Ct Mayor, AND his political foes, fight for RKBA


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Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
October 11, 2006, 01:30 PM
http://www.connpost.com/news/ci_4473055

Stratford political foes defend right to carry weapon to Town Hall,

Article Launched:10/11/2006 12:21:45 AM EDT

A number of residents who spoke during and after the meeting were divided over whether Miron should be allowed to carry a legally licensed weapon to his Town Hall office and council meetings.

Miron, 41, who served in the U.S. Army, again on Tuesday would neither confirm nor deny whether he carries a gun to Town Hall, but said he does have a state gun permit.

He has been seen with the guns in Town Hall by Town Council Chairman James Feehan, R-9, and a top administrator who asked not to be identified.

Several council members have also confirmed they have gun permits, but deny carrying the guns to Town Hall.

Thomas Carroll, who ran as a petition candidate in November's first mayoral race, ripped Miron during the public portion of Tuesday's meeting. Miron did not show up until after the public portion was completed. "I wish the mayor were here so I could tell him this face to face," Carroll said. "But what kind of example do you, our mayor and council members, think you are setting in regard to the children of Stratford?

"You can spin it on 'right to bear arms,' but I believe, Mr. Mayor, and others, you are protected by our police force if you have been threatened."
Later in the meeting, several council members shot back at Carroll and also blamed the media for creating the controversy.

"It's nobody's business who is carrying a legal firearm, and I would neither confirm nor deny if I do or not," Councilman Robert Camillo, R-8, said in response to Carroll's comments. "This is a nonissue that should die here tonight."

When Carroll asked to respond, he was advised by Feehan that he could not do so because the public portion of the meeting was over.

Carroll stormed out, but said on the way out, "Town employees have told me they have seen the mayor's guns, and that is a violation of the law because they have to be concealed."

Feehan, who confirmed he is a gun owner, said he saw the mayor carrying two guns at one time one handgun was strapped to his ankle, the other at his side under a suit jacket as he sat behind the council table during a meeting within the past few months.

But on Tuesday, Feehan blasted the media for "stirring all of this up," and defended Miron's right to carry legal weapons.

"I think there are a lot of issues more important than whether the mayor carries legal weapons to Town Hall," Feehan said. "The problem is that the media saw blood in the water and decided to fire [political] shots at the mayor."

Feehan, however, followed up those comment by saying: "If, by carrying these weapons, it makes anyone in Town Hall feel uncomfortable, I would ask the mayor to consider not doing it anymore."

Bill Lindberg, a frequent council critic, also blasted the mayor for carrying guns.

"Why does the mayor feel the need to carry guns?" Lindberg asked during the public portion. "Is he doing something wrong that makes him believe he needs a gun?"

Afterward, Lindberg suggested a new ordinance to prohibit guns in any public places. There is already an ordinance in town that prohibits the discharge of firearms within 300 feet of certain buildings and schools. Stratford High School is across the street from Town Hall.

"I served in World War II and I know what guns can do," Lindberg said. But on Tuesday, Miron drew support from several political foes. GOP opponent Domenic Costello, who lost to Miron in last year's mayoral contest, and former Democratic Town Council Chairman Robert Calzone, who lost the party's mayoral nomination to Miron, defended Miron's right to carry guns into Town Hall.

"These days, with all the threats and violence in our society, I believe a mayor, or anyone else, has the right to carry guns anywhere they want, as long as they keep them concealed and have a permit," said Costello, a former Bridgeport police officer.

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romma
October 11, 2006, 01:48 PM
The media is making a mess out of this apparently. The Mayor should make sure his gun remains concealed. However, sounds like a lot of the council members carry, or own guns, which in my opinion is cool as heck. They should along with the rest of the citizens of Stratford do what we did here with Their Ordinance proposal.... Tell them to stick it! :)

280PLUS
October 11, 2006, 02:04 PM
Noone seems to mention that Stratford butts up against Bridgeport which is as good a reason as any to be armed.

romma
October 11, 2006, 02:43 PM
"You can spin it on 'right to bear arms,' but I believe, Mr. Mayor, and others, you are protected by our police force if you have been threatened."
Murder can happen in the middle of a green grassy field at an Amish school in Nowhere Pennsylvania. People should be have the right to self-defense anywhere,including the Mayor. I don't think the police force is a personal bodyguard service for the Mayor...

44Brent
October 11, 2006, 06:10 PM
There is no legal requirement in Connecticut that an individual conceal their pistol. If they have a license it is good for OPEN carry.

http://www.opencarry.org/ct.html
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum14/37.html

dm1333
October 11, 2006, 06:50 PM
I grew up in Stratford and just went back for a visit. I was distinctly uncomfortable when I had to get off I-95 and drive through Bridgeport. As for the guy who didn't want to let the mayor carry at Town Hall because of how close it is to SHS, get real!

dasmi
October 11, 2006, 06:52 PM
Bill Lindberg, a frequent council critic, also blasted the mayor for carrying guns.

"Why does the mayor feel the need to carry guns?" Lindberg asked during the public portion. "Is he doing something wrong that makes him believe he needs a gun?"
What a jackass.

280PLUS
October 11, 2006, 07:25 PM
As far as open carry, I was told, in my NRA class, that if someone spotted my gun and called the police the officer who responds is the one to make the call and it all depends on his or her mood that day pretty much. If they want to make an issue out of it they can.

ProguninTN
October 11, 2006, 08:36 PM
What kind of example is the mayor setting ?

He is teaching the children to take responsibility for their own safety, and to fully exercise a Constitutional Right.

romma
October 12, 2006, 05:44 PM
As far as open carry, I was told, in my NRA class, that if someone spotted my gun and called the police the officer who responds is the one to make the call and it all depends on his or her mood that day pretty much. If they want to make an issue out of it they can. Right on the money 280. Even though there is nothing in the State Statutes, I did find this little tidbit that is hidden in the state firearms website, even though there is no lw about open carry, the CT.GOV people make crap up as the go along... Here it is: http://www.ct.gov/bfpe/cwp/view.asp?a=1252&q=254186 Q36. Does my permit to carry pistols and revolvers permit me to carry it on my person?

A. Yes. However, mature judgment dictates that every effort should be made to make sure that no gun is exposed to view or carried in any manner that would tend to alarm people who see it. When your gun becomes visible so as to cause alarm, the police are called, and your permit to carry is placed in jeopardy of revocation.

distra
October 12, 2006, 08:07 PM
There is no legal requirement in Connecticut that an individual conceal their pistol. If they have a license it is good for OPEN carry.

Nope. You have to conceal carry. Romma and 280 are right, there's not much on the books, but off private property you are going to get a visit from an LEO.

I saw this yesterday on the news and was glad the mayor stood up for his legal carry of a firearm. However, the media found folks that thought this was "sending the wrong message" :barf: He is setting the proper example, legal concealed carry in a dangerous world. We can't coddle our children so much that they don't understand how dangerous a world we live in these days. I wish they would have interviewed me, 280 or romma :evil:

"Is he doing something wrong that makes him believe he needs a gun?"
Like he has to be involved in crime to legally own a gun?:banghead: What an idiot!:rolleyes:

280PLUS
October 12, 2006, 10:16 PM
Really, where do these people come from? :rolleyes:

distra
October 12, 2006, 10:43 PM
My guess is NY or MA :evil:

romma
October 13, 2006, 11:38 AM
I am sincerely proud that the pro-gun Ct people are fighting tooth-n-nail these days. It is almost as if we are a tipping state lately. A lot of small victories and slightly less bigoted news articles.

280PLUS
October 13, 2006, 12:27 PM
Well, given there's supposed to be about 400,000 of us with CCW alone out there you'd think Schlesinger would be giving the Dems more of a run for their money than he is. Too bad. Plus I see where the NRA gave both jodi and Destefano an "F", that kinda sucks too. I always thought she was more receptive than that. :rolleyes:

Shootin' tomorrow dis?

We need to get romma out there, looks like he's pretty surprisingly close to Montville. Gotta check with the juggler first though. :D

romma
October 13, 2006, 01:09 PM
The reason our ccw level is so high here in Ct is that in order to purchase a handgun, you need either the permit, or the eligibility cert. Most people I know with permits in Ct don't carry with any regularity. Although I know some.

distra
October 13, 2006, 06:32 PM
Yep. Bringing Mama tomorrow to shoot her new hand picked piece.:D If you are there, might get to shoot a nice German 9mm:D

jnojr
October 13, 2006, 06:57 PM
Can an "average citizen" CCW into a City Council meeting?

If yes, then this is a non-issue.

If no, then IMO the Mayor and Councilmembers shouldn't, either. They aren't a "ruling class".

distra
October 13, 2006, 09:42 PM
As long as the meeting is not in a school or courthouse it's not an issue. As for the mayor CCW, at least he is legal to do so, unlike a certain mayor, eh hum Daley, of a certain anti-gun city:rolleyes:

orionengnr
October 13, 2006, 09:53 PM
God Bless Connecticut...and may it avoid becoming more like NY and MA, and...need I continue?

I was born and raised there, and I still have family and friends there, although through a "joint venture" with Uncle Sam, I left there in 1977...

ConstitutionCowboy
October 13, 2006, 10:07 PM
"You can spin it on 'right to bear arms,' but I believe, Mr. Mayor, and others, you are protected by our police force if you have been threatened."
Later in the meeting, several council members shot back at Carroll and also blamed the media for creating the controversy.

Sometimes, if not most times, the threat doesn't last long enough to summon the "protection of the police force" from its inception to its execution. I would say the threat is from the time the arm is drawn to the time the trigger is pulled. I would hazard a guess the threat lasts less than a second.

Hmm, a new term to define: "LEGAL FIREARM" n A firearm bought and sold in compliance with unconstitutional law.

Woody

"The Right of the People to move about freely in a secure manner shall not be infringed. Any manner of self defense shall not be restricted, regardless of the mode of travel or where you stop along the way, as it is the right so enumerated at both the beginning and end of any journey." B.E.Wood

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