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David904
October 8, 2006, 03:37 PM
I went and purchased 200 rounds of .45 ammo today from WalMart and the guy behind the counter asked me for my ID. I figured, "no big deal... I'm just getting carded like when I buy anything alcohol related." But then I got to thinking that I've never had to do this before. I mentioned this to the guy behind the counter and he stated that he was one of the bad guys who swiped cards whenever the machine asks for them. He then stated that it was solely for age checking purposes though.

For some reason, this doesn't sit well with me. If I go to the package store and they want to check my age, they look at my birthdate on my ID, do some simple math and then return the card with a thank you.

Now this just doesn't sit too well with me. I feel a little like something got pulled over on me. Am I being silly here?:scrutiny:

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erict
October 8, 2006, 03:43 PM
I joke with my wife about it. It appears to me that they add your lisence # in the CPU there.

I tell her it's so they can track me on their "bad people" list. Who knows, maybe they are???

NailGun
October 8, 2006, 03:46 PM
Yup...Uncle Sam (Walton) is keeping his eye on you.....:mad:

Lou629
October 8, 2006, 03:47 PM
I had a similar situation this past week. I drove over to Pa. to go shooting with a long time buddy, and while there i needed to go to the local Wally-world for more ammo. The girl asked for my drivers license after i had swiped the visa card thru the machine. I asked her if i didn't look over 21 to her. I'm 52, but i don't look a day over ( or UNDER ) 45 :) Anyway, she told me that her wanting the ID was to compare signatures with the license and the visa receipt. According to her, their computers ask for these ID checks randomly, and the clerk has no choice. No big deal to me in any event, just my .02 on the recent experience.

MachIVshooter
October 8, 2006, 03:52 PM
Wally world will check ID on any age restricted item. Spray paint, R-rated films-and ammo, since you have to be 18 or 21, depending on type and intended use. This is Federal law.

Lou629
October 8, 2006, 04:17 PM
This is Federal law. ??

MachIV - This is news to me. Apparently it would be news to the wal-mart clerk i dealt with in PA too because my buddy, seperately buying the same ammo as i was, didn't get asked for his ID at all, but i did. It's the only reason i even remembered the incident when this thread got started here this afternoon. I have bought loads of ammo at other wally stores at other times and locations and never got the ID request before this past week. Go figure.

RNB65
October 8, 2006, 05:29 PM
Wal Mart policy is to *always* check ID's for ammo sales since handgun ammo can't be sold to anyone under 21. However, most clerks ignore the ID check if the buyer is clearly old enough. Wally World has been my primary ammo supplier for years and I think I've been asked to show an ID once.

Justin
October 8, 2006, 05:36 PM
Boy, I just can't get enough discussions about Wal*Mart.

Glockfan.45
October 8, 2006, 05:43 PM
As many people on here who claim to hate Wal-Mart I am suprised how many of them continue shopping there :rolleyes: . Wa-Mart is not perfect but I buy most of my ammo there. Why you ask, Cost I cannot buy 100 rounds of .45auto at any gun store for any where near the price it sells for at W-M.
Wal-Mart is not for, or against guns just profits. They have to cover their butts just like any other store. The ATF cracks down on them just as hard.

Chipperman
October 8, 2006, 05:51 PM
Just show them the ID still inside the wallet. They can't swipe it that way.

Valkman
October 8, 2006, 05:54 PM
Wally world will check ID on any age restricted item. Spray paint, R-rated films-and ammo, since you have to be 18 or 21, depending on type and intended use. This is Federal law.

I love these "this is the way it is" statements. Never been carded at WM for ammo - never. Never been asked what it's for. Federal law. :p

spooney
October 8, 2006, 05:57 PM
We do this about every other month...OMG WAL-MART IS TAKING OVER THE WORLD BY TAKING OUR ID NUMBERS AND THEN TAKING GUNS OUT OF THEIR STORES!!!!1111!!!

kludge
October 8, 2006, 05:58 PM
Just show them the ID still inside the wallet. They can't swipe it that way.

...yet.

>SHOCK<^>WAVE<
October 8, 2006, 06:11 PM
If those anti-gun A-holes didn't sue them in the first place they probably
wouldn't be so vigilant about checking ID's in the first place. There probably one
of the most gun friendly corporations there is outside of the gun industry itself.

And you all damn well know they'd be selling those Norinco M-14's if they only could.

Lupinus
October 8, 2006, 07:19 PM
This is Federal law.
Ahem

It is not federal law to check ID. It is agianst the law sell to someone under age, there is no law period that says you have to check ID and certianly no law that says you have to check if the person is clearly over the required age.

Barbara
October 8, 2006, 07:50 PM
I bought 540 rounds of ammunition at Wal*Mart this morning and didn't get asked for ID. :D

entropy
October 8, 2006, 09:22 PM
I buy a lot of ammo there, but not all of mine. Course, the 10% discount helps.....:)


And you all damn well know they'd be selling those Norinco M-14's if they only could.

NOW YOU DID IT, SHOCK WAVE! :what: Got me thinkin....Hmmm 10 % of how much would they go out at....? :D Too bad they are doing away with layaway.

22-rimfire
October 8, 2006, 09:33 PM
If I use a credit card, I frequently get asked to provide my drivers license regardless of whether or not it is ammunition or milk (not always). I believe it is a price thing. I also believe it is their rule on certain items. Do you question the request if you buy beer or tobacco products?

Handgun Midas
October 8, 2006, 09:38 PM
I buy the occasional box of 45's at Wallmart, and while I am usually carded, I have never removed my license from its see-through pocket and have never been asked to do so.

I have, however, bought ammo at 2am and that's pretty frickin' cool.

MachIVshooter
October 8, 2006, 09:56 PM
MachIV - This is news to me. Apparently it would be news to the wal-mart clerk i dealt with in PA too because my buddy, seperately buying the same ammo as i was, didn't get asked for his ID at all, but i did. It's the only reason i even remembered the incident when this thread got started here this afternoon. I have bought loads of ammo at other wally stores at other times and locations and never got the ID request before this past week. Go figure.

Federal law requires that you be 18 to buy long guns or ammunition and 21 to buy handguns or ammunition suitable only for handguns. When people under 21 buy handgun ammunition for use in a long gun, the sale is at the discretion of the salesperson.

No, they are not required to ID you. But with the penalties they face for selling to underage persons, one should not be surprised that they do.

TexasRifleman
October 8, 2006, 09:59 PM
No, they are not required to ID you. But with the penalties they face for selling to underage persons, one should not be surprised that they do.

I agree with you, but that whole swiping thing is worrisome to most people, there seems to be the possibility of record keeping going on without the buyers consent by the swiping.

Who knows what information is recorded in Wal Marts system at that time.

GregGry
October 8, 2006, 10:06 PM
I never get carded at the local walmart..

FTF
October 8, 2006, 10:09 PM
I don't care if they card me or not. Just like when I buy booze, getting carded is almost a compliment.

And yes, this particular discussion on wal-marts is geting old :D

MachIVshooter
October 8, 2006, 10:15 PM
I agree with you, but that whole swiping thing is worrisome to most people, there seems to be the possibility of record keeping going on without the buyers consent by the swiping.

I've never had that happen. They just look at the ID and punch in DOB.

joab
October 8, 2006, 10:19 PM
My license is worthless for swiping.
I intentioanally store them next to strong magnets to thwart Big Brother all's evil mind control scheme.

Viva la Target !!

TexasRifleman
October 8, 2006, 10:21 PM
I've never had that happen. They just look at the ID and punch in DOB.

They swiped my DL at a Wal Mart recently for the first time, up til then it had been what you describe.

The explanation was the swipe was only used to verify the ID, since I guess it's harder to fake the embedded magnetic strip, and that makes sense.

I guess I just worry about the ease of record keeping if their corporate decided to start.

22-rimfire
October 8, 2006, 10:45 PM
If you shop at Walmart and use a credit card, I bet you would be amazed at the level of detail they could provide information if it ever is their desire or need to look at or analyze your shopping habits.

Bruce333
October 8, 2006, 10:54 PM
I was wondering what you meant by swiping, now I understand. They'd have a hard time with the NC license, it doesn't have a magnetic strip on it. It's some kind of funky optical thing. But then I'm old enough that the just look at me and hit the button on the key pad to bypass the age prompt...

Rokman
October 8, 2006, 11:05 PM
I have bought a ton of ammo at my local Wal Marts and have never been carded.:) I usually have to wait for a while till someone shows up with a key, but thats the price I pay to get ammo that is still somewhat reasonably priced.

Glockfan.45
October 9, 2006, 02:59 AM
I always get carded at W-W. But then I get carded at the gun shop, range, and every other place that sells ammo. Stupid FOID cards.

scout26
October 9, 2006, 03:01 AM
Here in Illinois, they register just prompts them to "Check FOID Card". I just have my 12 year old daughter show them hers. They hit the "Yes" and everybody is happy. I've only had one WW Clerk, stop and say "I need to you see yours sir, she's not eighteen."

Gander Mountain on the other hand, their clerks know to ask "Pistol or Rifle" if someone is in the 18-21 range after they check the FOID card. Not that they done it to me, but people in line ahead of me.

Now, the fact that I have to show my FOID to buy just plastic wads and lead shot, because they are considered by the Peoples Democratic Republic of Illinois to be "ammuntion and/or ammuntion components", is just stupid, but not the fault of Gander Mountain.

yongxingfreesty
October 9, 2006, 03:21 AM
they have always asked me, maybe because they think im a young punk ass teenager. i just show it to them and leave happy.

Trebor
October 9, 2006, 06:29 AM
Boy, I just can't get enough discussions about Wal*Mart.

Be glad you aren't a mod over at Glock Talk then. I swear every third thread there is about Wal Mart. Some members even tried to start a Wal Mart sub forum, but Eric wouldn't go for it.

Btw, not trying to start a forum war. It just seems that Wal Mart does come up alot on gun boards, especially GT.

EddieCoyle
October 9, 2006, 08:50 AM
It just seems that Wal Mart does come up alot on gun boards, especially GT.

No kidding. Maybe we should just sticky the following statement:

Walmart requires salespeople to verify the age of anyone buying ammo. You must be 18 to buy ammo typically used in long guns, 21 for handgun ammo. Sometimes they ask if the ammo is for a handgun or rifle so they know what age to check for.

These threads always crack me up. My favorite posts are from the tin-foil hat people that think Walmart is tracking they're every movement so they can sell the info to .gov to make it easier to find you when they want to implant the tracking chip. The "handgun or rifle" question seems to particularly upset this crowd.

I also like the "They never card me" posts. If you're grey-haired, use a walker, or stroll around with the top of your Depends visible above your baggy pants, then it's not going to take a rocket scientist to deduce that you're north of 21. I'm 43 and look it. When the salesperson is experienced, or has a glimmer of intelligence in his/her eyes, they'll skip right past the ID question and sell me the ammo. These are the people that have a future outside of Walmart. (That's when I go to a store out of state. In Mass, we need an FID or gun license to buy ammo).

Sometimes I get carded because the register asks the clerk to do it. If the register asked the same clerk to do the Chicken Dance before selling me the ammo, they'd do that too. Unless they're very young, these people have reached their professional ceiling as a clerk at Walmart. If fate is kind to them, they'll look good in a blue vest.

I once met a Walmart store manager that told me about a Walmart store somewhere that got dinged for selling ammo to a minor, and they've since made it their policy to check ID. Nobody should be offended. They're not being nosy, they're just covering their corporate butt.

mp510
October 9, 2006, 11:04 AM
I have never had an ID swiped for anything at Wal-Mart. However, the clerks do look close, because the machine asks them to type in the DOB, so they are usually looking between the card, and their POS (Point of Sale) terminal. Same at any other store. Sports Authority used to maintain a written log with name, address, license number, item and signature certification. The log was kept on the counter, and used for ammo, air guns, CO2, BB's, Pellets, Knives, Archery gear...Similar to below:
John Smith 7/4/76 123 Main Street Anytown, CT DL:CT 123456789 500 RDS .22LR
Now, you just have to sign the credit card machine, to certify you are legal after giving them your ID.

AirForceShooter
October 9, 2006, 12:27 PM
I have a new thing.
If any store asks for my D/L I give them my CCW.
Makes life interesting.
It's gov. issued and it has my picture on it.
What else do you need?

AFS

got cope?
October 9, 2006, 03:32 PM
If any store asks for my D/L I give them my CCW.

+1

A bartender once laughed at me and threw my ID at me implying he thought it was fake. (I had since shave my face and head). I wasnt laughing. I pulled my CCW license out and asked him if he thought it was fake. I got my beer.

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