LEOs: An alert


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Art Eatman
October 19, 2006, 12:01 AM
The 2006 Infiniti G35X has a fold-down armrest in the center of the back seat.

There is a pocket in the armrest, opening on the right side and held closed by velcro, that is just big enough for a Glock 26.

The cover is unobtrusive and looks decorative. When the armrest is up, it's also rather unobtrusive.

Art

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real_name
October 19, 2006, 12:09 AM
If we are on the topic of unexpected places to find things in new model cars I have an addition.
The Toyota Prius has two glove boxes on the dashboard, one on top of the other. This is not immediately apparent to non-owners as the upper compartment looks like trim when closed.
http://www.aurorabook.com/pictures/prius/glovebox.jpg

In fact there are a few places to hide things in the Prius. I can elaborate if necessary

rwc
October 19, 2006, 12:12 AM
Mercedes 300 series from a few years ago have a similar storage tray in the arm rest between the back seats.

swampgator
October 19, 2006, 12:20 AM
There is an agency in the NE, I can't remember which, but every year they get loaner cars from dealerships and tear into them to find out all the hidey holes. They videotape it and sell it to other agencies to aid in locating drugs in new vehicles.

thumper723
October 19, 2006, 12:47 AM
The "Sushi Tray" in my 2005.5 Jetta TDi Makes a great car-carry spot for my 1911. :D

Mr White
October 19, 2006, 12:49 AM
If we are on the topic of unexpected places to find things in new model cars I have an addition.
The Toyota Prius has two glove boxes on the dashboard, one on top of the other. This is not immediately apparent to non-owners as the upper compartment looks like trim when closed.


In fact there are a few places to hide things in the Prius. I can elaborate if necessary

I realize LEOs have to be prepared for anything, but it strikes me as very funny thinking of BGs driving around in a hybrid Prius. Environmental terrorists or PETA activists, maybe. But 4 bangers cruising the hood in a Prius is a pretty funny thought.

Spreadfire Arms
October 19, 2006, 12:52 AM
I realize LEOs have to be prepared for anything, but it strikes me as very funny thinking of BGs driving around in a hybrid Prius. Environmental terrorists or PETA activists, maybe. But 4 bangers cruising the hood in a Prius is a pretty funny thought.

yes but crooks will steal ANYTHING!

real_name
October 19, 2006, 12:59 AM
The very fact that the Prius is viewed to be a treehugger car is reason enough for me to want to use one should I ever plan on doing anything spectacularly illegal, which I don't/won't. I just sold my '05 after two great years driving around being virtually invisible to the Police.
Also, I took the thread to be relating to unforseen hiding places for firearms. Well I carry a firearm while driving, and I did while I had the Prius. Sometimes the liberal looking innocent ones are packing more heat than you think.
I used to get some funny looks at the range car park though.
Not that I cared.

The Good
October 19, 2006, 01:04 AM
my 06 jetta(and im assuming all the other new model volkswagens) has a section on the roof of the glove compartment that you cannot see unless you are at eye level with it, that is made for storage of the thick owners manual. you could easily put any handgun in there and take your license and registration out of your glove box while an officer watches you and he would never notice it. this means someone could easily open the glove box and appear to have nothing in there while he is really pulling out a weapon

Rumble
October 19, 2006, 09:29 AM
I own a Prius. There are numerous hidey-holes, but if you're thinkin' about one, be aware that the really cool glove boxes don't lock (in fact, none of the hidey holes lock). On the other hand, I get 50mpg, so I can afford a lockbox.

As for its Invisibility to Law Enforcement mutant power, I hypothesize that if you blew by a cop doing 90 in a Prius (yes, they can do 90, but they gotta work at it), it would cause such powerful cognitive dissonance that the cop would pass out from the sheer effort to assimilate the conflicting information :D

Imaginos
October 19, 2006, 09:47 AM
I have a Prius, and short of a car jacking, stealing it is really not an option without a tow truck/revcovery vehicle.

The key for a Prius combines the door clicker with the actual "key" into a plastic box about 1"x2". This fits into a "plug" in the dashboard BEFORE you hit the Power button and wait for the computer to boot up.

You receive 2 keys with a new Prius. According to the sales goof, if you lose them both, the entire ignition system must be replaced. There is a conventional metal key that inserts into the back of the "box" key, but it will only unlock the doors. It cannot start the car.

No "keybox", no computer, no go.

thumper723
October 19, 2006, 09:53 AM
The Good-

That upper shelf is what I call the "sushi-tray". (They used it as one in a VW Commercial)

Glockfan.45
October 19, 2006, 09:54 AM
My car has a great hiding spot..........but guess what Im not going to announce it to the world over the internet :rolleyes: .

dragongoddess
October 19, 2006, 09:59 AM
"You receive 2 keys with a new Prius. According to the sales goof, if you lose them both, the entire ignition system must be replaced. There is a conventional metal key that inserts into the back of the "box" key, but it will only unlock the doors. It cannot start the car.

No "keybox", no computer, no go."



While this may be true for some I know I can make it go. Just give me the schematics and I'll have it up and running.

Kharn
October 19, 2006, 10:24 AM
I realize LEOs have to be prepared for anything, but it strikes me as very funny thinking of BGs driving around in a hybrid Prius. Environmental terrorists or PETA activists, maybe. But 4 bangers cruising the hood in a Prius is a pretty funny thought.If I ever had to find a dope-smoking hippy, I'd start by shaking down the Prius drivers. :evil:

Kharn

symr00
October 19, 2006, 10:25 AM
Many of these concealment spaces are listed on Policeone.com
If you are a LEO and a certain one isn't listed, please send a picture of it so they can post it on their website for other officers/agents to see.

280PLUS
October 19, 2006, 10:27 AM
If I ever had to find a dope-smoking hippy, I'd start by shaking down the Prius drivers.
Now that's funny right thur...

aguyindallas
October 19, 2006, 10:29 AM
my 06 jetta(and im assuming all the other new model volkswagens) has a section on the roof of the glove compartment that you cannot see unless you are at eye level with it, that is made for storage of the thick owners manual. you could easily put any handgun in there and take your license and registration out of your glove box while an officer watches you and he would never notice it. this means someone could easily open the glove box and appear to have nothing in there while he is really pulling out a weapon

The New Acura RL is like this as well. A couple of the guys I work with (I am a Finance Mgr at an Acura dealer) affectionally call it the "Glock Box" instead of a "Glove Box"

Also, the brand new 2007 Acura MDX has a little compartment on the passenger side of the center console, down near the floor that while it is obviously not a hiding place as it is VERY visible, would still make a good place to park a handgun.

carterbeauford
October 19, 2006, 10:37 AM
New body style Dodge Rams (2002-present 1/2 tons and 2003-present 3/4 and 1 tons) have a compartment hidden in the bottom seat cushion of the 40/20/40 bench seat. I don't hide anything illegal in mine, but it would make a good place to do so. You'd never know it's there.

real_name
October 19, 2006, 10:39 AM
if you blew by a cop doing 90 in a Prius (yes, they can do 90, but they gotta work at it)

I reached over 100mph once in mine, downhill over the Tennessee river bridge on the way back from Memphis, the car was quite happy although if I recall correctly the gas engine was engaged to achieve that.

Regarding the ignition, a previous poster stated that the key fob is inserted in the ignition, this is only optional. I drove with the keys in my pocket. As such the Prius was pretty quick off the mark as to enter the car required no key handling, starting the car required no key handling, and as the car can move without turning over the gas engine there is no waiting on the starter motor. I could be in and moving significantly faster than I can in my present car or truck.

Who knew? The Toyota Prius is a criminal's dream car.

ny32182
October 19, 2006, 10:42 AM
This entire thread...


:scrutiny: :scrutiny:

Fosbery
October 19, 2006, 11:19 AM
If you want to hide a P90/Glock/FN 5-7 etc just put it in a box marked 'power tool' with a charger and a few drill bits.

romma
October 19, 2006, 11:29 AM
:evil: I got nuthin to hide! Just concealed... ;)

TallPine
October 19, 2006, 12:00 PM
Let's see ... states like Montana, Colorado, Arizona you can (and always have been, AFAIK since the horseless carraige has been invented) legally carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle without any permit or anything.

I don't know that these states have any higher rate of police killed on traffic stops than anywhere else :confused:

Much ado about nothing, IMO ;)

Technosavant
October 19, 2006, 12:25 PM
Imaginos, that is not necessarily true. While the manufacturers make great noise about the efficacy of their immobilizer systems (usually consists of a transponder in the ignition key), they are NOT foolproof. In fact, sometimes there are "back doors" to the system- Wired magazine had an article on this a couple months back. One car had a code sequence involving the e-brake, brake pedal, and probably a couple other things that would override the transponder system, allowing you to start the car. ANYTHING can be stolen, and often the theft occurs because the owners leave a key in it. Oops.

New cars have all kinds of storage bins in them. My car (and the wife's car too) have a tray in the center console- pull on one lever and you get the bin, the other and you get the tray. The spots are handy for the flotsam/jetsam that is nice to have out of sight in the vehicle, but I sure wouldn't want to have to search them for contraband.

Art Eatman
October 19, 2006, 04:16 PM
C'mon, gang, let's stay within shouting range of the subject, okay?

Art

auschip
October 19, 2006, 04:28 PM
My 2001 F150 Supercrew had two cupholders in the center console. If you pulled up on them, the whole thing unsnapped and was a great place to install my safe.

shortydog
October 19, 2006, 04:28 PM
when i worked at a alarm / car audio shop we made all kinds of hidey spots.
fake back seats, actuator driven drawers, sub boxes with hidey spots.:evil:

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