Great editorial cartoon concerning school shootings


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Warren
October 13, 2006, 05:14 PM
Found at the Onion of all places. So i don't know if the artist considers it satire or not.
I love it though, it is exactly right.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/54073


http://www.theonion.com/content/node/54073

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birddog
October 13, 2006, 05:18 PM
That's great! Thanks for the post.

AJ Dual
October 13, 2006, 05:19 PM
Yeah, it's satire. Notice the kids sidearms?

They're missing the point though.

Armed teachers isn't about deterrence/prevention, it's about mitigation.

Justin
October 13, 2006, 05:26 PM
You can bet it's meant to be a satire on the "arm teachers" meme.

However, it doesn't strike me as being terribly snarky.

Warren
October 13, 2006, 05:27 PM
Yeah, everybody is carrying SA sixguns. Maybe that was the easiest gun type to get across in a drawing.

And it might be the best choice for school kids. A gun that can only go off if the hammer is thumbed back, carried with the hammer down on an empty chamber. For a group of people who run around a lot and run into things and each other it might be the safest way to carry.

PlayboyPenguin
October 13, 2006, 05:29 PM
Pretty cute...I would have preffered it was just the teacher armed and not the kids. The kids being armed will overwhelm the point when someone on the fence reads it.

Plus, I think it would have been able to have dual meaning if the teacher alone was armed. She would be ruler of her class and defender if need arises.

Sistema1927
October 13, 2006, 06:03 PM
My Dad used to take a Winchester '06 to elementary school and prop it in the corner at the back of the room along with his lunch each day so that he could shoot squirrels on the way home. During WWII this was a good way to supplement the family meat ration.

I used to take rifles/shotguns to High School and had them displayed openly in a rack in my pickup window. I also use to check out an M14 (with "da switch") from the ROTC arms room for drill, etc. or a .22 match rifle for practice at lunch or after school.

Arm the kids? Why not? (with parental approval, of course). I was using firearms UNSUPERVISED at age 11, but this is because I started using them at age 8 with training and supervision.

Crosshair
October 13, 2006, 07:23 PM
Link doesn't work for me.:confused:

MatthewVanitas
October 13, 2006, 07:32 PM
It's definitely a satire.

Look at the other cartoons linked on the page: they're all meant to be send-ups of "Right Wing American" values.

You occasionally get articles or cartoons that are good for both sides though, and this cartoon is close to being one. If they'd left the guns off the kids, I'd say it'd be a total "Is it a vase or two faces?" cartoon.

I absolutely loved the Onion article about Brer Rabbit tricking Bush into signing a gun control bill, especially this part:

Known to have outsmarted such adversaries as a fox, a wolf, and a bear, the rabbit is also believed to have tricked U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) into thinking that the sun was still down so that the animal could swipe vegetables from his refrigerator in May. The rabbit is also the prime suspect in the infamous April incident in which U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) lodged her head in the knot of a persimmon tree.

Follow link to "Devious Rabbit Tricks Bush Into Signing Gun Ban": http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30622

-MV

Hoppy590
October 13, 2006, 08:53 PM
dude. its the onion. the internets number one fake news source!. regardless of politics, read some of thier stuff. HILARIOUS

Standing Wolf
October 13, 2006, 09:15 PM
Works for me.

Axman
October 13, 2006, 09:58 PM
I liked the cartoon, especially the eager expressions on the children!!!:)

DoubleTapDrew
October 13, 2006, 10:47 PM
I like it!
I'd like to see an in depth analysis of the parents of these kids that shoot up schools. I grew up with guns and had access to them, as did millions of Americans for the past couple centuries and we didn't have these problems.

JohnKSa
October 13, 2006, 11:06 PM
Not to get too serious about a cartoon, but it's wrong.

NOTHING will dissuade the "sickos" from trying to cause mayhem. They're not guided by rational reasoning processes from what I've seen. That means that the prospect of death isn't going to be a deterrent as the cartoon suggests. After all, most of these snafus are murder-suicides.

It's not about making schools less attractive to the "sicko", it's about very rapidly incapacitating the "sicko" as soon as he makes his intentions obvious.

Arming teachers (or at least having armed personnel providing some level of protection) makes sense, but implying that their presence alone will serve as a deterrent is missing the mark IMO.

PlayboyPenguin
October 13, 2006, 11:42 PM
After all, most of these snafus are murder-suicides.
Damn you...how dare you bring up a good point. Especially one I had not considered yet. :)

default
October 14, 2006, 12:21 AM
I had mixed feelings about this one when it came out this week. The "Kelly" cartoons in The Onion are usually hilarious, just-exaggerated-enough-to-be-funny sendups of that heavy-handed populist style of political cartoons with crude artwork, every character and object conspicuously labeled so that the point could not possibly be missed, with a little commentary in the corner by the cartoonist, and so on. In fact, they are authentic-looking enough that many people not familiar with The Onion's approach might not be blamed for thinking they were "real". So, yes, it's a satire on the idea of arming teachers, just in not as obvious or grotesque a style as is usually found in The Onion.

Don Gwinn
October 14, 2006, 05:15 PM
SATIRE, people. SATIRE.

carpettbaggerr
October 14, 2006, 05:29 PM
For the link impaired:

scout26
October 14, 2006, 05:32 PM
NOTHING will dissuade the "sickos" from trying to cause mayhem. They're not guided by rational reasoning processes from what I've seen. That means that the prospect of death isn't going to be a deterrent as the cartoon suggests. After all, most of these snafus are murder-suicides.

It's not about making schools less attractive to the "sicko", it's about very rapidly incapacitating the "sicko" as soon as he makes his intentions obvious.

I have to respectfully disagree. Yes, nothing will dissuade they from trying to cause mayhem, but the main reason these "sickos" pick schools is precisely the reason that they don't pick gunstores or police stations for their homocidial/suicidal rampages. They may know that, yes in the end they're going to die, but in the meantime they are going to take alot of innocents with them before they go, that's what they want.

If we "Harden the Target" (i.e. allow CCW for Teachers who choose to be trained and armed.), then the schools are less inviting targets for the "sickos." Ask the Isrealis.

And anyone who thinks that Al-Qaeda and the other terrorist groups weren't watching/taking notes, is just fooling themselves.

280PLUS
October 14, 2006, 08:03 PM
Weren't TOO long ago a ten YO boy would bring his little rifle to school for a little squirrel huntin' afterwards. Somewhere along the way we lost that path...

the 22 junkie
October 14, 2006, 09:42 PM
Sounds like the Onion is reltively pro-gun by reading some of the stuff on their site:
Nation Shocked By Pre-Natal Shooting

April 12, 2000 | Issue 36•13

ALBUQUERQUE, NM–Investigators are trying to determine what led an unborn child to fatally shoot his twin with a .38-caliber revolver during an altercation in their shared Albuquerque womb Monday.

Enlarge ImageNation Shocked By Pre-Natal Shooting

An Albuquerque Police Department ultrasound depicting the fetal fatality.

According to police, the twins' mother, Evelyn Alpert, 34, was awakened at 4 a.m. by the sensation of a scuffle in her uterus, which she dismissed as "routine kicking." Approximately 30 minutes later, Alpert heard and felt three pistol shots.

A subsequent forensic ultrasound revealed that the unborn gunman–identified as a five-inch-tall male Caucasian of slight build with no eyes or hair–shot his brother twice in what eventually would have become his heart.

After a tense four-hour standoff, the unborn gunman threw out his weapon when police threatened to induce labor. Police spokesmen have denied that the use of tear gas or forced C-section was ever considered. Alpert was unharmed in the shooting, with two of the bullets lodging themselves in the victim and the third passing harmlessly through the birth canal.

The shooter has yet to emerge from the crime scene, but a court-appointed lawyer has said that the fetus will surrender himself peacefully upon his post-partum separation from Alpert sometime in early October.

"This whole tragic chain of events is hard to comprehend," Albuquerque mayor Jim Baca said. "Where did we as a community fail these unborn boys? Could their parents have done a better job of conceiving, carrying, and pre-natally educating them? And how did the fetus get access to firearms?"

Enlarge ImageNation Shocked By Pre-Natal Shooting jump

The scene of the crime.

Police officials say the shooter used a revolver registered to his father, Lee Alpert, who may have left the firearm within reach of his wife's womb. No charges have been filed against the man at press time.

According to Albuquerque D.A. Eugene Billups, though the assailant is legally recognized as a fetus, he will be tried as an infant. Pretrial hearings begin next week, and ultrasound technicians will not be allowed in the courtroom.

"This is hard to take," Billups told reporters. "These kids were no more than babies."

Offering the Alpert family "my deepest sympathy and support in this difficult time," President Clinton said he is redoubling his efforts to pass tougher obstetric gun-control legislation.

"Last year, I called upon Congress to require trigger locks on handguns and place metal detectors at the entrance of every womb," Clinton said at a White House press conference. "Such laws may well have saved the life of that unborn child. I now ask Congress to do the right thing and pass that legislation, as well as a measure extending the waiting period for firearms beyond nine months. We must keep handguns out of the unformed hands of our nation's fetuses."
The fetus, following the advice of his attorney, has offered no comment on the shooting.

JohnKSa
October 14, 2006, 11:40 PM
...the main reason these "sickos" pick schools is precisely the reason that they don't pick gunstores or police stations for their homocidial/suicidal rampages. ...

If we "Harden the Target" (i.e. allow CCW for Teachers who choose to be trained and armed.), then the schools are less inviting targets for the "sickos." Ask the Isrealis.

And anyone who thinks that Al-Qaeda and the other terrorist groups weren't watching/taking notes, is just fooling themselves.The reasons "sickos" pick schools for school shootings are:

1. They're kids mad at their teachers/classmates/etc.
2. They're nuts who want to kill kids.

Bottom line, people pick schools because they want to kill the people in the schools. Arming people in the schools won't change the selection process although it could have a distinctively positive effect in stopping attacks rapidly.

Terrorists select targets for very different reasons and using very different criteria than the sort of disturbed people who typically perpetrate school shootings. Maybe terrorists will realize that schools are good targets, but if they do, it's going to take more than a teacher with a pistol to do any good.

Think about how effective arming people in the World Trade Center would have been in preventing those attacks.

I'm CERTAINLY not arguing against arming teachers--I think that there are tangible benefits to that approach. I just don't think that deterrence is high on the list of benefits when you take into account the kind of person perpetrating this sort of atrocity.

saspic
October 15, 2006, 11:57 PM
Definately satire...some of those "Major Arteries" and "Stopping Points" are just wrong.

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