A few weeks ago I was taking my daughter for a walk around our semi-rural neighborhood in her stroller like I do most every day. As we were passing a tote road I noticed one of our friendly neighborhood furry woodland creatures standing in the middle of the tote road. Now normally this would not be unusual and I would have pointed it out to my daughters delight. However this normally reclusive creature was out and about in the middle of the afternoon just sort of wandering aimlessly and swaying it’s head slightly as it moved. Now, anyone who has spent any amount of time outdoors knows that while this is not necessarily a reason to panic, you should none the less give it wide birth, especially when you have a baby girl to watch out for.
The next time we went for our walk I stowed a small 22 rifle under her stroller and it has been there ever since.
This seemed perfectly natural to me but my wife said something to the effect of a “Mad Max, road warrior baby stroller” which I of course found quite amusing. I said that that didn’t count unless I added some armor plateing. :D :evil:
Any way, I am just wondering if anyone else has a strangely dedicated firearm.
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October 16, 2006, 11:21 AM
I wouldn't put the rifle IN the stroller with the baby. Not unless you never take your eyes off it, because older little kids could run up and do a "what's this?" when you're not paying attention... it's a firearm out of your immediate control unless you never take your eyes off the stroller. :scrutiny:
More likely just carry a Jetfire or something in a pocket.
October 16, 2006, 11:33 AM
stowed a small 22 rifle under her stroller
Sounds like a pretty good idea to me.
Boy scout motto, and all that. :)
October 16, 2006, 11:37 AM
Ditto what Manedwolf said; I think you'd be better served with an on-body handgun than a rifle in the stroller.
Another concern for me would be baby's hearing if you do need to fire.
October 16, 2006, 12:39 PM
No no no, a proper baby cart needs:
1: spears that come out the handles
2: Metal plating to protect sides from gunfire
3: a giant "pepperbox" style gun covering the entire bottom of the cart
damn, I love that series :)
On a serious note, I wouln't leave a rifle in the stroller either. Just CCW a decent pistol and you are covered against animal threats.
October 16, 2006, 12:48 PM
Another concern for me would be baby's hearing if you do need to fire
That worries the heck out of me when I'm packing and with my daughter (such as I am when I tow her around in her Burly trailer).
In the end, I rationalize it with the understanding that shots fired are in defense of life: mine, hers, or her mom's. In that situation, hearing damage is a secondary concern.
October 16, 2006, 12:49 PM
okay, allow me to elaborate. The rifle is not in with the baby. We have a large modular baby stroller. The rifle is standing muzzel down in the cargo compartment with the butt comming out up near the handle at the back of the carraige. (Yes the muzzel is protected by something soft.) It is loaded with SSS rounds which are not much louder from that gun than a mouse fart but I know from experiance that they are more than capable of taking small-medium game out to 50 yards.
I never leave the stroller or my daughter unattended while we are out and nobody comes close enough to be a problem. We are out for a walk, not stopping anywhere untill we get back home.
Also, I do always carry a hand gun but I thought that my .357 was a bit of overkill for the job. It would deffinately freak out the neighbors and I also thought of my daughters hearing. Hence the .22 SSS.
October 16, 2006, 01:05 PM
just drop the .45 in the diaper bag:rolleyes:
October 16, 2006, 01:29 PM
October 16, 2006, 01:41 PM
Speaking as a country boy, you probably had good reason to be concerned.
Any nocturnal animal that is out and about in the daytime is cause for immediate concern. Raccoons...Foxes...Bats...and especially any wild animal
that seems to show no fear or exhibits what appears to be mild curiosity...
is a big red flag. Rabies tends to reverse an animal's natural behavior, making
wild animals tame and unafraid...even friendly. I've seen foxes approach, tail wagging like a dog's...and turn into snarling mini-Cujos when they get within striking distance. This behavior usually appears just before the "Furious" or final stages of the disease, and often within hours of death. This is when they're most dangerous. A snarling, snapping Ringtail Racoon frightens people and they maintain a distance. One that appears friendly and playful evokes responses of "Awwwww. How cute! C'mere little fella!"
October 16, 2006, 01:42 PM
Sounds like you've thought it through. A .22 wouldn't cause serious hearing damage unless it was right next to her ear when you shot, and the rifle will give you better accuracy than your hand-cannon for small critters. :)
October 16, 2006, 01:54 PM
Good clarification, and upon reflection, I agree with your reasoning.
Carry on! ;)
October 16, 2006, 01:55 PM
I'd never given a baby stroller gun much thought; but now I'm thinking...
a semi auto 22lr with a high cap mag and if your state permits a silencer, (to save the childs ears of course). Thinking Ruger 10/22, folding stock, with a 50 round mag, maybe a few extra mags for back up, never know when rabid racoons will pack up and begin attacking.
on a second thought a 22lr pistol and a 1 liter soda bottle packed with some fiberglass insulation might do the trick too.
How much ammo does the average person carry in thier stroller?
October 16, 2006, 02:35 PM
What kind of animal was it?
October 16, 2006, 02:45 PM
I agree with the .22 rifle idea, unless you have concerns of larger rabid/dangerous animals than raccoon/fox sized, in which case you might want something bigger.
A lot easier to safely/cleanly dispatch a rabid skunk with a rifle than a pistol.
If your neighborhood is rural enough you could get your daughter some hearing protection and do some plinking while you're strolling - start her out young.
October 16, 2006, 03:30 PM
Stand_Watie My daughter is only 10 months old and my wife insists that i wait untill she is at least a year old before I let her start shooting :D
mikeburk101 it was a grey fox
pax thank you. I am freaquently guilty of attributing to much reasoning skills to our species at large. I sometimes forget what a rare commodity common sense has become these days ;) :rolleyes:
October 16, 2006, 04:00 PM
That sounds like a good idea to me, you obviously put alot of thought into it.
any .22 rifle would work great for that, as long as it didn't have any kind of portruding pistol grip or high cap mag, (in response to previous posts) not because it would be illigal or any silly reason like that, but because it might get snagged when you went to pull it out. in particular I'd worry about loosing the mag and having to fish around for it.
If it was my choice, I'd probably go with a marlin .22 or ruger with the reliable rotary magazine. though my preference would be tubefed.
Just for the record, I'm envioius of your ability to pack a rifle around like that. sadly its not ok where I currently live.
October 16, 2006, 06:15 PM
I can't wait until the Bradies and the Million Moms find out. Twould be hilarious to hear them hyperventilate over it. If we could send a picture of the armed stroller to Rosie's house, it might just push her over the edge into a mental institution. And that would probably be good for everybody.
October 16, 2006, 06:20 PM
If possible, suppress the rifle.
October 17, 2006, 01:57 AM
And remember, they need the brain to test for rabies. :uhoh:
October 17, 2006, 02:09 AM
A tactical baby stroller, eh?
I hope Gunkid doesn't get wind of this...
October 17, 2006, 10:40 AM
I think you ought to make or get a leather scabard for it that buckles to the stroller handles.
Out here in bush and even in semi-bush Alaska you can run across dinner (ptarmigan, grouse) while out pushing a stroller. A .22 is a handy thing to have either on you or within arms reach.
October 17, 2006, 11:04 AM
I never second guess anyone who arms themselves when out with their family. I have been know to run errands and such unarmed when flying solo. With the wife and kid? You bet your sweet bippy I've got a gun.
Given the situation, a .22RF actually makes good sense. Just be sure to keep that wheelgun handy for two legged animals.
October 17, 2006, 01:42 PM
You could always get one of those 10/22 Gatling gun kits and rig up some sort of forward mount for the stroller. You'd be the pilot, your daughter would be the forward gunner. You could teach her to shoot AND enjoy a nice stroll in the country at the same time. :)
I have a running stoller that has a pocket just below the handles. I've made a habbit of packing my H&K .40 in there while running. My wife and I typically run at night. I have also thought about my daughter's hearing, should I need to use my gun.
My stoller looks to be the same model as Weimadog's. Maybe I should follow his lead.:D :D
October 18, 2006, 12:31 AM
"Mad Max, road warrior baby stroller" Hey, that's an idea for a new brand of strollers - kevlar armored, modular carrying system, rifle sheaths...
A rifle is quieter than a pistol of the same caliber, from my experience. You can get subsonic rounds... I think Remington makes one. It's louder than the CBs, but it cycles the action on my Marlin autoloader. Quieter shot than the regular LR.
For the proper defensive stroller, take a leaf out of the chariot manuals. Put knives on the wheels, a ram on the front, a bubble canopy with a gun turret...
October 18, 2006, 09:42 AM
<quote>My stoller looks to be the same model as Weimadog's. Maybe I should follow his lead. </quote>
I can't take credit for having a stroller like that. I just found the photo, and thought it looked cool.
We have a double stroller, and two sons aged 11 months and 3 1/2 years. Living in a city, a long gun on the stroller would certainly attract attention!