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StiKiller
October 18, 2006, 10:55 AM
Hello everyone, i'm curious where everyone buys their bullets, at my local range, they sell me this red box of "american eagle" for $13 and contains 50 rounds. When I asked for the best bullets they have for self defense and not just target practice, they sold me the Federal Premium for about $18 or so. Is there somewhere online I can buy target practic bullets in BULK? This practice shooting gets expensive, works out to be about .26 cent a bullet for the cheaper bullet -.- Please help me out a little! Thank you!!! .40 s&w is the size.

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ny32182
October 18, 2006, 10:59 AM
Check with your local Walmart. Around here, .40 is about $16.xx for 100 rounds, or about $0.16 per shot.

If you want to order practice ammo online, check out http://www.georgia-arms.com/index1.htm

Justin
October 18, 2006, 11:00 AM
I buy them in bulk from Sportsman's Warehouse. Then I've got to run the reloader.

StiKiller
October 18, 2006, 11:11 AM
anyone in philadelphia or nearby counties know where to go for cheap ammo!? :cuss: damn bullets!

Mikee Loxxer
October 18, 2006, 11:14 AM
Last time I bought bullets I paid $13.99 for (100) .308" 130 grain Hornady soft points.

Manedwolf
October 18, 2006, 11:17 AM
To the first poster, I think you mean to be asking about ROUNDS or cartridges, not bullets. The bullet is the projectile itself, not the entire thing, and since a lot of people on here reload, if you ask about bullets, you're asking about just that. The round consists of a factory-loaded case and bullet. FYI. :)

hankdatank1362
October 18, 2006, 11:19 AM
Give the kid a break on the "bullet" thing. He meant cartridges.

StiKiller, we have these guys on this forum called reloaders. These are guys that will spend countless hours in their garages, spare bedrooms, toolshops, whatever, reloading their own cartridges. They love to flame guys that call cartridges or rounds "bullets", when the bullet is actually only the projectile fired from the cartridge. They are closely related to the guys that flame everybody that calls a magazine a "clip.":evil: :evil: :evil:

BrennanKG
October 18, 2006, 11:25 AM
Stikiller,

I buy my range/target ammo (Winchester white box) at Walmart.
At $22/box of 100 in 45ACP it seems to be about the same as the gun show pricing (although at shows you're buying in 1000 rd boxes/cases).

I'd love to find 45ACP for less than $20/100rds but I haven't found it yet.



B.

El Tejon
October 18, 2006, 11:26 AM
True, hank, but if you ask for "bullets" (the projectile), you may not get what you want.:D

Sorry, this is THR and people (well, me) will roll on the floor and moan if you call a "clip" a magazine or a cartridge a bullet.:D

A handy mnemonic poem (attributed to the late Jeff Cooper):

The bullet comes out of barrel,
The cartridge goes into the breech,
As you are careful of your apparel,
Be careful of your speech.

I purchase ammo via the mail or at shows where I can get bulk deals.

The range is charging extra because of convenience--the market at work.:)

Exmasonite
October 18, 2006, 11:29 AM
back to the topic before we get locked down...

Some wal-marts will carry some ammo. Type and quantities are rather inconsistent, IMO.

Not sure what gun you have but I use WWB (Winchester White Box) in my Springfield XD. Never a hiccup. Usually runs about 15-16 per 100 rds.

there are a LOT of different places online to buy. (do a search on google, you'll see)

The 2 that i've dealt with and would recommend are:

http://www.natchezss.com/

www.ammoman.com

Now, the first one has better prices w/ shipping and better variety... the 2nd one has free shipping on case purchases.

If you're going to do online ordering, especially w/ shipping fees (ammo is heavy), you need to go bulk... 500+ rds minimum (i usually get at least 1000). It's a lot to pony down at once but worth it in the long run.

Btw, I usually get the Blazer or Blazer Brass from Natchez when I order. Don't get wolf.
Good luck!

Big Calhoun
October 18, 2006, 11:29 AM
I've gotten good deals on 20 and 50 round boxes of cartridges at gunshows. Typically save anywhere from $2.00 - $5.00 a box from what the lowests costs locally. Cheaper Than Dirt also seems to have some fairly decent prices.

mete
October 18, 2006, 11:35 AM
Buy by the case , 1000 rounds , it's cheaper that way.

StiKiller
October 18, 2006, 11:39 AM
sorry, I didn't know, as I am fairly new to shooting and owing a handgun, yes I meant ROUNDS~ ^.^ I have a SA XD and a Sig 229. The Walmarts here in Philadelphia DO NOT sell rounds, so I guess my best bet is to order online, and yes, I shall buy in bulk!~ Anyone else have a place in mind?

MachIVshooter
October 18, 2006, 11:51 AM
They love to flame guys that call cartridges or rounds "bullets", when the bullet is actually only the projectile fired from the cartridge. They are closely related to the guys that flame everybody that calls a magazine a "clip."

Since internet message boards give us only the written word and a handful of slightly useful emoticons, correct spelling and terminology are paramount. We don't get to interpret the way we would in a face to face or telephone conversation using tone, phonetics and context. Most of us are not trying to be mean when making these corrections. I think constructive criticism is the appropriate term.

The ones you must watch out for are those that will flame minor spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors that could very easily have been simple typo's. Fortunately, there are only a couple of them here.

Sti Killer;
The Federal American Eagle ammunition is good quality range ammo, albeit slightly more expensive than others. I handload most stuff, but I buy American Ealge for .223 and .308. For 9mm, .40 and .45 handgun ammo, I usually go to Walmart and buy Remington/UMC. A couple bucks more than the Winchester white box, Rem/UMC burns cleaner and is made in the USA. The Winchester stuff might be made here; I have seen plenty that was of foreign manufacture.

Shadowwolf80
October 18, 2006, 12:36 PM
Walmart in Philly does not carry ammo or firearms (at least not the ones in South Philly or on the Boulevard). Dick's does, but they are hit and miss as to actual inventory and the pricing is fairly lousy (but better than what you are paying). I buy on-line mainly from sportsmansguide.com or natchezss.com. Fill in with the local gun shop where needed.

Unfortunately we are probably going to loose our one gun show at the NG armory up Rt.1, as they keep cancelling (turned into beef jerky dealers anyway). So on-line bulk is the cheapest way I have found.

They are trying desperately to make things more difficult for Philadelphia gun owners.

.38 Special
October 18, 2006, 12:46 PM
The ones you must watch out for are those that will flame minor spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors that could very easily have been simple typo's.
Use of the apostrophe in the last word indicates that there is something which belongs to "typo" and that you didn't finish the sentence to include whatever that belonging might be. :neener:

Rem700SD
October 18, 2006, 12:53 PM
On handgun ammo, sporting goods places are pretty competative on ammo. I usually buy in bulk from either
http://www.natchezss.com/
or http://www.midwayusa.com/

cheaper brands include UMC/remington (yellow box), winchester(white box), and PMC

I just noticed that the cheapest I found in my brief search was UMC from Natchez at about $11.85 per 50. Request a catalogue from a couple online suppliers. You'll get on their mailing lists and get circulars every month or so w/ ammo sales. Shotgun news is another place to look for ammo suppliers.

Hope that helped.
Dan

RON in PA
October 18, 2006, 12:58 PM
Do you have your own transportation? You need to get out to Montgomery or Bucks counties where the Walmarts and Dicks sell ammo.

StiKiller
October 18, 2006, 01:48 PM
I do, so where in bucks or mont. county exactly? Thank you!

WayneConrad
October 18, 2006, 01:53 PM
If you're shooting a lot, pop over to the reloading forum. It's easy to make pistol ammo for 10 cents a round; some fellows claim to be able to make it for much less than that.

Of course, you're going to spend hundreds getting set up to reload, so it can take some time for the actual savings to happen. Let's say you spend $300 getting set up and save 15 cents a round; that means it'll take you 2000 rounds before you've "paid off" the investment in reloading equipment. And many reloaders will tell you that they never end up saving money, they just get to shoot more for the same amount of money.

Are you going to shoot 2000 rounds in the next few years?

MachIVshooter
October 18, 2006, 02:31 PM
Use of the apostrophe in the last word indicates that there is something which belongs to "typo" and that you didn't finish the sentence to include whatever that belonging might be.

See?:p

More correctly "typo" (an Americanism) is a noun that lacks a possessive form. However, a noun or pronoun can be used as the last part of a sentence if the possession is previously established. "The rifle was Mr. Johnson's."

I have long been guilty of putting apostrophies where they don't belong when pluralizing. I thought about correcting that when I re-read my post, but figured I'd leave it to bait Tory and make an example.

LkWinnipesaukee
October 18, 2006, 03:03 PM
EDIT: I apologize. I thought this was the thread I started.... Oops :o



To the first poster, I think you mean to be asking about ROUNDS or cartridges, not bullets. The bullet is the projectile itself, not the entire thing, and since a lot of people on here reload, if you ask about bullets, you're asking about just that. The round consists of a factory-loaded case and bullet. FYI.

Give the kid a break on the "bullet" thing. He meant cartridges.


No, I said BULLETS and meant BULLETS.

those pointy things (except wadcutters:rolleyes: ) that come out of the barrel...


Heres a picture for those that dont know :neener:

http://www.tonyrogers.com/weapons/images/high_speed_photos/webready/30_bullet_apple.jpg

vynx
October 18, 2006, 03:17 PM
I seem to be posting this a lot lately?

sportsmanguide.com is where i order a lot of ammo from - best prices I have found on the net.

I also buy at walmart it hard to beat the winchester white box

StiKiller
October 18, 2006, 03:30 PM
I guess i'll be visiting my local walmart, that seems to me where many people buy the white box winchester??? Hopefully I can find some!~ btw, how much is it for a box and how many rounds does one box contain?

Amish_Bill
October 18, 2006, 03:34 PM
WWB is usually boxes of 100.

Might try aimsurplus.com (http://aimsurplus.com/) too.

Sorry - noticed that you only shoot .40 - AIM doesn't seem to have any of that... :-(

Kentak
October 18, 2006, 03:58 PM
It's not flaming or being all superior if you politely correct the terminology in order to avoid confusion.

I noticed some replied giving info about "bullets," and others gave info about "ammo" (loaded rounds). That could be misleading and confusing to the OP.

StiKiller--

Welcome to the forum. I'm sure you'll have a good time here and learn a lot. The guys who corrected your terminology are trying to be helpful. If you go into a gun shop and ask for bullets, that's what you'll get, only bullets. They will probably think you're a reloader. What you're talking about is ammo, which just about everybody understands to mean complete cartridges, ready to shoot. Usually, we don't buy ammo by the "size," but by caliber. Your ammo's full name is forty caliber (.40) Smith & Wesson. But, all handgun shooters will know what you mean if you just say, "forty." So, just go in to your local gun store and say, "Hey, guys, hook me up with a couple boxes of forty." However, if you are buying from WalMart, that may not work. The guy behind the sporting goods counter might be on loan from the produce department. Even my regular guy is too stupid to find the ammo I always get. So, I have to eyeball it and direct him to it.

If you just want range ammo for practice, it's hard to beat WalMart if you're getting a few boxes at a time. Prices have been going up lately, so I can't give you a real current price, but it will probably be better than range prices. Yes, the Winchester "white box" is what a lot of us use for inexpensive practice ammo. Normally, handgun ammo comes 50 rounds to a box, but Wally World sometimes carries boxes of 100, which give a little price break. The premium personal protection ammo often comes in smaller boxes of 20 or 25 rounds.

Have fun and be safe.

K

MD_Willington
October 18, 2006, 04:03 PM
Walmart, online, gun shows.

Fortunately, last time I went shooting, I had the pleasure of being invited to try out some "Engineering Samples" from acquaintances who work for ATK

Who's ATK (http://www.atk.com) you ask...



Corporate Overview
ATK is a leading provider of advanced weapon and space systems with $3.4 billion in annual sales, approximately 15,000 employees, and operations in 22 states. The company is the world’s leading supplier of solid rocket motors and the nation’s largest manufacturer of ammunition.

Kentak
October 18, 2006, 04:16 PM
Who's ATK you ask...

Yeah, they operate the Lake City ammo plant. All us AR guys would give our left gonad to have a few cases of new production M193.

K

StiKiller
October 18, 2006, 04:46 PM
Thank you thank you everyone for the very helpful information, I called a local walmart here, and they have the Winchester white box for 17.98/100 round, does that sound like the right figure? I think i'm going to buy quite a few so I don't have to go back too often~ Also, does or can Walmart give a bigger discount if you purchase a large large quantity? Thanks again!

vynx
October 18, 2006, 06:38 PM
Thats the same price I pay in Ventura Cty California.

ChefJeff1
October 18, 2006, 06:42 PM
Try Cabelas.com. I've used their .38 and .357 and they worked fine. I also killed my first deer yesterday with their bulk .270. They also come in a nice plastic ammo can.

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