Ex ATF head's corruption exposed


October 12, 2006, 12:39 AM
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October 12, 2006, 07:24 AM
Truscott was not the first political appointee to ignore the ethics rules that the rest of us have to live by. Abuse is the norm these days in some parts of fed.gov.


October 12, 2006, 09:38 AM
Petty bickering among senior execs in a corrupt agency...(yawn)

Misuse of funds...wake me up when anyone does any jail time.

All this stuff is typical, inside the beltway kleptocracy infighting.

The gun community shouldn't waste any of their own effort, or be too distracted with these issues. Rather, don't lose sight of ATF's freedom-robbing activities that continue unabated. I'm thinking most recently of the gunsmith confiscations, gunshop license revocations and harassment, import kit/restrictions, etc. Perhaps the remainder of this thread ought to discuss those issues.

We have a very real possibility of a political shift in the '06 and '08 elections. Factions within the ATF will have no qualms about throwing down with gun owners if gun-grabbers get control of the executive and legislative branches.

Don't be distracted.

October 12, 2006, 09:48 AM
Did some BATFE agents quit because of this guy?

October 12, 2006, 08:08 PM
I don't know, I quit following the story when it broke in February.


October 13, 2006, 12:24 AM
I think he should be charged and found guilty of a felony and his 2nd amendment rights stripped from his warm hands. Then let him see how it feels when he can not petition the BATFE to restore those rights. JUSTICE.

October 14, 2006, 12:14 AM
Ex-ATF chief had staff give homework aid

By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer Wed Oct 11, 11:01 PM ET

WASHINGTON - The man who recently departed as director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ordered his staff to help with his nephew's high school homework, wasting the agency's time and violating ethics rules, an inquiry found Wednesday.

The nephew's project — a documentary about the ATF that took 10 months to complete — was one of a half-dozen examples of lapses in judgment Carl J. Truscott committed before he resigned in August, says the report by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine.

The report found that only the high school project demonstrated mismanagement by Truscott, whose employees accused him of wasting federal funds, taking costly trips and creating a hostile work environment.

Still, investigators described themselves as troubled by Truscott's leadership, hiring practices and financial decisions, including his plan to spend $100,000 on gym equipment for the ATF's new headquarters.

The most damning conclusions were saved for the homework episode.

"Significant ATF resources were used to assist Truscott's nephew on a high school project," the report found. "By directing and authorizing the use of ATF resources in his nephew's high school class project, we believe that Truscott violated several ethical regulations."

An estimated 20 ATF employees were pulled in to help with the documentary, spending dozens of hours on research, pulling film footage from the agency's library and setting up interviews with Truscott and other officials in Washington and Philadelphia.

The nephew received an 'A' on the project, the report noted.

Moreover, the report found, Truscott "failed to fully accept responsibility for the project by minimizing the extent of ATF resources that were committed to it" and tried to justify his staff's help as a form of community outreach.

Truscott could not be reached for comment Wednesday. But in a Sept. 25 letter to Fine, responding to a draft copy of the report, Truscott acknowledged that he should have placed appropriate limits on the resources that could be used in support of the project."

In his letter, Truscott also lashed back at the critical report, which he called negative in tone and based on allegations from anonymous sources who second-guessed his judgment.

Fine opened the investigation after he and Special Counsel Scott J. Bloch received an anonymous letter dated Jan. 20, 2006.

It contended that Truscott had horribly mismanaged federal dollars in a variety of ways, including demanding a larger security detail than needed, making unnecessary upgrades to the new ATF headquarters building project, and taking expensive trips to London, New York City, Boston, and Ottawa on the agency's bill. The letter also complained that Truscott created a hostile work environment by directing two staffers to serve lunch to him and his guests.

Fine's investigation substantiated the charges and chided Truscott for poor judgment, but it added, "We did not find that these financial decisions constituted misconduct."

A person close to the investigation, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Wednesday the allegations may have been made by Truscott's top deputies, who were facing reassignment as part of an agency reorganization.

E-mails dated Jan. 15 — five days before the anonymous letter was sent to Fine — show Truscott telling ATF Deputy Director Edgar Domenech the changes would come "as early as this week."

Fine received another anonymous letter Sept. 22 from a group that described itself as concerned ATF employees. The group argued that three ATF assistant directors also were mismanaging agency funds by commuting to work in government-owned cars, promoting relatives and arranging weeklong conferences for employees at resorts like the Hard Rock Casino in Los Vegas.

It was not immediately clear whether Fine's office was investigating the newest allegations.

Malone LaVeigh
October 14, 2006, 11:27 AM
Who is responsible for this bozo's appointment and how long was he allowed to serve?

December 27, 2006, 11:40 AM
:evil: During my exhaustive research of the Helen Brach murder investigation there is a clear pattern that I see. ATF Rotunno is an expert at deception to support his theories. Before ATF Rotunno leaked the Plemmons lies to the media he was heavily promoted as a great man in a book called Unbridled Rage by Gene O’Shea.(I want to make it clear that all I say about Gene O’Shea and his book are just my and a few others opinions.)

I feel that this was part of Rotunno’s plan to win public opinion of what great work he had done of getting people convicted for murders. Then his new fabricated story would carry more weight. In Unbridled Rage a lot of stories about Silas Jayne and his family are told by Rottunno and other law enforcement agents. After all the lies I have pointed out about ATF Rotunno’s disregard for the law and lying, do you believe his stories?

Rottuno paints a picture to support his con. Gene O’Shea appears to be his P.R. man. Not once throughout this book does he say anything negative about Rotunno. It appears to me and a few others that O’Shea has a hidden agenda in writing this book!

He really sucks up to Rotunno a lot. I and some others are very, very suspicious of Gene O’Shea becoming Illinois Gaming Commissioner. Did Rotunno or his ATF buddies have something to do with Govenor Blagoavich appointing him to be Illinois Gaming Commissioner?

He was a reporter at the Daily Southtown newspaper in suburban Chicago while working very close to Rotunno then he becomes Illinois Gaming Commissioner. Very, very interesting! I think this should be investigated! What do you think?

In the 1995 Ken Hansen murder trial, Hansen’s defense attorney O’Donnell says as Gene O’Shea writes in O’Donnell’s opening statement, “The state’s case was nothing more than fabrication, woven from lies and stories of paid witnesses who were working hand in hand with federal agents to rebuild the tarnished reputation of the Bureau of Tobacco, Alcohol and Firearms, O’Donnell said.”

“An unholy alliance was created a few years ago, that alliance was between William Wemette, a man who has to please people who pay him money, provide him housing, give him free telephone service, and a unit of government called ATF,” O’Donnell said. “The ATF in 1993 was probably the most discredited law enforcement agency on the face of the earth after the Waco disaster and Ruby Ridge. They desperately needed to seek to rehabilitate their image before the public.”

William Wemette was and FBI informant from 1971-1989. Then the ATF gets new information from him in the 90’s about a murder that happened in the 50’s. Very, very suspicious looking! Maybe another ATF setup! What do you think?

O’Shea writes about the 1995 Bailey trial, “Judge Shadur found that Bailey had conspired to murder Helen Brach based on a “preponderance of evidence.”

This is just from Joe Plemmons testimony! Bailey was convicted of stealing from rich woman. But to sentence him for conspiring to kill Helen Brach on Joe Plemmons word alone looks real weird to me!

O’Shea writes, “On a moment’s notice Rotunno would find himself switching gears from a suburban family man with a wife and three daughters to his undercover persona as a ruthless drug dealer who “moved” truckloads of marijuana. Gang members came to admire Rotunno, nick naming him “Red” because of the government-issued undercover hot rod he drove, a fully loaded red Mustang.”

So Rotunno is a trained liar. I bet he is so good at lying that he could look you in the eyes and make you believe his lie. He can probably lie constantly to a lie detector and pass the test!

O’Shea writes, “Rotunno, with all of his years of undercover work, had honed his instincts, and trusted them. His intuition had gotten him out of a jam on more than one occasion; sometimes he just knew he was right about a suspect or theory.” “Like many lawmen, Rotunno was very good at reading personalities. He often relied on his internal lie detector when sizing up witnesses and informants. Rotunno was also a guarded individual. He rarely shared his opinions or true emotions, and when he did, it was only around those he trusted. Rotunno’s guarded demeanor would pigeonhole him as “bad cop” in an interrogation situation.”

So once Rotunno creates a theory he will do whatever it takes to support his theory. In the Helen Brach murder investigation, he has lied and fabricated evidence to support his theory. He thinks he is above the law. He has broken the law over and over. Why should Rotunno be able to break the law and not be fired and prosecuted?

Remember ATF Bob Hauffman saying on Jan 10, 2005 on “60 Minutes” that he could substantiate one of the three ATF woman agent’s claims that ATF agents sexually harassed them. He went on to say that all the criminals that he has put away in his career, all of them have more honor than the top official in the ATF! He said I know this is a sad commentary but that is my experience as an ATF agent! How can we blame ATF Rotunno? He is just following their example!

December 27, 2006, 12:50 PM
So, all the idiotic stuff we see CTU personnel do on "24" is actually closer to reality?

The Deer Hunter
December 27, 2006, 12:53 PM
The entire government is corrupt in some way or another. Hell, Deval Patrick is throwing a week long 1.3million dollar party because he got elected. Not his money but tax money and noones done anything about it.

December 27, 2006, 12:57 PM
That's how the head of the local BATFE unit here described the Branch Davidian debacle on a talk radio show recently. That's probably comforting to the children who were shot, burned, gassed and crushed to death.

December 27, 2006, 01:02 PM
Considering all the recent "abuses" by the ATF, I find it (sadly) amusing that they're going after him for having some ATF employess help his kid with his homework!

December 27, 2006, 01:21 PM
Deer Hunter, care to PM me some citation of this 1.3 million dollar party?

December 27, 2006, 04:22 PM
Good people just trying to do their job.


That's how the head of the local BATFE unit here described the Branch Davidian debacle on a talk radio show recently. That's probably comforting to the children who were shot, burned, gassed and crushed to death.
Find a picture of the Davidians, then Google "Good Old Boy's Roundup", then Google "Black + ATF + Agents + settlement".

It'll be clear why he said what he said. I'm sure Klaus Barbie would say the same thing about Juergen Stroop and Joachim Peiper.

Several BATF agents were pulled from the church burning investigation. There's a reason for that.

December 27, 2006, 05:07 PM
Corruption in the federal government for the most part goes unpunished unless a scape goat is needed.
Its like the dog chasing its tail. Who investigates the corrupt politicians who investigate the corrupt politicians?

FBI, CIA, BATFE, etc heads are all politicians.

December 28, 2006, 04:49 PM
I remember a federal bigwig named John Magaw(check spelling) who ran the old ATF agency when it was under the US Dept of Treasury. He cut funding for field agents and operations but got in trouble for passing his own big bonus through the system :rolleyes: . This guy was a retired USSS agent(Secret Service) who ran the police/LE section of the VA(US Dept of Veterans Affairs). When the 083 police officers in the VA wanted to push for federal LEO status to get more pay/benefits, Magaw fought hard against it(even when he RETIRED under the same USSS employment conditions).

The fraud/waste/abuse this guy caused as a federal employee was just as bad or worse! :cuss:


December 28, 2006, 05:28 PM
That's how the head of the local BATFE unit here described the Branch Davidian debacle on a talk radio show recently. That's probably comforting to the children who were shot, burned, gassed and crushed to death.

I agree with your premise, but you seem to imply that had only adults been massacred at Waco, it would somehow have been more palatable--and that's where I draw a huge line. NO tyranny is acceptable, against ANYONE.

Art Eatman
December 28, 2006, 06:56 PM
ATF bashes over affairs that have nothing to do with us aren't THR material. Bash elsewhere.


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