North Carolina CCW Laws -- ???


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ForeignDude
October 12, 2006, 12:26 PM
I may be looking at North Carolina as my next duty station. Perchance, I looked up the relevant laws regarding concealed carry. Folks, what is up with some of these regs?

"It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or possess, off his own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. A concealed handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas."

What if I end up in the middle of a riot in progress? (No smart remarks -- it happened to me in L.A., back in '92)

"By common law in North Carolina, it is unlawful for a person to arm himself with any unusual and dangerous weapon, for the purpose of terrifying others, and go about on public highways in a manner to cause terror to others. The N.C. Supreme Court has said that any gun is an unusual and dangerous weapon for purposes of this offense."

That pretty much renders open-carry a dangerous proposition. All I need is for one of the Brady kooks to catch the vapors and "sic" the cops on me.

And this one just takes the cake:

"North Carolina law also prohibits any person carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission or into any establishment where alcoholic beverages are both sold and consumed."

Which knocks out virtually all restaurants, movie theaters, symphonies, theme parks, zoos, fairs, rodeos, museums, etc.

And let's not forget these beauties:

"Even with a permit, you may not carry a concealed handgun in the following areas:
b) Any space occupied by state or federal employees;
c) A financial institution;
d) Any premises where the carrying of a concealed handgun is prohibited by
the posting of a statement by the controller of the premises;
f) Areas of assemblies, parades, funerals, or demonstrations..."

Does this mean no carry in the "unsecured" areas of an airport, since it is a "space" occupied by state and federal employees? The financial institutions prohibition is an interesting one: I'm clear that I can't carry into the bank, but what about the ATM attached to the bank?

Finally, there's no carry in state parks.

So, let me see if I got it all down. First, I can carry in my own home, although I should research that more carefully before I reach any definitive conclusions. I can also carry in bookstores and fast-food joints, unless they post a "No Guns Allowed" sign. Oh, and I can carry on the street, unless I run into a funeral or a parade, in which case I'm boned.

All these restrictions render concealed or open carry virtually a moot point, don't they?

[If you're from North Carolina, please understand that I am NOT impugning your state -- if I have offended, please forgive me.]

Talk to me, North Carolina people.

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TX1911fan
October 12, 2006, 12:44 PM
And I thought Texas was bad . . .

shield20
October 12, 2006, 02:04 PM
Sheesh...suddenly NY, once I got my permit, don't look so bad...

Taipei Personality
October 12, 2006, 02:27 PM
Yep, all of that is correct. The "terror of the public" clause is dependent on your location within NC.

I don't know about other airports, but the entire grounds of RDU are posted as no carry.

Any property owner can bar CCW by simply slapping up a small "circle/slash" sticker.

In addition to state parks, city property is usually banned as well.

Overall, not great but it beats the alternative. NC is, after all, still an eastern state and pretty "sheeplish."

Let us know where you're going to be and we can give better details. There are vast differences between Chapel Hill, Durham, Raleigh, and Charlotte, to say nothing of the freer western part of the state, excepting Charlotte.

Selfdfenz
October 12, 2006, 03:16 PM
I think TX is better than NC but both are too restrictive.

A plus in NC is that you can possess a firearm in your auto as long at it is in clear sight and no permit is required to do that. The issue regarding possession at airports in private autos now has me wondering about that however.

Untill recently in TX there was that foolish traveling or directly to/from a shooting range caviat.

S-

Tim Burke
October 12, 2006, 04:11 PM
The CCW laws in NC are less than ideal.
OTOH, when I moved here in '93, there was no CCW.
I will say I've never heard of anyone with a CCW being harassed over a gun, but maybe I just need to get out more.

Helmetcase
October 12, 2006, 04:44 PM
Hmm....the Outer Banks is a big state park isn't it? Does that mean when I CCW'ed there last summer I was breaking the law?

SamTuckerMTNMAN
October 12, 2006, 04:55 PM
As long as you are respectful and seem to be upholding the culture of the community you are in there shouldn't be too much of a problem. A lot of our LE personnel here are supportive of gun owners and generally friendly. Of course, I live in the mountains where random blasts from all calibers and guages can be heard from time to time over the hills. But in practice, NC isn't too bad of a place for free men, women, and their families.:)

Helmetcase
October 12, 2006, 05:10 PM
Yeah, as a general rule I do tend to cavort and carouse and cause problems and a general commotion, but when packing I'm a bit more discrete. :D As I figure we all are.

Armed polite society. :cool:

romma
October 12, 2006, 05:37 PM
Overall, not great but it beats the alternative. NC is, after all, still an eastern state and pretty "sheeplish."
I can carry almost anywhere in Ct. ;)

RNB65
October 12, 2006, 06:01 PM
Hmm....the Outer Banks is a big state park isn't it? Does that mean when I CCW'ed there last summer I was breaking the law?

No and Yes. The Outer Banks is one big National Park owned by the Dept of the Interior and operated by the National Park Service. And yes, you were breaking the law as the NPS bans guns in National Parks.

Taipei Personality
October 12, 2006, 06:49 PM
I can carry almost anywhere in Ct.


Yeah, but isn't Connecticut known as "The Idaho of the East"? :p

Helmetcase
October 12, 2006, 06:58 PM
Man, North Carolinians...you're better off than we are here, but you have work to do! Get on it.

dance varmint
October 12, 2006, 08:02 PM
Don't go shopping at the Mast General Store in Asheville; crime is welcomed there by sign.

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