911 In Missouri


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Babarsac
October 10, 2006, 05:24 PM
I work for a company in VA that builds 911 computer systems for counties around the country. One of my coworkers heads out next week to Barry county for a month, and I'll be heading out to Jefferson county in 3-4 months. We have to drive around the county with a GPS system collecting data. If you live on a long driveway I will have to drive down it. If we need to change your address I will come knock on your door.

I'm curious if anyone is going to say "I don't need 911" :banghead:
And if they will always answer the door with a gun.

That .45 on your hip can't protect against fire or a heart attack big guy (i've said that to someone before).

If you don't want me on your property or threaten me (being rude is okay) I can come back with a police escort :neener:

so just a heads up to those in Missouri...dont shoot the 911 guy...we're not solicitors!!

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Otherguy Overby
October 10, 2006, 05:27 PM
Don't worry, Misery is OK.

However, iff'n you wanna try this in Arkansas, have you considered life insurance?

People are really friendly here, but don't extend that assumption to confronting them on their own property.

mogunner
October 10, 2006, 05:37 PM
I don't think that you will have any problems here in Missouri. We all know what 911 is and how good it is. In Callaway County, where I reside, we have a great enhanced 911 with excellent response time. I know, I have had to use it when my wife suffered a stroke a couple of years ago, as well as some brush fires in our area. Its quite wooded here. We don't meet people at the door with a .45, more like an AR-15:D

Nio
October 10, 2006, 09:18 PM
We had 911 service in rural Louisiana. We called it one time, and the police did come...the next day!

Nio

ozarkhillbilly
October 10, 2006, 10:35 PM
I don't see Jefferson county as a problem but in Barry county some of the people have lived on the land for generations and while I don't think your buddy will have any problems some of them will not like their address changed. I would just tell people your with "911 you know the phone company" just be friendly and polite and you probably wont have any trouble. Also it will help if you are in a 4x4 truck for two reason 1. some of the dirt roads can be alittle rough and 2.you wont look like your selling anything or on government business. As a last resort tell anybody giving you any trouble that Stone county already has it its not a big deal.

duck911
October 10, 2006, 11:41 PM
I've been in the 911 industry my entire career. I'm currently a System Administrator for a company in Colorado (I'm sure you know us...) who's business is partially to provide turn-key 911 solutions to wireless providers so that the PSAPs get good PH1 and PH2. I happen to be one of the Admins that runs the show with respect to the MPC/GMLC's and PDE's for wireless 911 as well as VoIP.

It's always cool to hear from a fellow 911 guru! :)

Anyhow, in my former job I was the 911 System (PSAP) Administrator for a large county in South Carolina. Although I was primarily responsible for the SALI databases and CPE and all things 911 INSIDE the building, I frequently went out with the addressing officer, because we were friends and it was fun to get out of the office and see new sights.

All I can say is, in rural America there's folks who don't like strangers driving down their driveways.

Of course, we were in a marked Sheriffs SUV, but still, we were cussed at, people RAN, we got strange looks, attack dogs chased us, and more than once we just outright left because we were afraid for our safety - and we were armed!! We were in the lowcountry of South Carolina and in some bad areas, but I imagine the reaction might be the same in other rural areas. Obviusly, people don't like it when they find out that their address they've had for 75 years need to now be an ODD number instead of an EVEN number.....

Please, BE SAFE! NO MSAG entry is worth your life. Some folks just don't want to be helped. Depending on the jurisdiction you may find your police escort and/or they may write tickets or issue summons for the folks who won't cooperate but either way it will take care of itself, no sense in getting killed over some cranky, anti-social backwoods person's address.

Take it easy,

TimboKhan
October 11, 2006, 12:17 AM
That .45 on your hip can't protect against fire or a heart attack big guy (i've said that to someone before).

I wouldn't be rude or threatening to you, but I happen to be a big guy, and if you said that to me, I would seriously contemplate punching you in the jibs. Thats pretty insulting, really...

That being said, what do I care if you want to make sure 911 can get to me. Come on over.

Babarsac
October 11, 2006, 08:54 AM
In actuality I'm not too worried about what I might run into while out in the field. This is more for my coworker who has never done field work before. If I come across a resident with a gun I'ts more likely I'll waste working time talking firearms. :D

Oh and TimboKahn, That was only the phrase going through my head when talking to one individual who thought that he would NEVER need 911 because he had a GUN. After some small talk I got him to sign up.

In all can't wait to get out to MO.

TallPine
October 11, 2006, 09:23 AM
Sorta funny story ... one time I hear chatter on the radio, a deputy was wandering around the neighborhood trying to find an address. It was the house next to mine that you have to cross my land to get to. I called him on my VFD portable radio, and gave him directions.:D

Babarsac, do you GPS the house itself or the driveway turnoff, or both?

Out in this area (rugged hills, lots of rimrocks), knowing the lat/lon of the house wouldn't do you much good, because cars still have to travel on some sort of road. :rolleyes: And some of the private roads are blocked off to prevent through traffic, so you have to know which end of the road to enter.

I guess GPS could be useful in some instances, but to me it mostly seems like a toy to play with when you don't have anything better to do. Not a subsitute for emergency personnel actually knowing their way around the country.

Babarsac
October 11, 2006, 09:54 AM
The only time we GPS a driveway is if it's set back from the road. If there is another access road to the house we GPS that as well. If the house is right aggainst the road there is no point to GPS the driveway.

If it makes things easier for e911 we have the authority from the county to change addresses.






your AR-15 or your address :evil:

hee hee just kidding

taliv
October 11, 2006, 10:09 AM
barbasac,

why don't you just use maps.google.com? they have satellite photos. and it's a lot easier than driving to every stinkin house with a gps. you'd never have to leave your desk.

Babarsac
October 11, 2006, 10:32 AM
taliv,

We already have digital files with all the houses, addresses, roads, etc. The field work component is just to verify all the data we have and spot potential problems. Unfortunately I will spend most of the project sitting in front of this computer :mad:

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