Letter to editor: Humans just arenít capable of using guns responsibly


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Kentak
October 15, 2006, 04:50 PM
http://www.dispatch.com/editorials-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/10/15/20061015-C6-05.html

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Bergerboy
October 15, 2006, 04:58 PM
School shootings illustrate need for gun ban
Sunday, October 15, 2006


As if the world isnít experiencing enough senseless violence, we are once again seeing a spate of school shootings in the United States. Every single one of these shooters was mentally deranged or a social misfit who believed the only solution to his problem was to take innocent hostages and kill or abuse them.

In every case, from Colorado to Pennsylvania, the shooters were armed to the teeth. They had no other combat skills. It was only their guns that allowed them to carry out their perverted plans. This reveals a basic truth: The people who think they need guns to solve their social problems are precisely the people who shouldnít have them.

Most people donít own guns and manage to live their lives without ever putting themselves in a position where they have to shoot their way out.

Itís only the nut cases who think they need guns, and then find ways to use them.

Yet still the National Rifle Association claims itís just criminals who misuse guns, and we should just enforce the existing laws. That is a totally hollow argument. You canít arrest somebody until after he commits the crime and victims are already dead. The law doesnít stop him. The only way to stop him is not to allow him to have guns in the first place. This is the reason most other civilized countries have strict gun-control laws. Humans just arenít capable of using guns responsibly. The power it gives them is too great.

Hunting season is about to start. On the first day of hunting season, a child will be shot by another hunter somewhere in Ohio. It happens every year. When will we ever learn?

PHIL MUSSER

Upper Arlington



So we should preemptively punish them? Minority Report style? And we should disarm an entire nation of people of their God-given Rights simply because bad things can happen when those Rights are abused?

And who needs deer hunting.......there's all those tasty veggies to choose from! :p

gunsmith
October 15, 2006, 05:03 PM
what an astute well thought out essay.
I'm turning in my guns right now!:neener:

orangelo
October 15, 2006, 05:19 PM
Put him in prison where guns aren't allowed. He should be all safe and sound with a total gun ban there behind bars right?

Kentak
October 15, 2006, 05:22 PM
And we should disarm an entire nation of people of their God-given Rights simply because bad things can happen when those Rights are abused?

That would seem to be the implied solution, in his mind.

K

SoCalShooter
October 15, 2006, 05:25 PM
Another sheeple raises his voice. These people will regret getting rid of weapons when the only people who have them are the government and criminals, disarm us and our votes no longer matter.

Wesker
October 15, 2006, 05:26 PM
Don't you see the glaring flaws in this guys logic? Yea, these murderers were mentally unsound and probably sociopathic, and thus a criminal after the fact. He certainly wasn't a law abiding citizen.

RobXD9
October 15, 2006, 05:30 PM
I too am convinced.

Not only am I handing in my guns before they commit a crime, I'm going to move to a civilized country that bans guns.

Let's see, do they have time share in Sudan, or Somalia?

Robert

mete
October 15, 2006, 05:30 PM
Can someone recommend a good psychiatrist for me ? I've been shooting for 50 years and haven't shot any one yet .Thre's obviously something wrong with me !

shooter503
October 15, 2006, 05:34 PM
This is another loony "Letter to the Editor". Do you folks who read the newspapers that print these letters ever write a letter in reponse or do you just whine on this site?

Get the information about highway deaths for your state, drunk driving, others and particularly children killed. Write to your newspaper saying something like:

PHIL MUSSER. from Upper Arlington thinks we have a problem in this state with children's deaths caused by firearms. Is he aware that xxxx people died in traffic accidents on the roads in this state, including xxxx children, so far in 2006. If Mr. Musser is really interested in saving children's lives, as opposed to promoting his agenda to ban firearms by cynically using the deaths of our poor children as a tool, he should transfer his attentions to drunk driving and highway safety.

Substitute "country" for "state" as appropriate.

Shweboner
October 15, 2006, 05:36 PM
Humans just arenít capable of using guns responsibly.



Thats why I keep my guns out in the dog house.:uhoh:

MachIVshooter
October 15, 2006, 06:08 PM
Most people donít own guns and manage to live their lives without ever putting themselves in a position where they have to shoot their way out.

Itís only the nut cases who think they need guns, and then find ways to use them.

Yeah, that 20 year old college girl who gets raped on her way from the library to the dorm should know better than to put herself in that position.

And the police officer who tries to stop an armed thug; he should know better too.

And the father of two who is asleep in his bed in upper middle class suburbia when a pair of violent home invaders break down his locked door and murder his family. What was he thinking putting his family in such peril.

Tommygunn
October 15, 2006, 06:10 PM
Most people donít own guns and manage to live their lives without ever putting themselves in a position where they have to shoot their way out.

Itís only the nut cases who think they need guns, and then find ways to use them.

What a sanctimonious ignoramus to figure that people who find they need to defend themselves have somehow managed to "put themselves in that position."

I guess that the 1-2 million people the Lott-Mustard study say defend themselves yearly with firearms must have somehow managed to cause themselves to be there....shame on them for becoming an irritant to the criminal class.:barf:

utahminirevolver
October 15, 2006, 06:39 PM
Phil Musser needs a history lesson focusing on the genocides of the twentieth century, from the Turkish slaughter of Armenians through the Nazi slaughter of Jews, and on to the Communist gulags and killing fields, right up to today's would be genocide leaders in Iran, al queda, North Korea, Venezuela, etc. In every case, populations were first disarmed by 'gun contol', for their own good of course.

Put Phil in a time machine back to the Warsaw Ghetto so he could tell the beleagered Jews to drop their weapons since they are incapable of using them responsibly.

gunsmith
October 15, 2006, 06:58 PM
the obvious answer is to only allow monkeys to use guns:evil:

TrybalRage
October 15, 2006, 07:02 PM
In every case, from Colorado to Pennsylvania, the shooters were armed to the teeth. They had no other combat skills. It was only their guns that allowed them to carry out their perverted plans. This reveals a basic truth: The people who think they need guns to solve their social problems are precisely the people who shouldnít have them.


Actually, the basic truth revealed is that most people in this country are sheep, and view a gun as having magical powers, which it doesn't.

We have also been brainwashed with the cunning strategy of "give them what they want and they'll go away."

carterbeauford
October 15, 2006, 07:19 PM
Humans just arenít capable of using guns responsibly. The power it gives them is too great.

In my time as a commercial truck driver, I have come to realize that many humans just aren't capable of using vehicles responsibly either, and the power drivers licenses give them is too great. Don't see anyone calling for a ban on vehicles.

Let's review this editorial:

poor logic, or total lack thereof: check
distorted views, inconsistent with reality: check
dragging the NRA into it for no apparent reason: check
comparing the USA to non-democratic countries: check
offering no solution to the problem: check

Thank God intelligent people don't take people like Mr. Musser seriously. I hardly think he is qualified to speak on what our species is capable or not capable of doing. A quick search reveals that he is a lawyer, what are the odds... maybe give him a call and ask him if he has a point, because he sure left it out of his editorial.

Philip Musser
Upper Arlington, OH
(614) 457-1447 home
(614) 451-5300 work

shortydog
October 15, 2006, 07:27 PM
This is another loony "Letter to the Editor". Do you folks who read the newspapers that print these letters ever write a letter in reponse or do you just whine on this site?

Get the information about highway deaths for your state, drunk driving, others and particularly children killed. Write to your newspaper saying something like:

PHIL MUSSER. from Upper Arlington thinks we have a problem in this state with children's deaths caused by firearms. Is he aware that xxxx people died in traffic accidents on the roads in this state, including xxxx children, so far in 2006. If Mr. Musser is really interested in saving children's lives, as opposed to promoting his agenda to ban firearms by cynically using the deaths of our poor children as a tool, he should transfer his attentions to drunk driving and highway safety.

Substitute "country" for "state" as appropriate.



believe me, there will be several responses to this letter.i just hope they print one of them.
the columbus dispatch is NOT pro gun.:mad:

bender
October 15, 2006, 07:29 PM
This is another loony "Letter to the Editor". Do you folks who read the newspapers that print these letters ever write a letter in reponse or do you just whine on this site?
hmmm.... I would think that newpapers get some "pro-gun" letters, so maybe they just decide "we aren't gonna print this..."

shooter503
October 15, 2006, 08:11 PM
The original letter appeared in the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch.

Hit this website (Columbus Dispatch) and see what happens. Not conclusive but very interesting.

http://search.dispatch.com/sp?aff=6&keywords=phil+musser

Liberal Gun Nut
October 15, 2006, 08:28 PM
He might be right. Perhaps humans aren't up to it. There's evidence to support that idea. When firearms were introduced to the Maori in New Zealand, they were almost entirely wiped out.

But firearms are here. Technology can't be undone. Some humans are going to own firearms. Those humans might be government employees, criminals, ordinary citizens, or some combination of the above. No government that I am aware of has ever voluntarily disarmed itself. Criminals always seem to get access to guns. So...

gunsmith
October 15, 2006, 08:31 PM
print the millions of progun letters they recieve.
I've written at least 500, only one ever made it on the opinion page
followed by 3 anti gun lettrs.

jazurell
October 15, 2006, 08:32 PM
In response to Phil Musser's editorial Sunday, October 15th.
Ban all guns? Cars cause more deaths, let's ban them, except for government use, of course. Cigarettes cause cancer death. Let's ban them, people are responsible enough to not smoke. Athletes occasionally fall over dead, let's ban sports too.
I have a better idea, let's just ban all crime and bad happenings, then people will live in peace and harmony. Guns won't do harm, cars won't cause death, and people, of course won't smoke, and athletes won't die.

Alex45ACP
October 15, 2006, 08:33 PM
Humans just arenít capable of using guns responsibly. The power it gives them is too great.

Well then, I'll give mine up as soon as all government agents give theirs up.

longeyes
October 15, 2006, 08:35 PM
Humans just arenít capable of using guns responsibly. The power it gives them is too great.

What he really means is:

Humans just aren't capable of using political liberty responsibly. The power it gives them is too great.

Long live the King!

DerringerUser
October 15, 2006, 08:35 PM
Thats nice. He can have his opinions about these things, but my gun rights arent up for grabs, sorry.

glennv
October 15, 2006, 08:55 PM
I can't wait until the time comes when this guy needs a gun.

These antis are the same a-holes that will give their 16-year-old kids the keys to their 4000lb killer SUVs.

shooter503
October 15, 2006, 09:15 PM
http://search.dispatch.com/sp?aff=6&keywords=phil+musser

Could it be?

Standing Wolf
October 15, 2006, 09:31 PM
I spent several hours this afternoon helping two more people qualify for concealed carry permits.

That's my response to statist parasites.

carterbeauford
October 15, 2006, 09:55 PM
Ummm, unless my understanding of the law is wrong, the law is not designed to "prevent" ANYTHING from happening. It simply sets a standard for punishment should you commit that act.

Yup. The sad thing is, Mr. Musser has a degree in the stuff.

gezzer
October 15, 2006, 10:04 PM
Hunting season is about to start. On the first day of hunting season, a child will be shot by another hunter somewhere in Ohio. It happens every year

Pulled out of thin air as usual and the press lets it go.

SoCalShooter
October 15, 2006, 10:09 PM
gezzer: you know that the press's job is not to validate or support or make sure of any type of accuracy or evidence, it is only their job to report the ramblings of ignorant people and when facts and evidence are provided to dismiss them as partisan hackery or trickery.

Warren
October 15, 2006, 10:14 PM
Is it The High Road to print someone's phone number without their consent?

Kentak
October 15, 2006, 11:06 PM
Is it The High Road to print someone's phone number without their consent?

That bothers me, too. This is a letter to the editor written as a private person, not as journalist or public official.

Besides, there is no way of knowing for sure the phone numbers given are for the writer of the letter, or someone who shares the same name.

The purpose of my linking the letter here was to provide information about the kind of sentiments are are being put forth in the media as it relates to timely legal and political issues of RKBA. The letter gives the views of one individual, but those views are likely shared by many others, and it's important to be familiar with them in order to counter them effectively.

K

carterbeauford
October 16, 2006, 12:29 PM
Is it The High Road to print someone's phone number without their consent?

Only the staff can answer that, however I felt it reasonable. If he is going to print such stupidity in the public domain then he is fair game IMO. If he wanted privacy he should have used his initials.

DRMMR02
October 16, 2006, 12:35 PM
I guess this means we're all non-humans....


COOL:D Can I be an alien?

progunner1957
October 16, 2006, 12:43 PM
Another prime example of the intellectual masturbation that is the holy grail of the leftist/socialist political worldview.

This genius says humans should not be allowed to have guns. It would be interesting to see a world where the police and military are tasked with protecting sheeple like him with pointy sticks.

As for me, I think I'll pass on that experiment, thanks just the same. I'm a human; I have guns. Guess what? Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than all my guns combined.

What a myopic idiot this guy is.

shooter503
October 16, 2006, 12:47 PM
If, and I emphasize IF, this is the same Phil Musser he gave away his right to privacy by entering a public forum, the newspaper letter column. His corporate and home information are readily available to the public on the internet.

Perhaps more significantly, a Phil Musser, apparently from the Columbus area, is the Executive Director of the Republican Governors Association. There may be a name mixup but I would certainly be interested to know if this is the same person.

If Mr. Musser's association with the RGA is real it rather shoots down Progunners anti-liberal/left tirade doesn't it.

Kentak
October 16, 2006, 02:48 PM
Perhaps more significantly, a Phil Musser, apparently from the Columbus area, is the Executive Director of the Republican Governors Association. There may be a name mixup but I would certainly be interested to know if this is the same person.

If you had checked just a little further you would have found that one is Philip S., and the other is Philip A.

K

Ezekiel
October 16, 2006, 03:20 PM
The people who think they need guns to solve their social problems are precisely the people who shouldnít have them.

Truer words have never been said.

Of course, he pre-supposes that all who possess guns consider them the answer to society's ills and will act accordingly.

The original statement is still true, but the APPLICATION needs to be scrutinized. :(

Axman
October 16, 2006, 03:33 PM
You can’t arrest somebody until after he commits the crime and victims are already dead. The law doesn’t stop him.
If someone threatens you, call the cops! They'll just tell you there was no crime committed and there's nothing they can do. It's perfectly legal to threaten someone's life but the threat can be used against the assailant after the fact.


The only way to stop him is not to allow him to have guns in the first place.
...or arm the victim!

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