Driving down south on vacation with Pistols.... Advice?


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Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
October 11, 2006, 01:13 PM
I'm about to head down south to see family, with N. Carolina and S. Carolina being our two destinations.

I'm legal, licensed, and permitted in New jersey, and will be travelling with
two triggerlocked pistols, in a locked case, and no ammo. I'll be passing
from NJ, through Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, into NC and SC.

We'll be in and out of DE and MD pretty quickly, which is good as these pose the biggest issue, as I hear it.

I have no carry permit, and will not be carrying whatsoever. Anyone see any issues, or known denials of 'peacable journey'?

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Gunfire
October 11, 2006, 01:56 PM
I don't have an good answer to your question but when I read your post, I have to ask how does the state of New Jersey get away with, "licensed and permited" but you can't carry? You have to get a license to own and a permit to own, what the 2nd clearly says shall not be infringed and you still can't realistically defend yourself and your family.

I know NC doesn't recognize many other states permits, if any. Anyhow, I shall not infringe on any state north of Va. and I assume that means to the NJ lawmakers/breakers assume I will be there all the time. What a laughingstock state and a bunch of hypocrites. sorry, not you but the traitor NJ legislators.

Good luck.

wdlsguy
October 11, 2006, 02:29 PM
You should be golden. You should look into a Florida CHL so you can carry (at least part of the time) next time.

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driverís compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

18 USC 926a
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000926---A000-.html

MechAg94
October 11, 2006, 03:38 PM
Perspective is a very strange thing sometimes. I have never considered the Carolinas to be "Down South". :)

I thought you would be talking about Mexico when I saw the thread title.

ApexinM3
October 11, 2006, 04:01 PM
Just_A_Dude,
Legally you should be okay, assuming that the weapons are locked up. The fact of no ammo also helps.

Good cause for concern in MD, but even here you will be okay legally.

Whatever you do, DON'T carry any of them on you.

wdlsguy
October 11, 2006, 04:15 PM
I know NC doesn't recognize many other states permits, if any.
Delaware - AK, AZ, CO, FL, KY, MI, MO, NC, ND, OH, OK, TN, TX, UT
Maryland - Does not honor any other state permits.
Virginia - AK, AR, AZ, FL, KY, LA, MI, MN, MO, MT, NC, NM, OH, OK, SC, TN, TX, UT, WA, WV, WY
North Carolina - AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, NH, ND, OH, OK, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WY
South Carolina - AK, AR, LA, MI, NC, OH, TX, TN, WY (resident permits only)
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf

ApexinM3
October 11, 2006, 04:18 PM
and will be travelling with two triggerlocked pistols, in a locked case, and no ammo.

Am I to assume you will not be carrying them on your person? If so, then yes you will be legal.

RNB65
October 11, 2006, 04:18 PM
No problem as long as they're in the trunk of your car.

If they're in the passenger compartment, then you start running into complications.

JohnBT
October 11, 2006, 04:31 PM
"I have never considered the Carolinas to be "Down South"."

Let's see, Maryland is south of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Richmond was the capital of the Confederacy.
North Carolina was(is?) the location of Tobacco Road and Mayberry RFD. :)
South Carolina is, well, South Carolina and home of Pedro at South of the Border. :neener:

John

P.S. - You can load the pistol in Virginia and leave it exposed on the seat or the dash. Just don't throw a coat or newspaper over it or it's considered to be concealed.

MechAg94
October 11, 2006, 04:56 PM
From where I sit, Mexico is to the south. Most other states are north.

Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
October 11, 2006, 05:03 PM
Thanks, all, for weighing in.

Yes, NC and SC are "the south" if you were born and raised in New england and NYC. Below that? well that would be the DEEP SOUTH :)

No, I will not be carrying, at all. and I've got the wife and kid in tow, so, no, I will not be loading it and leaving it on my seat... :D

I'm only bothering because the only time I get to shoot at a range or on private property is when I'm on vacation with extended family either in Ct, Vt, NH, or down in the Carolinas.

I literally don't know anyone at all that shoots in my area, and with a 2 year old, there is no 'escaping' on the weekends. I've never even been to a range in NJ. Sad, yes, but it is
New Jersey, 2 minutes across the Hudson from New York City.

wdlsguy
October 11, 2006, 05:12 PM
the only time I get to shoot at a range or on private property is when I'm on vacation with extended family either in Ct, Vt, NH, or down in the Carolinas.
In that case, apply for CT and NH nonresident licenses once you get your FL nonresident license (hint, hint).

Gunfire
October 11, 2006, 09:10 PM
originally posted by wdlsguy

North Carolina - AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, NH, ND, OH, OK, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WY
South Carolina - AK, AR, LA, MI, NC, OH, TX, TN, WY (resident permits only)

I stand corrected. It iwas SC that I was thinking of that doesn't recognize alot of other states and they don't recognize non-resident permits, so if you got a NH permit it's no good in SC.

Utah got it right. How could any law-abiding citizen get confused and make a "technical' mistake there? Utah recognizes everyone that is permited. Way to go Utah!

tegemu
October 12, 2006, 09:30 AM
If you pass through D.C., pray that they don't find out about the firearms. As I understand it, they are STRICTLY FORBIDDEN there under any circumstances, and the consequences can be draconan.

Owen
October 12, 2006, 09:35 AM
If you want to keep a loaded gun in the car, NC requires that the pistol be visible, and SC requires that a loaded pistol must be in a closed compartment (glovebox or console)

Houser52
October 13, 2006, 08:57 AM
Check here: http://www.grnc.org/reciprocity/index.html

We (NC) have reciprocity with a lot of other states. Looks as though NJ is not one of them.

mp510
October 13, 2006, 09:57 AM
In that case, apply for CT and NH nonresident licenses once you get your FL nonresident license (hint, hint).
Go in the following order:


Florida- No prerequisite permit required from your home state or any other.Shall issue.
New Hampshire Very inexpensive and usually issued quickly. Shall issue, like Florida, BUT you need to have a permit from some other state (you can use Florida) before they will issue a non-res.
Connecticut- Requires that you have a permit from some other state, though in the past people have been denied for not haveing one from their homestate. A NJ guy was able to sue and win, so you shouldn't have a problem so long as you hold one or more non-res permits first.

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