Halloween gun thread. What if you live in a "haunted" house


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Doug.38PR
October 17, 2006, 11:49 AM
This is a similar topic that was posted on S & T portion of THR but got closed because it strayed off topic.

Since it is getting near Halloween and since it was a fun subject, what if you live in a, so they say, haunted house. You hear creaks, footsteps, shutters slaming, doors slaming, crying, laughing and even transparent and solid appirations :what: :eek:
One question to pose, how alert would this make you to real bad guys creaking and breaking in? Would you be likely to pass it off as a ghost?

You find an intruder in your house. BANG!!!!! BANG !!!!! Two .38 LHPs....go right through the intruder and through the wall. Police respond to shots fired.
What do you tell them?:o :D I shot at someone that was actually a ghost?

LEOs, question for you. How do you file such a report? :o

I personally don't believe in ghosts, I think that there are a lot of explainations for what people think they see and hear. Something is going on in many cases, but I don't think it's the spirt of some dead person going boo!!!.

Has anyone ever had to deal with such a situation? Or do you know anyone who has had to deal with such a situation.

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Manedwolf
October 17, 2006, 11:51 AM
There was something on the news a while back about some of the National Guard troops bunked at an old girls school in New Orleans after Katrina being spooked by things, including a few reactions to intruders that turned out not to be there, and one seeing a young girl that wasn't there.

Was interesting, at least. These didn't seem like superstitious types.

And as for "What gun for ghosts", why, an backpack unlicenced nuclear accelerator, of course!

ZeSpectre
October 17, 2006, 11:55 AM
Hoo Yeah, Monster Hunting! <grin>

Sawed off double barrel.
Number One side loaded with kosher rock salt.
Number Two side loaded with "00" buck.

Trigger #1 - If it's a ghost, poof. If it's not a ghost the rock salt will still slow 'em down and you can trigger #2 :neener:

Oh and remember to have a hurricaine lantern ready 'cause ghosts always make your flashlight fizzle.

Happy Halloween!

Yakko
October 17, 2006, 12:00 PM
Actually barrell #2 should be silver, you've gotta be prepared!:D

gregthehand
October 17, 2006, 12:01 PM
As far as LEO's I have a slightly funny storry about how one dealt with "it". This comes second hand from a cop I worked with (in a past LE life) that was not prone to lie, and we had to almost beat him to get us to tell the story. The department I worked at had been contracted to be the campus police at two local school districts. One of these school had an extremely old buiding that had been built over land where even older houses had once stood. One night at about 11pm-ish this deputy was patroling inside the old school, after a game b/c kids liked to sneak into the school and do stupid stuff. He had checked out that he was in the school, and was going down the main hallway. He told me he heard someone beat a drum, and play a trumpet in a very off-tone, and loud burst. He called it into dispatch that he had a possible problem on his hands, the dispatcher closed the channel, and got some other units on the way. The deputy un-locked the door to the bandhall (it only locked from the outside) and went into the bandhall with his weapon out, and flashlight in hand. This is when it got wierd. He says that he saw a trumpet suspended in air. When he focused his flashlight on it he at first thought it was just hanging br strings or something. He said he switched on the lights of the hall and when he did the trumpet still in air, played another long off note with no one even near and in air. He turned around, turned off the light, went into the hallway, left the building, called himself back in service and said the noise was just something falling over. He new if he tried to make something out of it people would call him nuts, and never believe him! :what:

Thefabulousfink
October 17, 2006, 12:09 PM
Well If I fired at a ghost and the police were on their way, I would go down stairs and break a window or force open the back door. When the police arrive I would tell them that I was supprised in my bed and fired at the BG, the bullets didn't hit, and the BG took off (selective truth). The last thing I need is to be locked up in a psyc ward.

After the incident I would start loading up on equipment to fight ghosts (or at least keep them off my back). Holy water, blessed crucifix, rosery, and the Roman Catholic text on exorcism rites (I can't remember the exact name, but it is still in print by the Vatican).

That should cover the religious side, I would then start making silver bullets for my Webley in case non-ethereal guests show up. Salt is also considered a barrier against supernatural forces so I would use it to seal my room and also load up a few 12ga rounds with rock salt.

Now that I am armed to do battle with most supernatural forces; I would start doing research to figure out exactly what was haunting my house and what is the best way to get rid of it.

junyo
October 17, 2006, 12:09 PM
115 grain 9mm HPs, with a sterling silver jacket, and the hollow filled in with holy water soaked saw dust, and a crucifix engraved into the base. Lots of twenty round mags. Surefire daylight color balanced tac light. I'm think that anchors anything until ZeSpectre shows up with his shotgun.

Manedwolf
October 17, 2006, 12:12 PM
Bulletforge.com makes real silver bullets. :D Everything from .45 LC to .308 and 45-70.

Doug.38PR
October 17, 2006, 12:32 PM
As far as LEO's I have a slightly funny storry about how one dealt with "it". This comes second hand from a cop I worked with (in a past LE life) that was not prone to lie, and we had to almost beat him to get us to tell the story. The department I worked at had been contracted to be the campus police at two local school districts. One of these school had an extremely old buiding that had been built over land where even older houses had once stood. One night at about 11pm-ish this deputy was patroling inside the old school, after a game b/c kids liked to sneak into the school and do stupid stuff. He had checked out that he was in the school, and was going down the main hallway. He told me he heard someone beat a drum, and play a trumpet in a very off-tone, and loud burst. He called it into dispatch that he had a possible problem on his hands, the dispatcher closed the channel, and got some other units on the way. The deputy un-locked the door to the bandhall (it only locked from the outside) and went into the bandhall with his weapon out, and flashlight in hand. This is when it got wierd. He says that he saw a trumpet suspended in air. When he focused his flashlight on it he at first thought it was just hanging br strings or something. He said he switched on the lights of the hall and when he did the trumpet still in air, played another long off note with no one even near and in air. He turned around, turned off the light, went into the hallway, left the building, called himself back in service and said the noise was just something falling over. He new if he tried to make something out of it people would call him nuts, and never believe him!

There was something on the news a while back about some of the National Guard troops bunked at an old girls school in New Orleans after Katrina being spooked by things, including a few reactions to intruders that turned out not to be there, and one seeing a young girl that wasn't there.


Alright, this is what I want to hear. Good stories!! :eek:

ZeSpectre
October 17, 2006, 12:38 PM
I had completelly forgotten this story until just now.

I had been an LEO for about two years when we got a call that someone had a burgler trapped inside their house. We respond and this quiet old lady calmly answers the door and invites us inside. She asks us if we want anything to drink and we decline and then ask her if she made the call.

Well you see a lightbulb go on and she says "oh yes I forgot, I think I've got him trapped but I'm not sure". So I ask her if she has a description and she says "oh yes, the usual, red skin, horns, black eyes".

WHAT?!? :what:

"Um, maam, WHO are we talking about"?

"Oh", she says "The Devil!" I've got him trapped in the back bathroom, I think I do anyway".

Okay then :confused:

And then she leads us through this neat, quiet, little house to a back bathroom all the while telling us how "the devil" had tried to trick her but she got the drop on him and now he was trapped.

So we get to this door that is nailed shut with about 7 crosses nailed onto it and a whole row of prayer candles lined up in front. Bibles stacked to either side and rosaries (spelling? not catholic, sorry) strung across the doorway and all these bits of prayers written on the door with magic marker.

Soooo, we're more than a little spooked at this point I don't mind telling you because we're not sure WHAT the heck we're going to find on the other side of that door. At this point we call for more backup and a police chaplin as well.

Now the dispatcher wants to know why we need a chaplin so we're calling in landline to explain and then the jokes start...until the other units arrive and see just how creepy this whole situation is (we half expected to find the corpse of her dead husband or something).

The ending was pretty anticlimactic because when we opened it up all we found was a dusty half-bath that had obviously been sealed up for a few months if not years. The lady was very dissappointed that "the devil" had escaped. She was eventually taken in for a psych eval.

The two of us that responded to the call initially got grief from other officers for WEEKS! :neener:

DRMMR02
October 17, 2006, 12:52 PM
Bulletforge.com makes real silver bullets. Everything from .45 LC to .308 and 45-70.

Those appear to be just jewelry though. I wonder, can you use the projectile in a live cartridge? Would silver work properly with the rifling of the barrel?

tenbase
October 17, 2006, 12:56 PM
"Back in 1835, when Halley’s comet was overhead, the same night those men died at the Alamo, they say Samuel Colt made a gun. A special gun. He made it for a hunter - a man like us, only on horseback. The story goes, he made 13 bullets. This hunter used the gun a half dozen times before he disappeared, the gun along with him. Somehow, Daniel got his hands on it. They say.... They say this gun can kill anything."

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/4620/colt01nk8.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_%28TV_series%29)

...I gotta stop watching so much TV..

gregthehand
October 17, 2006, 12:58 PM
Um guys winchester makes silver hollow points....

Carl N. Brown
October 17, 2006, 01:17 PM
Those silvertips are just aluminum.
You shoot a werewolf and it just laughs at you.

No_Brakes23
October 17, 2006, 01:22 PM
I would think it would be obvious...

http://i11.tinypic.com/42mp1f6.jpghttp://i11.tinypic.com/33bio8l.jpg

Doug.38PR
October 17, 2006, 02:06 PM
I'm reminded of a scene in the movie Canterville Ghost (from the 1940s) in which American G.I.s are staying in the Canterville house in England and the ghost appears. One of them picks up his Thompson and lets go on the ghost only to spray the wall behind him. Haven't seen that movie in over 20 years, but I remember that scene.

Thefabulousfink
October 17, 2006, 02:07 PM
Tenbase, I love that show but that episode pissed me off.

The "COLT" as they call it is a Paterson (sp?) which was a ball and cap revolver, in the show it uses cartridges. The Paterson also was a 5-shot revolver, but in the show it's 6. Despite all that, I would like a Paterson with all that nifty engraving on it.

DRMMR02
October 17, 2006, 02:24 PM
You need the right tools for the job.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/CymPimpin/1e669330dca025ac54d36010.jpg

This is all I need:)

tenbase
October 17, 2006, 02:28 PM
The "COLT" as they call it is a Paterson (sp?) which was a ball and cap revolver, in the show it uses cartridges. The Paterson also was a 5-shot revolver, but in the show it's 6. Despite all that, I would like a Paterson with all that nifty engraving on it.

I thought it was a Walker (six shooter), but they don't really show it long enough to get a good look. But yeah, its definitely cap n' ball. The show's full of ghosts and vampires anyway, what's one more little inaccuracy :)

Doug.38PR
October 17, 2006, 02:33 PM
Amen, DRMMR02:)

This is humorously starting to stray a little off topic as being about what kind of gun to use on a ghost. That wasn't my orginal post. The original post was more about stories and incidents where ghost have been encountered, shot at and how alert to strange noises you are if you live in a supposedly haunted house that has frequently has a lot of creaks and footsteps

Manedwolf
October 17, 2006, 02:50 PM
Here's the CBS story about the Guard troops spooked at the school in New Orleans. :)

I'd also heard that the Air Force has a C-130 that's supposedly haunted by its loadmaster who was killed in Vietnam. Cargo lights will be on when the aircraft has no battery or power on, the autopilot will change its course precisely when someone isn't paying attention, and people have seen and shouted at the guy...who doesn't exist, seen around its ramp at night.

Guardsmen Sense Ghostly Presence In New Orleans
Jazz News (CBS5)

The presence of the supernatural and the influence of voodoo long have been synonymous with New Orleans.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, members of the U.S. military are saying that there's something spooky going on and it's not just images of death and destruction that's haunting them.

By all accounts, the Sophie B. Wright Middle School in New Orleans sits empty and evacuated except for military personnel who have taken over the campus as a staging site for missions around the battered city.

But the men in uniform have the feeling that they're not alone. It prompted a chaplain to utter this directive: "In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you Satan to leave the dark areas of this building."

Said Sgt. Robin Hairston of the California National Guard: "I was in my sleeping bag and I opened by eyes and in the doorway was a little girl," . "It wasn't my imagination."

Hairston wasn't the only one seeing things. Spc. Rosales Leanor had her own close encounter.

"I was using the restroom and I just saw a little shadow," Leanor said, "kind of looming in front of me."

Another member of the Guard unit said that she saw and heard a little girl laughing when she opened a closet that contained cleaning supplies.

At a Baton Rouge marina, boats were strewn like trash, but not a shred of paper could be found. Except for the pages of a Bible, which was found by a soldier. It was open to the Book of Revelations.

At a nearby church, nearly destroyed, another Bible was found, showing the exact same passage from Revelations.

Like the power of nature, there is a power at work in New Orleans that defies explanation.

TallPine
October 17, 2006, 02:56 PM
How do you know the ghost means any harm...?

Maybe it is just a family spirit (the Scots have them, you know;) ) that is sharing your abode and watching over you all.

Perhaps, instead of shooting at spooks, you should leave milk and cookies out for them??? Maybe try to talk to them and understand their point of view :p

Strings
October 17, 2006, 03:11 PM
I used to work security at a furniture fctory that had some... oddities about it. You'ld hear glass breaking, but couldn't find any broken wondows, see twin red glowing points of light in the shadows (with nothing there to account for 'em), hear voices occassionally (the site supervisor got into an arguement with one one night, until he realized there really wasn't anyone else there), the freight elevator would randomly move between floors... things like that. I started carrying a pistol (the super asked "why... they're just ghosts?". I responded "If they can hurt me, I can hurt them... or at least have a last act of defiance")...

vynx
October 17, 2006, 03:24 PM
OK what to do about "ghost noises" and how to tell them from "Real" intruders.

I read somewhere (probably here) about some alrms that are like smoke alarms but spray out pepper spray when they sense motion or maybe infrared, something - so if you live in a hanted house get these if there is pepper spray all ove then it was something "material" and not a ghost.

I do have a "twilight zone" maybe a "ghost" story but it occrred at Carlesbad Caverns the big cave in NM and was more "religious" not frightening.

sm
October 17, 2006, 03:36 PM
To assist in keeping thread "firearm related" ...

Winchester Mystery House.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Mystery_House

The Winchester Mystery House is a famous California mansion that was under construction continuously for 38 years and is reputed to be haunted. Construction of the San Jose, California mansion began in 1884, financed by owner Sarah L. Winchester, the widow of gun magnate William Wirt Winchester. Construction continued 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, until her death 38 years later on September 5, 1922. The cost for such constant building has been estimated at about US $5.5 million.

Lou629
October 17, 2006, 03:40 PM
"Back in 1835, when Halley’s comet was overhead, the same night those men died at the Alamo, they say Samuel Colt made a gun

The battle at the alamo was fought March 6, 1836
Too bad the defenders didn't have colt peacemakers available to back up their single-shot rifles, ( or Henry repeaters for that matter ) many of them would probably have lived to a ripe old age if they had.

Green Lantern
October 17, 2006, 03:48 PM
I personally don't believe in ghosts,

I do, through quite a bit of family experience. Luckily nothing personal has happened with me yet, but I'd hope I'd have enough sense not to waste some perfectly good Gold Dots on a "full-torso apparition!" :D

The house some of my family lived in in PA though, which was also occupied by a downright evil poltergiest...! :uhoh:

I do pretty good with "bumps in the night," sudden noises, ect. My @#$! toilet seat will NOT stay in the upright position (musta been designed by a woman), but it usually won't fall right away.

IE - do "#1," go in next room to get on computer, half an hour later jump at a very loud "BANG" from the bathroom as the heavy seat crashes down on the porcelean!

Haven't blasted away at the bathroom yet! :D

...May be because it's hard to draw while sitting Indian-style here on my laptop! :what:

Kevlarman
October 17, 2006, 03:49 PM
A sawed off cobalt blue steel, hairline trigger, walnut stock, double-barreled 12 gauge Remington shotgun, available at S-Mart!
And a chainsaw to replace my right hand.

If not, a proton pack and traps.

Or a vacuum cleaner.

:neener:

hnk45acp
October 17, 2006, 03:59 PM
An old priest
A young priest
some holy water, a bible and plenty of towels to clean off the pea soup:neener:

Troutman
October 17, 2006, 04:08 PM
Firearms, bullets will not work on spirits, ghosts. You need a special person to handle this situation.


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/troutmen/elvira_gun.jpg


Elvira

JD_LION
October 17, 2006, 05:02 PM
I was a non believer didn't think twice about ghost stories BUT THEN I moved into a older house and started to have strange things happen, Lights turning on I kept on hearing my bathroom door open and it was always just after we would lay down in bed so I just dismissed it coming up with reasonable explanations like the light switch was loose and would slip on or there was a draft coming from my attic fan that opened the bathroom door. Then one night it all changed I was woken up by the unmistakable sounds of footsteps walking across my squeaky hardwood kitchen floor I grabbed my pistol from the nightstand opened the bedroom door and started to investigate. I had a Maglite in one hand and a Glock in the other as I was slowly walking down the hallway I saw IT a full size shadow of a person standing in the family room I yelled out STOP WHO ARE YOU SHOW ME YOUR HANDS I HAVE A GUN the shadow then took off at unbelievable speed straight into the wall then POOF it was gone everything was over. I absolutely know what I saw and there is no modern scientific explanation for it. This experience changed my life no person can ever change my mind on what I witnessed with my own eyes that night. The noises still kept up over the next few years in that house but nithing like what happened that night. I used to be hesitant about telling this story but I think now everyone should be open about there experiences one day we might figure this stuff out you never know.

There is a good TV show called GHOST HUNTERS on the SCI-FI channel its about people that try to debunk ghost stories or haunted houses there are a couple very good episodes with some good stuff caught on video. You should watch it it might change you beliefs.

Doug.38PR
October 17, 2006, 05:28 PM
JD Lion, When I said "I personally don't believe in ghosts." I mean't by that, I don't believe in spirts of dead people that come back to haunt the living. When you die you either go to heaven or hell.
Religion is a touchy subject for some here, but, since we are talking about my beliefs, here is what I think in more full detail. Some of these things reported can be explained naturally. Others where people actually see "ghosts" and floating objects and such, I would say are one of two things, imagination running away (Many people you see on tv documentaries are often crazy looking) OR demons posing as dead people (ghosts). I believe in God, I also believe there is a devil who has his own legion of angels doing misdeeds on earth and leading mortals astray and tormenting them. Such things are indeed recorded in Holy Scripture.

I believe most of these people, including you, are seeing something. I believe you saw something unique that night. BUT I don't think it is the spirit of a dead person come back to life (I think it is something much more dangerous if you let it, or downright harmless if you know the Truth that sets men free).

"hostile ghosts" I would say are tormentors of the lost and drawing attention to themselves away from God.

"Friendly ghosts" that are "non violent" I would say are likewise setting themselves up to be worshipped (by that I don't mean bow down literally and pay homage to it, but many people get obsessed with it and even call seeing them "spiritual experiences".) Bottom line, from a Christian worldview, they are drawing attention away from Christ and towards another false idol. If the supernatural event is not pointing to Christ then it is a lie. (Remember heavenly angels always came as messengers of the Lord and made that perfectly understood)

Anyway,
Back on topic. So you pulled a gun on a ghost! Wow. Like I said, I believe you saw something alright. I would probably have urine running down my leg after I saw that.

I read of an incident in Jefferson, Texas in which a man got into his car and found a ghost man sitting right next to him in the passenger seat smiling at him and fading away :what: (lot's of eerie ghost stories in Jefferson, especially at it's downtown hotel)

Geronimo45
October 17, 2006, 05:40 PM
I thought silver did the job, not salt. Unless you can handload some silver bullets into autoloader cartridges, you'll probably need a revolver. Preferably a cheap revolver... since I hear that silver's harder on the rifling than lead. Or a big, overbuilt beast... something in .357 magnum firing .38 special silver bullets.
Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives - which one of those is the best for ghost removal?

Correia
October 17, 2006, 06:18 PM
In the spirit of the season (and shameless plugs) for a gunnut's eye view of monsters and things that go bump in the night, buy the book Monster Hunter International by Larry Correia when it comes out at the end of the year. :)

Anybody remember the old Round Table mega-thread about ghosts? Man, that thread was awesome. Some poster's experiences were mind blowing.

carterbeauford
October 17, 2006, 06:21 PM
The closest experience I have to anything possibly ghost related happened the day my girlfriend's dad died. The porch light on their house turned on and off that night without explanation. Hasn't happened since. Whether or not it was him, I will never know, she believes it was and I wasn't about to argue.

Still hard to talk about... he was an avid hunter, outdoorsman and friend of gun owners, 58 is too young to go :(

TallPine
October 17, 2006, 06:25 PM
Unless you can handload some silver bullets into autoloader cartridges, you'll probably need a revolver. Preferably a cheap revolver... since I hear that silver's harder on the rifling than lead.
How about silver/plastic sabots...? ;)

That way you could use a lighter bullet and save on the cost of silver.:)

Green Lantern
October 17, 2006, 06:40 PM
Silver bullets, salt bullets - bah! Too much work to figure it all out....

Just gimme my PROTON PACK (http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs6/i/2005/048/8/7/A_WNC_Ghostbuster_at_work____by_LonelyImmortal.jpg) and I'll be set! :D

Don't look at me like that! It LOOKS like a harmless "fodder shock" - but it was HAUNTED I tell ya! :p :what:

"Why worry? Each of us us wearing an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back..." :uhoh:

expvideo
October 17, 2006, 06:47 PM
So my girlfriend wants to go to the haunted house (one for adults, not a kid's haunted house) in our area.... I never leave the house without my Sig. I'm a little nervous about going into this place, since I have a very fast draw. I'm affraid some guy's going to come around the corner with a chainsaw :what: to scare us or something, and I'm going to "neutralize the threat"... Perhaps I should leave the gun in the car, just this once :evil:

Justin
October 17, 2006, 06:49 PM
"I will remind you that each of us is wearing an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back."

SoCalShooter
October 17, 2006, 06:50 PM
hehe this is a good one also, if I were a LEO I would make sure noone else got hurt then just go get some donuts cause seriously how do you file a report for that..."guy was shooting at an aparition, he was found to be completely sober and at the time mentally compitent." "Found goo however from and ectoplasm, no ectoplasm found though".

*Expvideo* leave the gun in the car...

Troutman
October 17, 2006, 06:53 PM
Using a 500 magnum with Winchester 400 gr. Silver tip hollow points (blessed by a priest) will do the job; the flame along with the blast will send them into the next dimension.
Seriously,
I believe, their are things that can not be explained, also I believe their are explanations to certain happenings. But a firearm, bullets are not going to help, joke or no joke If law enforcement is going to get involved in going to one's haunted house, per say. You'll be relocated easily into a nut house. You will not have to worry about paying that existing mortgage. When you tell them you mistook a spirit, ghost for an intruder, shooting at thin air, shadows. None the less at Halloween, even if it's not Halloween. You have a better chance of helping the situation by ordering a cardboard cut-out of Elvira and placing it in your home, than using a firearm...... Really. Better yet, use the Roman Rituals, no pun intended.
In case of hearing noises and preparing for a human to be involved is one thing. Seeing spirits, ghosts, hovering shadows and shooting at them is another story.
Which comes to....Are their really vampires, spirits, ghosts? I say, yes. But, not the kind that Hollywood portrays them as. Are their people that drink blood, human blood? Their are some criminals that have done this. If one was to use that word, it would be fair.
There are phys wards; patients sharpen their teeth with files, (past tense) to create “fangs”.
Their are some people that will not believe the statement I just presented. But as they say, seeing ….not all the time though… the eyes can fool you too … is believing.
Same thing for spirits, ghosts. Their are out of body experiences; near death, technically dead, come back to life accounts, documented by the medical profession. Certain things of these experiences have a pattern, others don’t. It’s possible, that they can exist. But, not the way Hollywood portrays it as.

DRMMR02
October 17, 2006, 10:07 PM
JD Lion, When I said "I personally don't believe in ghosts." I mean't by that, I don't believe in spirts of dead people that come back to haunt the living. When you die you either go to heaven or hell.
Religion is a touchy subject for some here, but, since we are talking about my beliefs, here is what I think in more full detail. Some of these things reported can be explained naturally. Others where people actually see "ghosts" and floating objects and such, I would say are one of two things, imagination running away (Many people you see on tv documentaries are often crazy looking) OR demons posing as dead people (ghosts). I believe in God, I also believe there is a devil who has his own legion of angels doing misdeeds on earth and leading mortals astray and tormenting them. Such things are indeed recorded in Holy Scripture.

I believe most of these people, including you, are seeing something. I believe you saw something unique that night. BUT I don't think it is the spirit of a dead person come back to life (I think it is something much more dangerous if you let it, or downright harmless if you know the Truth that sets men free).

"hostile ghosts" I would say are tormentors of the lost and drawing attention to themselves away from God.

"Friendly ghosts" that are "non violent" I would say are likewise setting themselves up to be worshipped (by that I don't mean bow down literally and pay homage to it, but many people get obsessed with it and even call seeing them "spiritual experiences".) Bottom line, from a Christian worldview, they are drawing attention away from Christ and towards another false idol. If the supernatural event is not pointing to Christ then it is a lie. (Remember heavenly angels always came as messengers of the Lord and made that perfectly understood)


I agree. I believe in the supernatural. I just believe that there are rules in place that keep it from interacting with us most of the time. And I certainly don't believe the spirits of actual people reamin on earth at all after they die.

I am also going to a haunted house for adults. It's near Detroit, so I am definately going to be carrying.

DRMMR02
October 17, 2006, 10:11 PM
Alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives - which one of those is the best for ghost removal

That would be the alcohol :evil:

SigfanUSAF
October 17, 2006, 10:21 PM
Man enters my home, armed with negative intent.....45auto
Dog enters property, my kids at risk.......................12gauge
Vampire knocks on door........................................Don't invite him in
Werewolf breaks in at 0200 for food........................Silver ring dropped in 12ga


Ghost, goul, or other paranormal "things".................I'll probably curl up in a ball in the corner sobbing and sucking my thumb.:neener:

Phyphor
October 17, 2006, 10:48 PM
Ghost, goul, or other paranormal "things".................I'll probably curl up in a ball in the corner sobbing and sucking my thumb.

OH hell no, just get a paintball marker, inject the balls with holy water (or have the paintballs blessed by a good priest, ) and pop the suckers with them..... failing that, bludgeon them with a bible.

:neener: :evil:

cracked junior
October 17, 2006, 10:57 PM
this is and isnt gun related. it isnt because its about my house and the land i live on. but is because its where my shooting range is also. along time ago. like early 1900s to 1930s, 2 people have died on the kitchen table while being operated on by the local doctor, that came to the house. then in the late 1800s. this land had the only tree in the area. so it was the hanging tree to hang people.

but i havent seen a ghost or heard unexplained footsteps. i live on my grandparents farm. grandpa died and grandma moved to town. my grandma still has that kitchen table. i havent told my girlfriend that one because if i did. she wouldnt go in that house. it creeps her out enough about the farm house having the history it does. but eating at a table 2 people died on. would totaly freak her out.

Tommygunn
October 17, 2006, 11:30 PM
Call Jennifer Love Hewitt.

That would work even in a non-haunted house:neener:

The_Shootist
October 17, 2006, 11:33 PM
Dunno - the jacket may be aluminum and if they hit a werewolf they might not kill him.

But if I bean him with a couple out of my 686+ COM & they blow a pieplate sized hole in him, don't ya think he might decide he has pressing business elsewhere? :evil:

BHPshooter
October 18, 2006, 02:37 AM
Anybody remember the old Round Table mega-thread about ghosts? Man, that thread was awesome. Some poster's experiences were mind blowing.

I loved that thread. I wish I had saved it before the round table had been deleted. That thread caused me quite a few sleepless nights, but I really wish that I'd kept it, regardless. I agree -- it was awesome.

Wes

Zen21Tao
October 18, 2006, 10:38 AM
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doncol
October 18, 2006, 11:27 AM
I can honestly say that this could not happen to me. At the VERY FIRST sign of any type of ghostly activity, the ghosts get the house.:what: :(

I dont even like to watch scarry movies with my wife.:uhoh:

f4t9r
October 18, 2006, 11:31 AM
I would load up my guns and MOVE !!!!!

Troutman
October 18, 2006, 01:22 PM
Here is video on ghosts. You have to look closely and turn up the volume on your speakers to hear.

WARNING: This video SHOULD NOT be view by people with ANY kind of heart condition, or pace makers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQQS-0ZOMcg

Strings
October 18, 2006, 04:53 PM
Troutman, you need to be shot for that...

Hardware
October 18, 2006, 10:45 PM
I grew up in a house with some mighty peculiar things going on. Lights going off and on by themselves, animals refusing to go upstairs, cold spot in the hallway, and, I am not kidding, a brown spot on the wall that soaked through dark purple paint. Organs played themselves, typewriter running with nobody at the keys, window sashes throwing themselves open, a book being snatched out of my sister's hands.

But one night while my mom was working second shift and my older sister was babysitting the SHTF. Doors slamming and opening, the sound of a baby crying when I was the youngest at home at the age of 8. All of which culminated in the sound of a gunshot from the upstairs. We kids stayed huddled together on the living room sofa while we called my mom home. She showed up with two guys from her factory job, the cops hot on her heels. Nothing found amiss except 4 kids who didn't get ANY sleep that night.

We'd have moved out but it was the only house for rent in our price range. After we moved out a whole string of people moved in and out in the space of a single month before the owner sold it. I've stopped at that house when I am in my hometown, but never had the urge to talk to the current residents.

Just my experience, but this is a problem that can't be solved by guns.

SalTx
October 18, 2006, 11:43 PM
A "friend" of mine, once saw, best described as a person's silhouette bathed in moonlight, walk across the rear backyard and into the rear of the garage area. Called for the rest of the brothers to search the entire house, yard, surrounding countryside. Nothing. Given the quick response, don't believe it could have been a real intruder, plus there was, I'm told, just something different about this "stroller" from the get go. So drawing on a "ghost" or them causing "trouble" is a real possiblity. At one federal installation, the security guards and the agents assigned to that place spoke quite plainly about "unknown" causes of "activities". They described shadows in secured areas and drums and bugles being heard.

Troutman
October 30, 2007, 02:52 PM
Deja Vu?

bluestarlizzard
October 30, 2007, 04:03 PM
"I can honestly say that this could not happen to me. At the VERY FIRST sign of any type of ghostly activity, the ghosts get the house."
"I would load up my guns and MOVE !!!!!"

yes, we all will be in the non haunted house, while the rest of you nuts go haunt hunting. have fun and try not to come home covered in green slime.

romma
October 30, 2007, 04:04 PM
I swear our house is haunted. I, my Girlfriend, and our kids have seen them or it or whatever it is.

I can describe it as whiteish blue, fast moving, and eerie... Been a while since a reported encounter.

Strings
October 30, 2007, 04:53 PM
heck, most ghosts aren't anything to worry about...

We have one on our front hall: a cat. And yes, I know it's not one of the 8 that actually live here: I've come through the curtain that seperates the hall from the living room, having seen a cat in the hall, and found all 8 of ours asleep in the living room...

Dealt with different spookies in different places: haven't ever felt the need to be scared...

Danus ex
October 30, 2007, 05:05 PM
Anybody remember the old Round Table mega-thread about ghosts? Man, that thread was awesome. Some poster's experiences were mind blowing.

Pleeeaaase say this thread is archived somewhere.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=3375 Maybe?

Crunker1337
October 30, 2007, 05:19 PM
The best defense against the supernatural is prayer.

VirgilCaine
October 30, 2007, 05:20 PM
Now I'm not saying that I've been everywhere and I've done everything, but I do know it's a pretty amazing planet we live on, and a man would have to be some kind of FOOL to think we're alone in THIS universe.

That's my opinion on ghosts and whatnot.

First of all, I'd get a nice big crucifix--just in case a cross isn't eckzactly the thing you need.

Then I'd go for the silver bullets and rock salt.

Stephen21B
October 30, 2007, 05:39 PM
There are a lot of places around here that are supposed to be haunted but I've only had one experience myself, I was working as a security guard at a local chemical plant and there was this one spot that was always dark and cold one of the security cameras looks right at this spot and sometimes you could almost see something moving in the shadows:what: at first I just wrote it off as a mix of boredom and paranoia but then one time while walking by this spot my helmet flew off my head for no apparent reason it was a white construction helmet and I had it pretty snug on my noggin(don't want ya'll thinking I'm a mall ninja:neener:) well for about a week after that weird stuff continued to happen I would hear someone call my name but no one would be around, something would hit my helmet (like a small rock) and everything would just be generally creepy in that area, then it all stopped and I didn't have any problems after that so then back in august I get a call from a friend of a friend, apparently he's now working on my old shift and wants to know if anything creepy happened to me in that one area:eek:

RoadkingLarry
October 30, 2007, 05:52 PM
:rolleyes:And here I thought this forum was populated by mostly mature adults....:rolleyes:

Strings
October 30, 2007, 06:07 PM
Ok Larry... go ahead and explain some of what's been posted.

Oh...i think I've still got most of the stories from the original RT thread saved here somewhere. I'll post 'em, ifn y'all would like...

Rich K
October 30, 2007, 06:09 PM
A squirt gun filled with Holy Water.

littlegator
October 30, 2007, 06:29 PM
There was this one time when I was a kid, I got into this car and was carried for awhile until I got near this one point where there was a mirror and I saw this apparation sitting next to me with a long beard and a scraggly face, but I couldn't see him next to me without the mirror. When I got out of the car, I told my Dad, but he didn't believe me. I was really scared, but then we went on Pirates of the Carribean and everything was okay. :D

KiltedClaymore
October 30, 2007, 11:36 PM
hey man that supernatural stuff is nothin to play with. call me childish but that stuff gets me good and scared. if its human or animal i know i can put two in its head and its dead, with a spirit that approach doesnt work. besides, theres always the chance you make it angry and it posseses you! :uhoh:

RNB65
October 31, 2007, 12:17 AM
If there's ever been a use for the sub-atomic weasel launcher, this is it!

:)

.cheese.
October 31, 2007, 12:30 AM
I know a lady who claims she grew up in a haunted house.

She's told me stories that are pretty interesting.

Apparently, she really did hear footsteps when nobody was there, and voices (although she claims you never could make out what they were saying), and screams, and things moved.

There was one time where they (the ghosts) all went kind of crazy and the whole family was scared for their lives. They all huddled up in one room and waited for hours until it stopped afraid to go anywhere.

I actually think this is an interesting question. I never stopped to think what that would lead to in terms of security related issues.

Whether or not there really are ghosts, and whether I should believe her - I don't know. I have my doubts, but I also believe somewhat. She's not the kind of person to make stuff up, nor is she crazy.

At the end of it all I kind of shrug and realize that we don't know everything yet about our own planet, let alone the universe, energy, etc. So I suppose it's possible.

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