Some of the other Spartans are tempting, for one reason or another, but not the singles.
October 17, 2006, 08:05 PM
Interesting about the model 100. Sorry to hear it wasnt what you expected.
As for the NEF, the only thing I dont like is that it is a hammer gun. Maybe someday someone will figure out how to make a single break open hammerless gun for a decent price. To my knowledge the BT-99 is the only one out there ,unfortunately it's overpriced IMO.
October 17, 2006, 10:58 PM
BT-99 is a heavy-use competition gun, Spartan is a cheap truck gun. There's just no comparison between the two, except that you can put the same shells in them.
I have a 20-year-old BT-99 with hundreds of thousands of rounds through it. I use it regularly. It doesn't look new, but the birds think it is.
All I can say is, trust me, they're not overpriced. No one I've spoken with who owns one has ever thought so. It's by far the least expensive gun in its class.
Hammerless singles are good for one thing and one thing only: American Trap.
For a truck gun, I like the hammer. Simple and safe.
October 17, 2006, 11:02 PM
Armed.....I know about the BT99......still overpriced for a single IMO
October 19, 2006, 09:13 PM
I don't know what there is not to like in a hammer on a single. Reliable, safe and easy to use. Break open action, insert shell, close action, pull back trigger, aim & shoot. Doesn't get any more simple or easier than that. :banghead:
October 21, 2006, 10:59 AM
To each his own I guess. I wouldnt give .5 for any hammer gun and that includes rifles.
October 21, 2006, 06:03 PM
Why would they not blue the end of the barrel?
October 22, 2006, 10:50 AM
I bought an SPR 100 two months ago and its doing just fine. The fit and finish are good and when I do my part those clay birds get hit hard. Lately though my 15 year old son has taken over this gun. Its scaled right for him so he can concentrate on the fundamentals rather than managing a heavy gun.
Sure, there are anecdotal stories about there about one looking like a blacksmith built it. I consider them all exceptions rather than the rule.
The moral of the story? If you're after an entry-level single, this is a hard deal to beat.
October 22, 2006, 02:39 PM
my 15 year old son has taken over this gun. Its scaled right for him
That's a good point. A 6.5 lb. trap gun may seem really strange to a full-sized adult male, but perfect for someone a tad smaller. I've tried to coach kids who simply didn't have the weight or muscle to counterbalance a heavier gun, so they leaned back to compensate. That, of course, prevented them from hitting anything but straightaways.
So a 6.5 lb. trap gun makes sense for some people.
October 22, 2006, 02:44 PM
I wouldnt give .5 for any hammer gun
BT99......still overpriced for a single
Hell Ed, sounds like you need to start a shotgun company.:)
If you really figure you can produce a legitimate BT competitor for well under a grand, I want to invest. It's hard to even FIND a new BT around here, most of the time, because they get snapped up. If you can deliver the same thing or better for 1/2 to 2/3 the price, and make a decent profit, I think you'd dominate a good-sized market niche.
October 23, 2006, 10:45 PM
I BOUGHT MY 13 YO SON AN SPR100 SPORTING. IT WAS A LITTLE TIGHT
AT FIRST , BUT I POLISHED THE FRONT OF THE RECEIVER AND SIDE OF THE BREACH AND AFTER BEING PROPERLY LUBED AND SHOT 100 ROUNDS IT CLOSES NICE. SHOOTS A NICE PATTERN. HAS A NICE WIDE RIB.GREAT TRAP STARTER GUN
BUT USE LIGHT LOADS CAUSE ITS LIGHT WEIGHT MAKES IT KICK.
BUY IT FROM GALLERY OF GUNS AND GET LIFETIME WARRANTY. CAN'T BEAT IT FOR THE MONEY.
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