Deputy shoots deputy in training


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sgphoto
October 8, 2006, 10:17 AM
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061008/COUNTY09/610080368

Another example of carelessness. Hope the deputy doing the shooting is removed as a "training officer".

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Bruce333
October 8, 2006, 10:34 AM
This is what happens when you violate one (or more) of the four rules. If this is their regular training method (unloaded guns) this was going to happen sooner or later.

Sounds like they need to invest in some "training (http://www.letargets.com/html/training.html)" guns, instead of using real ones.

knuckles
October 8, 2006, 10:40 AM
The sheriff said the bullet hit her in the badge and ricocheted off her bullet-resistant vest. It went through her shoulder and also hit her hand

How does that happen? How did it go through her shoulder and hit her hand?

Bruce333
October 8, 2006, 10:46 AM
How did it go through her shoulder and hit her hand?IMO Most likely jacket fragments hit her hand, not the whole bullet. Says it hit her badge, so probably started breaking up. (the media is not the most accurate source of information http://thehighroad.org/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)

knuckles
October 8, 2006, 10:59 AM
Where is cbsbyte to talk about how in the NE, officers who aren't inbred would never allow something like this to happen?

Reference (1 of many):
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=2738641&postcount=29

El Tejon
October 8, 2006, 12:01 PM
Where's the quote from the Brady Bunch telling us how "highly trained" the police are?:rolleyes: :D

I again suggest a forum to catalog police negligent discharges. Whenever we hear the media or Brady Bunch talk about "police training" we e-mail this list out--repeatedly.:D

Steve in PA
October 8, 2006, 01:36 PM
Wow, just wow.:eek:

Aguila Blanca
October 8, 2006, 01:48 PM
While accidents of this nature are "very rare," Headley said, they are not totally unexpected.

"Firearms, they're a tool of our trade. It's something we have to have," he said. "Accidents happen. It's very unfortunate, but I wouldn't say this is surprising. Accidents are going to happen from time to time."
Do I detect a hint of double standards here? Methinks if a civilian had "accidently" shot a colleague the sheriff's department would be falling all over themselves to charge him/her with something. How likely is it that, even in Tennessee, they would just throw up their hands and say "accidents happen"?

Steve in PA
October 8, 2006, 04:39 PM
The police wouldn't decide who gets charged and who doesn't get charged, it would be the DA's office.

plexreticle
October 8, 2006, 04:45 PM
Physical fitness training will save your life and is easily as important at firearms training. Looks like these two need to refresh on both.

otasan
October 8, 2006, 07:04 PM
. . . should have guns" :banghead:

Double Naught Spy
October 8, 2006, 07:05 PM
This is what happens when you violate one (or more) of the four rules. If this is their regular training method (unloaded guns) this was going to happen sooner or later.

1 All guns are always loaded
2 Never point at anything you don't intend to destroy
3 Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire
4 Know your target, backstop, and beyond.

Let's see, short of a true mechanical accidental discharge, the shooting of another human being requires at least TWO rules be broken. The third rule doesn't apply since the trainer intended to go through the motions of pulling the trigger. The fourth doesn't apply since the gun was pointed at the intended dry fire target. The two broken rules are NOT treating the guns as loaded, since they were, and pointing the gun at something (the other deputy) he didn't intend to destroy.

"Accidents happen. It's very unfortunate, but I wouldn't say this is surprising. Accidents are going to happen from time to time."
With this attitude, they will continue to happen. What is being claimed is a rationalization to downplay the incident like it could not have been prevented and is just one of those things, but when a drunk driver accidently runs over a cop due to a comparable lapse of cognition and without intent of harm, they get pretty mad and talk about all sorts of criminal charges. The don't consider it an accident per se, even though the drunk calls it that.

Both have had "excellent" records, Headley said.
One was new with little record. The other now has a major screwup on his record where he shot and wounded another cop in a non life threatening situation where no loaded gun should have been.

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