[Kestrel]

I'm toying with the idea of getting a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. If I remember correctly, I thought I had read somewhere that .35 Rem is not really much more effective than .30-30. Is this true?

Does .35 Rem have any advantage over the .30-30?

Is the .35 popular enough to not have to worry about availability? Is it waning?

Thanks.

[Essex County]

You bet it's practical. It's long been a favorite with New England deer and bear hunters. Weather it's chambered in an old Remington pump or autoloader, or a 336 it's a great cartridge up to 150 or 175 yards. You could do far worse. Wiill the ammo ever be on special at Wal-Mart for 10.99? I doubt it. Will it still be available in your lifetime? I'd say yes. Essex

[Crosshair]

It is a great round and good for handloading as well. You can load pistol pullets in it and use it as a short range varmit gun. Load it with heavies and you can take most anything in the lower US. Just don't take really long shots. It is a hard hitting short/medium range round.

[wuchak]

With the Leverevolution from Hornady it's only down 1.3 inches at 200 yards and 17.5 at 300. There's also lots of good information about handloading the .35 Rem at marlinowners.com and handloads.com

Hornady's Leverevolution data from their site. https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_session=179ae9d4bfc728382d98f3df04cfbc67&page=shop%2Fbrowse&category_id=2f7af4cf2fbe021994131c5c629a8115

35 REM 200 gr. Evolution
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd
2225/2198 1963/1711 1721/1315 1503/1003

Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd
-1.7 3.0 -1.3 -17.5

[Knotthead]

Wiill the ammo ever be on special at Wal-Mart for 10.99? I doubt it.

Keep your eyes open. My local Wally World is apparently clearing out 200 grain Remington Core-Lokt at $5.00/box.

[Ndenway]

the 35rem is a fine lever round for deer but ammo only comes in two loadings that I've ever saw, 150gr and 200gr,

if you want a more powerful lever in 35cal, look for a marlin or winchester in 356win.

[.45Guy]

Much like knotthead, I picked up 140 rounds of 200grSP for $5.00 a box at Wal-Mart two months ago. I brought up making a permanent thread about ammo deals, but nothing ever came of it.

[rbernie]

Does .35 Rem have any advantage over the .30-30?I have a 30-30 Marlin 336 and a 35 Remington Marlin 336. I'd reach for the 35 Remington every time, given the choice between the two.

The 30-30 will give a slightly flatter trajectory out to 200 yards, but the 35 Remington will make far bigger holes and has far better 'splat' power. The difference in frontal area between a .308 and .358 diameter needs to be seen on target to be fully comprehended. Suffice it to say that the 35 Remington makes a much bigger hole.

[.45Guy]

The leverlution seems interesting. 150gr performance with a 200gr pill. I'll have to check it out.

[Andrew S]

I have a .35rem 336 and it packs quite a punch. Much more than the .32 win special 94 that I have which is suppose to have a slight edge on the .30-30. Unfortunately neither of them get much use because I cannot find ammo for either locally and under $15 a box is rare for either of them online and at the gun shows. I need to get into reloading.

[Kestrel]

Thanks for the info. Sounds like this would be a good round for pigs.

Does anyone happen to have a picture of a .35 cartridge next to a .30-30?

Why is this caliber not more popular?

Thanks again.

[Gordon]

One of the best pig rounds ever invented. Yes it certainly does bore a bigger hole than a 30-30 ! I,ve a 336 Marauder .35, a Remington Model 8 .35, a Remington 141 Pump .35, a Remington 600 .35,a T/C Contender 14" scoped .35, and an XP100R .35 . It is one of my favorite blowing big holes up to 200 yards guns!

[pinotguy]

Kestrel,

It's a shame but none of the .35 caliber cartridges ever gained the popularity that the .30 caliber loads did. Heck, all of the sub-.30 cal. loads have more of a following. I think the main reason .35 caliber loads get lost in the shuffle is that they're almost too much for North American game, yet aren't enough for Alaska and Africa. I'm actually a big .35 fan - have a custom rifle in 35 Whelen and I think .358 Norma Magnum is one of the greatest big-bore cartridges for all time.

[bearmgc]

I found the 35 rem to be very accurate and used it on deer for several years. Then switched it out for a Marlin in 375Win, that I just had to have, and have not regreted it. But it is a fine round for deer. Even saw some in use by elk hunters some years ago.

[44AMP]

Is a big stick in a small package. The effect on game is much more than the paper ballistics would indicate. It just has to be seen to be believed. Deer, great. Pigs too, I would think.

Way back when, before WWII, Remington had a line of cartridges (and rifles) to compete with Winchester. .25 Rem vs .25-35 Win, .30 Rem vs .30-30 Win, .32 Rem vs .32 Win Spl, and then there was the .35 Remington. The Remington rounds were all rimless, and were chambered in bolt, pump, and autoloader rifles. All the smaller rounds have faded away, but the .35 rem still lives on. I think for two main reasons. One, it does it's job very well. and Two, the Marlin lever gun. T/C Contenders have expanded it's popularity beyond the northeast woods, and that is a good thing, but it is not what has kept the round from fading away in the face of more modern competition.

For many years, the .35 Rem was the biggest thing you could get in a new production lever gun, and only Marlin made it. Until the .444 was introduced, amd the .45-70 re-introduced, the .35 was king of the woods.

before you get the impression that I am a huge fan of the .35 rem, let me say that I don't own one. I have a .30-30, and a .45-70. So I have no need of the .35 Remington. But I do respect it. My uncle carried one for years, and it always delivered. The new Hornady ammo will only make it better.

[.45Guy]

Does anyone happen to have a picture of a .35 cartridge next to a .30-30?


But of course, doesn't everyone?:D
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/.jpg

[Kestrel]

Thanks for all the great info. I spoke to a place that has a used 336, in .35 Rem, pre-safety. They want $350. That's pretty high for used, isn't it, since a new one is how much - around $425? (I'm not sure.)

.45Guy - thanks for the picture! Good comparison.

K.

[Gordon]

If it's in fine condition $350 is a good price for the much more desireable pre safety gun!:)

[Kestrel]

Okay, I took a closer look at it. It's a pre-safety, but has no checkering and the front sight hood is missing. The front sight insert is also dinged up a bit. Bluing is in good shape, as is the stock. No recoil pad - just a hard plate, like the older ones.

It's $325. If I got it, I would replace the sights with a receiver sight of some sort and a front blade or fiber optic type.

Was this made before a "C" version was coined? Is this a bottom-end version, since it has no checkering?

Thanks.

[GooseGestapo]

One of my all time favorite Outdoor magazine writers was Ed Zern who wrote a HUMOR article for Sports Afield a number of years ago.

He would often have a "readers letters" article lampooning many of the "letter's to the editors" the magazine recieved, seeking advice.

One, (my favorite) was from a distressed reader complaining that he was recently married and the wife couldn't tolerate his hunting hobby and desperately needed advice on handling the problem, as he was even considering suicide.:confused:

Eds response was "classic"!

He replied that since the range was short, trajectory was not an issue, Hence.................. he recommended the .35Rem with a 200gr Remington Corlokt.:what:

Not exactly what the "respondant" was expecting !!!!!!!!!:eek:

[rangerruck]

the 200 grn 35 remmy round is not only versatile, but can take out pretty big game , if need be. Can alos do a lot with the handloads.

[rbernie]

If it's in fine condition $350 is a good price for the much more desireable pre safety gun!That's awfully high, unless it's in 98% condition. Most of 'em run around $250-$275 in 80% condition, and I picked up one last year (pre-safety 336RC in 35 Rem) in 90% condition for $200.

[Kestrel]

That's what I thought. I think $325 is very high for that gun in that condition. I'll pass on that one, but maybe order a new one.

Thanks again.

[JShirley]

Personally, while some lever guns are handy, I'm more of a fan of the slide (pump) action.

Lots of good .35 Remington pumps out there. :)

John

[VA27]

The Remington Auto in 35 came out around 1906, and according to Elmer Keith in Big Game Rifles, "Many Alaskan hunters use the 35 Remington Auto for the big bear, as they like that fast, machine gun like action of the automatic, and what the rifle lacks in actual killing power they make up by repeated hits."

When it was introduced, the 35 Auto, both gun and cartridge were almost magic. Sure, there were more powerful rounds, but not in a handy package that could shoot so fast!

It's a dandy cartridge, but it is what it is. It works on most lower 48 game out to 150-200yds if you do your part.

If I could only have one gun it would be a...........SOCOM in 358 Winchester!! What!? Did I say that out loud?:D

[joelblevins]

can you use any other cartridges in the marlin 336 35 caliber

[Jubjub]

A 158 grain cast round nose .357 pistol bullet and 10 grains of Unique makes a dandy plinking load.

[Abel]

The 35 can only shoot 35 cartridges. But there is a plethora of bullets available to the handloader.

[saturno_v]

I'm don't know if the 35 Remington is that much more effective than a 30-30.

However, an Alaskan fisherman I personally know, dropped a grizzly during a charge with 2 shots out of his 336 in 35 Rem......pretty effective.

As for the Remington pump, I prefer a much more capable cartridge in the same package, I own a 7600 in 30-06 (and a Rem 740 semi-auto in 30-06 as well).

I do not reload, so for my lever action I did choose the 336 in 30-30....you can find ammo everywhere....not so for the 35 Rem.

[CZguy]

I do not reload, so for my lever action I did choose the 336 in 30-30....you can find ammo everywhere....not so for the 35 Rem.

I'll admit that 30-30 is more common, but I think that .35 Rem. may be a regional availability. It's pretty common around here in rural areas, just like 30-30 or 30.06.

[pmec]

When I was in my early 20's, I looked for a rifle that would bust brush seeing that I typically hunted in deep woods. I chose the Marlin 336C chambered in .35 Rem. I wasn't sorry. The 200 grain round nose did a fine job from 50 to 100 yards.

Now some 40 years later, my legs ain't what they used to be and I can't traverse the terrain that I used to. Hornady came along at the right time with their Leverevolution line. I bought a box of cartridges and was super impressed. Then I bought a box of bullets and a can of H4895 and reloaded a few with 35 grains. I haven't had a chance to burn them yet, but I will be soon.

[Oyeboten]

Folks at home even sent WWI Regiments Crates of Model 8 Remington Autoloaders in .35 Rem back when one could still do such things

I like the Model 8, but it is kinda heavy to lug around.


Kansas City PD and some others used to get theirs modified for detachable extended Magazines...pretty alright outfit that way.

[Hillbillyz]

I have my Dad's Remington 141 in .35 as well as my Marlin 336. Any deer hit with either rifle never went far. One of the law men that stopped Bonnie and Clyde used a Remington Model 8 .35 Rem with a special 15 round clip. He had seen that a Thompson just didn't get the job done when the target was in a car, so he wanted something with more punch.