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themic
May 15, 2003, 07:47 PM
just curious...

wondering if anyone sells sights like the Steyr triangle style?

no guns i'd put em on right now, but possibly in the future, and the topic has caught my mind

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arinvolvo
May 16, 2003, 07:32 AM
iwould have to say that the sights on my Steyr are my favorite of any pistol I have ever fired...

They are dovetailed in...not sure if they are an industry standard dovetail...Like a SIG or something...But if you could find out what other guns they fit, you could possibly just order a set from the US importer of Steyr...

And of course, I have no idea who that is now...I think it may be RWS...

Flashpoint
May 16, 2003, 12:39 PM
You're on of those WIERD people that like those odd trapizoidal sites.:scrutiny:







































Me too :neener:
I'd put them on my P89 if I could.

michiganfan
May 16, 2003, 01:07 PM
I got a Steyr 357 Sig and Ilove the sights. They just seem to align automatically.

oogee
May 16, 2003, 04:21 PM
those sights are patented and could only be found on styer made weapons (at least for now).

Leibster
May 16, 2003, 06:59 PM
Just curious--what is it about the sights that cause you to feel so partial to them?

--Leibster

Zundfolge
May 16, 2003, 07:50 PM
Every once in a while one of the guys here swaps out their Triangle/Trapazoid sights for standard 3 dot sights.

Some have posted their old Steyr sights for sale here.

I'd love to pick up a set to put on my MK40, but frankly don't have the extra cash (I imagine installation would cost a little bit)

bandaidman
May 16, 2003, 09:01 PM
i have never seen the trapezoidal sites for sale

i almost did not buy a steyr because of them

now i love them and find them very easy to use...wish they had tritium inserts....

arinvolvo
May 17, 2003, 01:42 AM
Leibster...The trapezoidal sights of the steyr seem to align themselves automatically...

It is harder to MISS, than to hit what you are aiming at...I dont know why, but they make aiming the steyr a pleasure...

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=279156

C. H. Luke
May 18, 2003, 12:09 PM
FWIW, the Steyr Traps aren't compatible with any standard rear dovetail.

SouthpawShootr
May 18, 2003, 05:38 PM
Isn't THAT just typical.

arinvolvo
May 18, 2003, 06:54 PM
Cool hand.....that stinks....As much as I love the steyr, I hate companies that make proprietary stuff, and then dont make any accessories for it...Just like the stupid Steyr access. rail....where in the world did they get that design? And who is going to make a tac light or laser for it?

C. H. Luke
May 19, 2003, 05:57 PM
"Just like the stupid Steyr access. rail....where in the world did they get that design?"

Arin,

Man, Do I hear ya there!

Handy
May 19, 2003, 06:26 PM
Interesting that the Steyr sights are patented.

I was looking at an old Mauser HSc the other day - same set up. The only difference being the front sight not coming to a point (it was a rhombus).

Leibster
May 20, 2003, 07:01 PM
Handy,

The Steyr sights are patented, but it's only a "design patent", not a "utility patent". A design patent simply patents the looks of somthing. Most likely, their design is just different enough from the Mauser's to qualify.

I know this because I patented a new type of fast acquisition handgun sight. It's going to be hitting the market soon, and it also uses a triangular concept. (It will be marketed by TRUGLO, but the sights are not fiber optic.)

Unlike the Steyr sight, or standard notch and post sights, the tips of the front and rear sights are not aligned. Instead, the front sight is visually "stacked" on top of the rear sight, forming a triangle. The tip of the triangle is point of impact.

If you guys like the Steyr sight, there's a good chance you'll like this one, too. Initially it ought to be availalbe for Glocks, Sigs, and XDs, with more models to follow.

I'll attach a photo of what the sight picture looks like.


--Leibster

Triad
May 20, 2003, 09:58 PM
Leibster, interesting idea for those sights. Will they be available in night sight config?
BTW, that looks like a Glock in the pic, if so, what's the thing that looks like a hex head screw on the rear of the slide?

SouthpawShootr
May 20, 2003, 10:20 PM
These sights look promising. If you can manage a reasonably low profile, sold!

Be sure and let us know when they become available.

Leibster
May 20, 2003, 11:22 PM
Thanks for the feedback, guys!

Triad,
Actually, it's an XD9 in the picture, which explains the hex screw. It's part of the cover that holds the cocking indicator and the firing pin assembly, I think.

SouthpawShootr,
there is a night sighted version in the works. It takes a lot longer than I'd like it to, since the NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission) must approve each new sight design, and for something that's markedly different than a standard sight--like the SureSight--it will probably be a while.

As far as a low profile, the front sight is actually taller than most standard sights, but because it tapers to a point, I have not yet found a holster that does not fit it. Also, though they don't look it, they really are snag resistant. I designed them with angles that make it virtually impossible for them to get hung up on clothing, holsters, etc.

My goal in designing them was to make a usable set of sights for precision work that could be crudely aimed when the primary focus of your eye is on the threat, not the sights. Based on lots of research, and some experience, this is the overwhelming involuntary human response in a lethal force encounter.

While I believe them to be very good self defense sights, I have used them in competition, and for me (I'm biased, of course) they were a whole lot faster than 3-dot notch & post type sights.

--Leibster

SouthpawShootr
May 20, 2003, 11:46 PM
I'm not too concerned with night sights. The only reason my Glocks wear Meps is that I positively hate the factory sights! They just don't work well for me.

Now back to your design. I think I'd buy a set when they become available and give them a whirl. If I like them, you'd probably see me buying more. I hope you're going to tell me they'll be available soon.

Leibster
May 21, 2003, 01:26 AM
SouthpawShootr,

It's nice to see your enthusiasm. I don't have an exact ETA for the availability of the sights, but we expect around 3 months.

--Leibster

Triad
May 21, 2003, 04:38 AM
Do you have an idea of how much the sights will cost when they're available?

Leibster
May 21, 2003, 10:10 AM
I believe they are going to retail in the $40-$60 range.

--Leibster

jaylsb
May 21, 2003, 10:23 AM
Will they be available for the P99??? :D :D :D

Leibster
May 21, 2003, 10:47 AM
Could be, depending on demand. I believe it's going to be available first for Glocks, Sigs and Springfield XDs, which have the same dovetails as Sigs.

More models will become available over time.

--Leibster

seeker_two
May 21, 2003, 11:55 AM
Those sights look good...:cool:

I'm still waiting for SOMEONE to market the Guttersnipe sights for modern pistols. Would be easy to remove the front & rear sights & drift in the Guttersnipes in a rear dovetail. And the sight picture is incredible!

If wishes were fishes...:rolleyes:

Leibster
May 21, 2003, 03:46 PM
I'm still waiting for SOMEONE to market the Guttersnipe sights for modern pistols. Would be easy to remove the front & rear sights & drift in the Guttersnipes in a rear dovetail.

Wouldn't the seriously decreased sight radius hinder accuracy?

--Leibster

seeker_two
May 21, 2003, 04:16 PM
Not in a combat situation. The first time I saw one was at a gun show in Houston. I didn't think too much of it until the owner of an original S&W ASP pistol showed me how to use it. It's almost like using a scope. You look through the sight to see what you're aiming at. The sight helps "funnel" your focus to where you can't help but aim at the target. Makes the sight radius inconsequential.

It's not a target sight by any means. But, for a less-than-25-yd. combat pistol sight, it's hard to beat. I'd love to have one for my Firestar and 1911.

If you ever see an ASP pistol on display, try it. You'll see what I mean...:cool:

Leibster
May 21, 2003, 04:25 PM
Just curious;

Have you actually fired a gun with a guttersnipe sight on it, or have you just handled them? Untill now, I don't recall ever hearing anything positive about them.

--Leibster

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