gone mad".

Roadkill
October 7, 2006, 10:06 AM
Appreciate the effort but its not going to happen. I've worked in a large high school ten years. There are 150 teachers, 120 are FFFLs (Fat Fifty Female Liberals) and they would really die before they would consider a gun in the building. There are about five males who are avid hunters, I loaded a box of 38sp for the principal last week. This is in Alabama. Personally I would not trust having a gun on me with all the idiot students at school anyway. The personal liability is way beyond the risk. I'd love to see their photo on a milk carton. Some could be a poster child for pro choice.

LkWinnipesaukee
October 7, 2006, 03:51 PM
Karl, took your suggestion, thanks :)

I sent it to the paper to be edited. We'll see how it goes...

espanola
October 7, 2006, 09:10 PM
Lake Winnie, you may be confusing a shooting being stopped in Missouri with the shooting in Pearl, Mississippi...(then again, maybe not).
Here's a link about the shooting in Pearl being stopped. http://www.davekopel.com/2A/OthWr/principal&gun.htm

In a former life, I was a teacher for 14 years and a high school principal for 11 (I understand your comments, Roadkill!) and I can tell you it'll never happen that teachers will be allowed either by law or school board policy to legally carry.
Here's why...school board liability. If a school allowed it and a teacher/staff member shot someone accidentally, or heaven forbid, shot someone other than an armed intruder on purpose, or FAILED to shoot an armed intruder, they will get the stew sued out of 'em. They can't win regardless of what they do.

Something else that'll you'll never ever hear a current teacher admit--that some teachers ARE carrying...regardless of law or policy.

LkWinnipesaukee
October 7, 2006, 09:59 PM
^^ You're right, my mistake. Thanks for correcting.


Yes, I realize that it will never happen. Which is why I wrote that bit in the last paragraph.

Thanks guys

unixguy
October 8, 2006, 01:53 AM
I thought it was pretty good, although you hit upon one of my pet peeves-- improper use of the phrase "begs the question".

I think this explanation at wikipedia explains it better than I can.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

I don't think it will detract from your message too much-- I think that common usage seems to be trending to use it the same that you did, so most people will probably understand you just fine.

In short, if someone tells you that you're begging the question then it's a bad thing.

I don't mean for this to be negative. Good for you for writing the article!

Huddog
October 8, 2006, 01:56 AM
I saw on some news show last week after the PA incident that a legislator in Wisconsin intends to introduce legislation to allow weapons in school. Available only to properly trained personell and under lock and key. I agree it won't happen but at least he is trying.

LkWinnipesaukee
October 8, 2006, 02:04 AM
ade a few changes, mostly grammar. What can I say about that quote?? Thats pretty much the only response i got...


It has become increasingly obvious that schools are falling victim to violent attacks around the United States. That is because the security of the public schools in this country is pitiful. Recently, there was a string of four school shootings, leaving six innocent victims dead. In all cases, the suspects simply walked into the school and started shooting. I bet those teachers wished they had a way to help the children during the shootings.

In Israel and Thailand, most teachers are armed inside of school. In fact, since the 1980's, the Israeli government has donated firearms to schools in order to protect their students. Since then, school violence has completely ceased. It's time the United States followed suit and allowed teachers and staff, who are properly trained and licensed, to carry a concealed weapon at school. However, staff should only be able to carry weapons if it's worth defending the lives of innocent children.

The reason criminals target schools is because they are unarmed, advertised “victimization zones”. Schools provide almost no resistance to anyone simply visiting, let alone someone who has posed a danger to society. Does anyone wonder why we never hear of shootings at police stations? There are none, simply because they have the means to defend themselves if a violent situation occurs.

Some schools are taking “security measures” to help “protect” students. West Boylston schools, for example, are planning to install cameras in their buildings. What this would do to stop a school shooting, I have no idea. Even Algonquin's “lock-down” procedure is flawed. Any poor student stranded in the hallway is instructed to leave the building, due to the fact that they wont be let into any classroom for fear of the lurking suspect forcing his way into the class, regardless of the gaping windows fitted into each door.

Allowing teachers to have weapons in school is proactive, whereas installing an alarm or cameras is reactive. It would take several minutes for police to respond to a situation triggered by an alarm. However, armed teachers can end the violence immediately.

I asked some classmates about the idea of allowing teachers and staff to carry a concealed weapon, and was outright disgusted with some of the immature, distasteful responses I received.

“What if a teacher got mad and shot a kid?”

Some think that a gun can be easily snatched from a staff member. While plausible, in order for someone to do this they would to be aware of a few specific details. First, they would have to have knowledge of where the gun is located. Then, they would need the power to see through clothes. And lastly, they must posses the ability to pull a small object out of a holster from the inside of somebody else's waistband. Concealed means just that: concealed. No one would know who is carrying a weapon. And why is it that police officers carry openly and don't have a problem with people taking their guns?

There have been cases where firearms have indeed saved lives in US schools. In 1997, a Missouri student brought a rifle to school and began shooting kids. The vice principal ran to his car and brought his own handgun into the school to hold the suspect until police arrived. Although horribly illegal by modern laws, he did the right thing. He helped save lives that may have otherwise been lost.

Don’t get me wrong, I don't actually expect this to happen. Teachers and staff will forever be stripped of their second amendment rights from 7:20-1:45 day in and day out. They will never be allowed to defend themselves or their students. We will all simply continue to attend school, completely vulnerable to whoever wishes to terrorize a building full of children.

KarlG
October 8, 2006, 04:35 AM
Although I agree with Roadkill's comment that it will never happen, I do not believe that is the point. I believe that stimulating conversation on the subject is a good thing.

cassandrasdaddy
October 8, 2006, 09:44 AM
for someone of any age

scooterthegreat
October 8, 2006, 10:48 AM
I saw on some news show last week after the PA incident that a legislator in Wisconsin intends to introduce legislation to allow weapons in school. Available only to properly trained personell and under lock and key. I agree it won't happen but at least he is trying.

Here is a bit of what has been happening in WI as a result of the student shooting his principal in Sauk County.

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/index.php?ntid=102133&ntpid=1

Even Mark Green, who is running for Govenor and supports concealed carry for our citizens, agrees that guns in schools is a bad idea.

http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=101850&ntpid=4

WI doesn't even allow for concealed carry (yet). I am quite taken back that allowing teachers and other school employees to carry was even brought up.

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