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they call me bob
October 15, 2006, 02:35 PM
i decided i want to get a .22 lr semi-automatic pistol. I just want something to carry and i am not concerned about a bigger caliber. I want a decent looking pistol, that has high reliability, good accuracy, and has a high magazine capacity of at least 15.

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MachIVshooter
October 15, 2006, 02:42 PM
and has a high magazine capacity of at least 15.

There are currently zero rimfire pistols with such capacity. 7-10 is what you'll find.

they call me bob
October 15, 2006, 02:44 PM
oh that sucks :( what other kind of calibers are made with atleast a 12 round capacity that are cheap!!!

Onmilo
October 15, 2006, 02:44 PM
A Walther PPK is most likely the best rimfire defense pistol on the market.
High quality, hard to find, and expensive when you do.

The Lone Haranguer
October 15, 2006, 02:49 PM
I assume this is to be a defensive sidearm against human attack?

I am unable to recall any .22 rimfire pistols with such high capacity. The Ruger .22s (Mark III or 22/45) hold 10 rounds and are reliable and accurate; one of these with no more than a 4.5" barrel should meet your needs size-wise -- if not caliber-wise. ;)

they call me bob
October 15, 2006, 02:53 PM
oh k i was just hoping to get a cheap lil .22 for $100 that had like 15 rounds, but in the case that i can't i can get a hi-point for $100 with a standard 8 round magazine + 10 rounds magazines are available. my friend has been tellnig me about the hi-points he has a .45 and a 9mm and they both feed +p hp's(gold dots)all day. so i guess i'll just get the hi-point. thx for ur opinions and help. if anyone finds a cheap gun with more then 12 rounds tell me plz.(especially one that looks better then a hi-point :p)

denfoote
October 15, 2006, 03:17 PM
Bud's gun shop has the Ruger P95 for $307.38.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21_49_75

You can pick up a Kel-Tec P11 for about $250. It accepts S&W series 59 mags.

This is about as low as you are gunna find a QUALITY handgun!!!!

I've had a Hi-Point and I ended up burying it somewhere in the vast Sonoran desert.

MachIVshooter
October 15, 2006, 03:34 PM
oh k i was just hoping to get a cheap lil .22 for $100

'bout the only thing I'd consider in that price range is the Pheonix HP-22. They run about $115 and are decent, but will show significant wear on the alloy components after a few thousand rounds. I have one with both the 3" and 5" barrels and it is a fun little gun, but I wouldn't trust my life to it. After about 2 bricks, the slide-mounted safety started engaging during firing, so I superglued it "off". I also diasbled the mag safety. I consider the HP-22 a plinker.

If you want a quality rimfire mousegun, I'd go with the Beretta Bobcat. But .25 ACP will be more reliable than .22 LR.

what other kind of calibers are made with atleast a 12 round capacity that are cheap!!!

For a new gun, the bottom line for one you can trust your life with is about $250-$300 for the little Kel-Tec's or Taurus PT-111. They are both 10+1 9mm's. IIRC, the only compacts with 12 or more round capacity are the Beretta 9000S 9mm (12+1) or 84FS/Browning BDA .380 (13+1). 9000S will be ~$400, 84 FS over $500. There may be a couple other hi-cap compacts, but they won't be any cheaper.

phantomak47
October 15, 2006, 03:40 PM
Below Mouse Gun allert!!!!!!!!!!!


What are you planning on defending yourself against? Small vermain???


Friends dont let friends carry carry Sub- Mouse gun calibers, I dont know you but I still care. Please some 380 guy talk him out of a .22!!!! I am a 9mm/.38 min. guy.

MICHAEL T
October 15, 2006, 03:48 PM
Spend a couple 100 bucks and get a 9mm P-11 keltec or a 380 KT You don't need 10+ rounds for SD . If you do should have brought a AR -15 or a few marines.

MatthewVanitas
October 15, 2006, 03:48 PM
Almost nobody will tell you to carry a .22 if it is at all possible for you to carry a larger caliber.

I don't know where you are, but Bersa .380 pistols (kind of like the Walther PPK), go for $200 or so at Academy Sporting Goods. Here's a rewiew of them: http://www.gunblast.com/Bersa_Thunder380.htm

The Kel-Tec, as mentioned above, comes in the widely-available, sufficiently powerful, and very affordable 9mm round, and can be had in the low $200s new.

The Hi-Points get a lot of debate: some say they're a good buy for the $, others say they're junk. 99% of people would agree that they're too bulky for comfortable concealed carry.

Avoid the following brands like the plague: Bryco, Jennings, Raven, Phoenix, Jimenez, RG, etc. Total junk, not worth $50.

Look at it this way: even a halfway decent gun will last for decades. Unless you're living out of your car, you really want to spend the $200 or so for something decent.

You might even be able to find a good Taurus or Rossi snubby revolver for $150 or so. Solid steel and durable, if not fancy. Read the sticky at the top of the Revolver forum to learn how to check out used revolvers.

If you're going to trust your life to it, a) don't buy .22, that round is for shooting paper or squirrels b) don't buy junk. $200 isn't that much money compared to $119+tax. Knock back a few fewer beers for a month, or go a month without cable, and you'll be very glad that you bought something decent.

Good luck. Stay smart, stay safe,

-MV

PX15
October 15, 2006, 04:16 PM
FWIW:

IF I were going to carry a 22cal pistol for protection it would be my Firestorm FS22. I think I paid $228 otd, and it is amazingly accurate and extremely reliable with modern high velocity ammo..

I use mine when my bride and I are out cruising the country roads on our golf cart for feral beer cans.. It's DEADLY against non-aggressive feral beer cans. Haven't run into the "dreaded AGGRESSIVE" feral beer can yet.. (But I keep a'searching).:D


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_5295.jpg

Personally even tho I'm well pleased with my FS22 I simply don't want a rimfire 22cal pistol for personal protection.

The same pistol in a 380cal. is sold by Bersa/Firestorm and it has a great reputation too, for around $225.00.

My KelTec P11 was $225.00 and it offers 10+1 rds of 9mm +p ammo, and there is a 12 rd. mag available for those who can't stop the threat with 10+1. The P11 also costs $225-250.00 or so.

The P11 would be my "pick of the litter"..:D

Best Wishes,

J. Pomeroy

Geronimo45
October 15, 2006, 04:38 PM
Revolvers are close to your price - get a used one like these other folks say.
.22 ammunition will go bad on you a lot quicker than centerfire.
As for a cheap semi with high capacity, get a CZ 83 in .32, .380, or 9x18 Makarov. Twelve rounds in .380, 15 in .32. The guns usually go for under 400 - basically a Beretta 84 without a tip-up barrel.
A good revolver can be had for cheaper than a good semi. Less moving parts, less complicated design.

nelson133
October 15, 2006, 04:49 PM
Denfoote has been riding that High-Point story for years.
Rimfire pistols are inherently less reliable due to the feeding difficulties of rimmed cartridges in auto pistols. also, ignition is somewhat less reliable because the priming compound may not be evenly distributed. It would be my last choice for a self defense handgun.
High-Points and reliable, though crude. I have one and wouldn't carry it due to the size and the safety. But it has always worked with very little maintenance.

It's kind of pintless to tell someone to get a $200-300 pistol when thay have already stated they are looking in the $100 dolar range. People here refer to prices for used revolvers that may be true in their area, but not elsewhere. In MIchigan used gun prices tend to run higher for new and used.

JMACDONALD
October 15, 2006, 05:38 PM
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i decided i want to get a .22 lr semi-automatic pistol. I just want something to carry and i am not concerned about a bigger caliber. I want a decent looking pistol, that has high reliability, good accuracy, and has a high magazine capacity of at least 15.

Walther P22, there are new shorter mag followers that increase the mag cap to 13 rounds. - mac

phantomak47
October 15, 2006, 06:20 PM
A Walther P 22 is a highly reliable weapon that someone would trust your life on???? Wow.

Pilot
October 15, 2006, 06:25 PM
My Beretta 21A has been 100% reliable with CCI Minimags. But, it only has a 8 round capacity.

Dr.Rob
October 15, 2006, 06:31 PM
Not sure how serious the poster really is, but the P-22 is a small and concealable firearm, and unlike most small guns it's not 'cheap.'


Some I saw at today's gunshow were even shipping with a laser.

Granted it's not a Colt Woodsman with the front sight filed down, but if you wanted a packable .22, the walther is a good choice.

rbmcmjr
October 15, 2006, 07:04 PM
Going to the extreme (albeit not within the $100 limit), we have the Grendel P-30, which held 30 rounds or .22 WMR:

http://hometown.aol.com/jtjersey/Grendel/GrendelP30.jpg

There is at least one available on Guns America right now.

atblis
October 15, 2006, 08:13 PM
a 22lr revolver. I have never found a 22 auto pistol that was reliable enough for carry. This mostly has to do with the general crappiness of 22 ammo. A revolver avoids this for the most part.

MachIVshooter
October 15, 2006, 08:22 PM
Going to the extreme (albeit not within the $100 limit), we have the Grendel P-30, which held 30 rounds or .22 WMR:

I wish George would start making these things again under the Kel-Tec line, now that the AWB is dead. Pretty much a higher capacity version of the FN FIve-seveN, when one considers the nuetered 5.7x28mm ammo.

Jackal
October 15, 2006, 08:30 PM
I'm gonna get strung up for saying this, but what about a Phoenix Arms HP22? I have one with 700 rounds down the pipe with zero malfunctions.

Also, I just gotta ask. Why not a P3AT????

DRMMR02
October 15, 2006, 11:31 PM
I have a Walther P22 and it's a great little gun. I have put prolly 2000 rounds through it with no failures. I have used Federal Champion, Winchester X, CCI Mimimag, Remington HP, Federal birdshot, and CCI Stingers. All worked great. The Federal Champion is the best value though. I have heard on other forums that CCI Stingers might be too powerful for the P22 and could break the slide. But I have yet to have any problmes, though I stopped using them after I heard that. Also, many of the parts are Zinc, so Hoppes Oil can actually cause it to wear out even more. I use just a bit of RemOil every so often.

All in all, the P22 is a great purchase and worth the little extra$$.


Side question: Why don't they make hi-cap .22 mags? You could fit so many of those catridges in a magazine.

EDITED for factual content.

atblis
October 15, 2006, 11:50 PM
Zinc maybe?

Didn't see that semi auto was specified.

Most reliable 22 auto I've shot the Ruger MKII.

DRMMR02
October 16, 2006, 12:45 AM
You're right, it was zinc.

p35
October 16, 2006, 07:17 PM
There's always the Beretta 21- I like mine a lot. I actually have a Ram-Line .22 pistol with 2 15 round mags- works well, actually, but never caught on. I obviously don't advocate the .22 as a defensive round, but it's easy to rapid-fire 5-6 rounds out of that thing into a 3" circle, which would certainly make an impression. Of course, it's as big as the Ruger P97 .45 I usually use in the defensive role for choice.

bestseller92
October 16, 2006, 07:32 PM
I would not recommend anyone carry a .22 LR pistol as a CCW piece; it just doesn't have the power you need. It might do the job, but it might not. Against a drug addled crank head intent on slicing and dicing you, forget it. Go with at LEAST a .380 ACP.

sm
October 16, 2006, 08:07 PM
Just two example I know folks carry:

Old Ruger Standard MKI, and MKII. Loaded with Win X22LR and CCI Mini mags.

Now one is missing lower weak arm, and a foot on weak side, and though physically limited, will hit a ping pong ball all day long. The other one, is missing the complete weak arm, just below shoulder and only has one eye. He too will hit a ping pong ball all day long.

Snick safey off, and trigger is sweet, crisp single action. Oh, and do not think these two vets cannot reload these things either. Yes they can!

Standard Rugers are slim, and thin, these conceal real well.

Now before anyone dismisses these guns and being .22 semis, do me a favor.

Tie your weak lower leg so you cannot use it, Put weak hand in a boxing glove, and your weak arm in a sling. Put a patch over your weak eye.
To replicate arthritis - have someone whack your strong side hand, wrist forearm and upper arm - real good. I mean whack it good!

Now go get your Ultimate Shotgun with the fuzzy dice. Oh, can't handle it you say. Darn it all...

Okay, go get your SuperWhizzBang Semi Gun with WonderLoads of week and shoot it, and I mean shoot it including getting fast accurate hits, and mag changes.

Get back to me and look me in the eyeball and tell me a Standard Ruger of MKI or MKII is not a viable CCW or home defense gun.

I dare you!

deputy tom
October 16, 2006, 09:53 PM
sm hit it right on the button.tom.:D

JD_LION
October 16, 2006, 10:24 PM
You can find the Taurus PT22 used for $100.00 or NIB for $150.00
Beretta 21A Bobcat used for $150.00 or NIB just over $200.00 These are 22lr Autos for around $100.00 but no hi-cap mags:(

Lonestar
October 17, 2006, 11:23 AM
I would bump your limit up another $100 and you will have a better selection. At $200 you can get alot of good used stuff. :barf: Hipoint:barf:

WillD
October 25, 2006, 08:47 PM
walther p22 with a +3 mag follower would be your best choice

jmq4
October 25, 2006, 10:00 PM
I own a few .22lr pocket guns. Have to admit that my favorite, for no other reason then fit, finish, reliabilty is a Walther TPH. Bit more than $100-200 but eerily accurate for such a small pistol.

Dr.Rob
October 26, 2006, 04:02 AM
Another pretty choice: Beretta Model 87 Cheetah

http://products.berettausa.com/images/immagini_maxi/87_Cheetah_S_maxi.jpg

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