Concealed Carry Oppression Continues in CA


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shooterx10
May 15, 2003, 12:24 PM
GunNewsDaily.com


Concealed Carry Oppression Continues in CA

William Lolli

Gun News Daily Contributing Editor

May 8, 2003

I have a concealed carry permit from the state of Florida. I live in California. Whenever I fly home to visit my mother in Florida I am assured that the state of Florida concurs with me in law that I am a citizen that possesses the natural right to defend self and others from an aggressor that threatens my life or the lives of others.

This concurrence of law also now extends to the great states of Pennsylvania and Kentucky, as the people of these states agrees in law with the people of Florida that citizens possess a natural right to self-defense. CCW holders in all three states can now conduct their personal affairs in the knowledge that they can protect themselves with a firearm so long as they adhere to common sense principles as set in law.

Not so here in California.

Here in California there are the free and the oppressed. The free are the minority elites that have set aside for themselves rights and privileges meant for all people to enjoy. They are the ones who control and define the parameters of the freedoms and rights dispensed to the general citizenry.

Worse still, these elites have prostituted rights that were meant for the security of a free state as a means of acquiring personal and political power through the perpetuation of the perception that they and their ilk are needed to promote the peace of society.

Through years of persuasive lies about guns, attacks and distortions of gun owners, a passion to bring the American society under a benevolently imposed collectivism, and state gun-laws that are nearly impossible to interpret congruously with the US Constitution; the liberal elites in California have firmly ensconced into law multiple layers of legal tyranny.

These layers of law and regulations are affixed and reinforced by interest groups that cater to the support of each other’s fundamental quest for political dominance and power.

When examined as a composite whole, these forces seem impossible to overcome, but they are not. However, the public political-will necessary to reverse the damage takes as much of a broad based, multi-layered response-methodology as it has taken to accomplish the damage.

Elected officials in local and state governmental levels, as well as bureaucratic positions would have to have an understanding and concurrent support of the 2nd Amendment. Our courts would have to have judges that concur with the Emerson ruling, and shape the law enforcement community to enforce the laws based upon the truthful interpretations of self-defense. Educational institutions would have to be populated by informed, non-prejudiced instructors. The media would have to yield to a shift away from socialism and toward a more constitutional concept of individual freedom and liberty.

These goals are not impossible. But it is unlikely they would occur in times of relative peace and prosperity. Tyranny’s roots grow strongest in times of plenty.

September 11 proved that America’s liberal sympathies can be turned on their ear when danger strikes at the heart of America. The manifested proof takes the form of increased church attendance, increased gun sales, applications for concealed permits at an all time high, and a more vigilant yet friendlier, kinder nation.

This is not a call for more violence, as some will claim; rather it is a call for more common sense, and a call for those who desire freedom to step forward to advance the course of positive change.

I encourage more Californians to apply for concealed carry permits. :fire:

Sure, you will get turned down. :cuss: Do not apply for your permit with the expectation of success. Rather apply for your permit with the expectation of sending a message to those in charge.

Like the New Testament widow who constantly appealed to the corrupt judge for relief, so too shall we not be ignored if we are persistent; and eventually, justice—grudgingly-- shall be done by a reluctant government.

Here is the link. (http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/Lolli/wl51.html)

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Jim March
May 15, 2003, 06:19 PM
You bet y'all should apply. Definately. And yes, 98% will get denied.

But you won't be just sending a message. You'll be gaining standing.

Dammit, I've got the lawyers lined up, I've got the *funding* nailed, I need plaintiffs.

:cuss:

Standing Wolf
May 15, 2003, 09:24 PM
...I've got the lawyers lined up, I've got the *funding* nailed, I need plaintiffs.

If I were still a subject of the People's Republic of California, I'd apply for a concealed firearms permit and become one of your plaintiffs. I salute your courage and tenacity, and hope you'll win.

tyme
May 15, 2003, 10:21 PM
I have a concealed carry permit from the state of Florida. I live in California. Whenever I fly home to visit my mother in Florida I am assured that the state of Florida concurs with me in law that I am a citizen that possesses the natural right to defend self and others from an aggressor that threatens my life or the lives of others.
Yet another article I stop reading after the first paragraph. The author seems to think that a CCW system is a recognition of a natural right. What a joke. It's an artificially constructed privilege system, like driving on public roads.

Glock Glockler
May 15, 2003, 10:39 PM
Judges are appointed by the legislature, which is in turn elected by the people.

Ultimately, if you want to be victorious, you will have to have the people on your side. Go and spread the good word of RKBA and freedom, speak to as many fense sitters as possible and fight the antis whenever and where ever possible.

Shaggy
May 16, 2003, 12:48 AM
Heck, here in Ohio there is nothing to apply for. They just out right infringe the right to bear arms even though it's clear in the state constitution. They say you can open carry.....yeah right. You walk down main street anywhere in Ohio with a gun strapped to your belt and you are getting arrested for something. Disturbing the peace, causing a panic.....whatever.

I just read something the other day that in some counties in CA they issue lots of CCW permits. Probably the more conservative counties....I guess there must be some in a state that big. They gave an example like LA....issued 25 permits or something. Probably to movie stars and politicians. Then in another county the sheriff had issued 3,600 or something like that. Heck, at least if your in the right spot you got a shot. I got no shot in Ohio. I can't even apply to get denied.

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