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P95Carry
January 5, 2003, 02:51 AM
I asked this on my own board but had few replies.

Here in PA ..... I have wondered about numbers .... pure interest. I called in to Sheriff's office and asked ... no large scale stat's but . gathered that last two months, the uptake on applications was over 100/month. If that was translated into a year . and post 9/11 at that, then for my county (pop 50,000 only), that'd mean 1,000 and more maybe, new ones.

I find that encouraging ....... but am interested to see this on a broader basis. Anyone have approx figures for their county? Or can you get them. I'd like to get some sorta assessment nation wide if possible.

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Schuey2002
January 5, 2003, 03:03 AM
P95Carry, have you checked out www.packing.org ??:)

sixgun_symphony
January 5, 2003, 03:06 AM
I have not checked how many CCW's have been issued, but I do know that the local gunshops did not get a signifigant increase in business after 911.

I think its because people expect the Islamic terrorists to use time bombs or other such means of attack where being armed is no defense.

lilbiggun
January 5, 2003, 06:48 AM
I havent asked about specific numbers either but when I took my class (12/01) my instuctor was swamped. I tried to take the class about a week after 9/11 and he finally found me a spot in Dec. He usually does 2 classes a month and had to start doing 3 and still had a waiting list (he couldnt do 4/month, gotta have time for the family). I was just in his shop 2 days ago and its starting to slow down but not much.

Yuck Mouth
January 5, 2003, 06:53 AM
There are probably over 600,00 concealed carry license holders in Pennsylvania by now. There is a link to a .pdf file in the article I'm linking too from last November that says there were 597,000 license holders as of 2001 from State Police statistics. I believe we have the more CCW license holders that any other state which I find suprising I always thought Texas or Florida had more. Texas has about 220,000 and Florida has about 300,000+.
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P95Carry
January 5, 2003, 12:17 PM
P95Carry, have you checked out www.packing.org ?? Thx Scuey .. I should have mentioned that I did in fact check there some time ago .. but as to finding any statistics ... came up with zilch!

Yuck ... thx for those figures and link. I did have the impression PA was pretty well up on the list for CCW numbers . but hey 600,000 or so!! Damn, that is incredible. And IIRC, with a state polulation of - what is it now? ........ was 9 mil .. let's say 10 anyways .. that is a staggering 6%. Impressive!

In my area, concealment is I think well achieved, because I have yet to see many guys ''obviously'' packing ...... seems we have it down to a fairly fine art. Crime figures also reflect the overall status quo .. they are pretty low overall.

SkunkApe
January 5, 2003, 12:41 PM
Here's Michigan's annual report:


http://www.michigan.gov/documents/CCWAnnualreportstats_45253_7.pdf

P95Carry
January 5, 2003, 12:49 PM
Hmm .. 53,000 issued for Michigan ......... seems quite a low figure.

SkunkApe
January 5, 2003, 12:56 PM
The 53,000 figure is for the one-year period immediately following the law going into effect on July 1, 2001. Yep, we just got our shall-issue then.

P95Carry
January 5, 2003, 02:43 PM
The 53,000 figure is for the one-year period immediately following the law going into effect on July 1, 2001. Yep, we just got our shall-issue then. Aha .... that makes a difference ..... in which case not bad at all ... and I guess growing as we speak.:)

BuckeyePPC
January 5, 2003, 03:30 PM
I believe part of the reason for the lower Texas numbers is the cost and time for the class and the cost for the permit. I paid around $250 for both and waited 2 months before my permit came in. And the class was 10 hours long. Here in AZ I paid $150 for the class and permit and waited 2 weeks. And the class was 16 hours long. I imagine if getting a permit was as easy as it is in PA ( not a complaint but it is easy ), a whole lot more people would get their permit.

Monkeyleg
January 5, 2003, 05:07 PM
The 600,000 figure for PA may be the number of permits they have issued since they started keeping track, rather than the number outstanding.

I had to try to get info like this a little over a year ago, and contacted as many state agencies as possible. Here's what I got back:

Idaho: 35,608
Arizona: 62,590
Alaska: ~16,000
Florida: 263,171 (increased since then, of course)
Indiana: ~320,000 (I think they're counting all issued, not all outstanding)
Kentucky: 62,000
Louisiana: 14,590 issued from 1996 to 2001
North Dakota: 5295 issued in 2000
Maine: 2375 issued in 2000
Texas: 217,000 (increased since)
West Virginia: 9284 (issued over what period?)
Virginia: 156,788

I don't know why it's so hard to get accurate numbers. :rolleyes:

suvdrvr
January 5, 2003, 08:31 PM
I believe there was an overall increase in gun sales and concealed weapons permits following 9-11, not because people expected the enemy to come down their street, but that the government might move to restrict our rights and freedoms making owning a firearm more difficult and self-protection from our domestic bg's harder.

P95Carry
January 5, 2003, 08:38 PM
Monkeyleg . many thx for that info ... it all helps and a better picture is emerging. Could well be that PA is very high on the list or even the top figure.

Spackler
January 5, 2003, 08:55 PM
I recall a newspaper article about CCW in PA that gave a stat, but I can't remember what the figure was. There has to be a way to find out, though. I'll do a little digging and see what I can find out.

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