Gun Room - Need Photos and Ideas


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Anthony
October 19, 2006, 12:13 PM
Hello Everyone,

I am currently working on converting an extra bedroom in my home into a gun room, but am a bit unsure of how I want to lay it out, furnish it, equip it, etc. Sadly none of my shooting friends have such rooms.

Would anyone with such a game room, armory, gun room, walk in gun vault, etc. care to share their experiences and photos of their rooms so I could get some ideas to consider?

Thank you for your time and attention.

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pcosmar
October 19, 2006, 12:29 PM
I would recomend this guy. and you might like his whole site.http://www.thedonovan.com/

Anthony
October 19, 2006, 12:42 PM
Thanks for the link. The website looks like fun.

Is there someplace in particular on this huge website you would suggest I look?

I don't see anything related to gun rooms or anything similar looking at the main page.

Langenator
October 19, 2006, 12:43 PM
I can't access the site from work, but look for "The Arsenal of Argghhh!!" links.

Anthony
October 19, 2006, 12:52 PM
The closest thing I see is photos of a museum layout...which really is not what I am looking for.

I'm looking for something a bit more personal like some people will have a room laid out as a study with guns and firearms related items around the room for example.

Mr White
October 19, 2006, 01:47 PM
No, dude. You don't understand. That "museum layout" is the guy's gun room!

Anthony
October 19, 2006, 01:51 PM
Oh I see...would still like to hear from other THR members on more conventional set ups as this is a bit elaborate for me...not quite what I had in mind.

Exmasonite
October 19, 2006, 01:52 PM
I'd focus on 2 things:

1) security

2) staying "incognito"

for the second one..... make it seem like it's just a normal room. maybe partition off most of the room so it looks like a small bedroom w/ a closet door... have the closet be a massive walk in as your gun room.

just a thought.

Dr.Rob
October 19, 2006, 02:10 PM
1. Locking unmarked door. A real door. The purpose is to keep kids/casual friends/people at a party from wandering into your gun room. An alarm system is a pretty darn good idea, leave a motion sensor in the gun room.

2. A serious safe, bolted to the floor. The quickest way into a safe is to knock it over and cut through the bottom. A 'serious' criminal will take the time, most won't. Also it's a good place to keep most valuables and papers. Don't worry about colorful finish with a nice logo, it's for security, not for show. Don't leave handy power tools or sledgehammers and chisels near your safe.

3. Don't skimp on shelves. Ammo and reloading components weigh a ton. You want sturdy overbuilt shelving.

4. Keep it organized. Reloading stuff in one place, loaded ammo in another. If you have a lot of powder, consider a powder 'bunker'.

5. Have a solution for moisture. Basements are bad places to store guns because they stay damp. Don't 'close off' the room from your furnace. put a goldenrod in your safe. Carpet holds moisture. Avoid it if you can, esp in a basement. Put your safe up on a pallet and drive the mounting bolts through it, this will give you 4 inches of 'flood space'.

6. Keep a good workbench space available for cleaning guns, set your relaoding press at one end if you are cramped for space. Whacking your Dillon 550B turret press witha rifle barrel gets old in a hurry.

7. Keep it clean. Don't clutter it up with a bunch of other stuff from around the house if you can help it. This is nigh impossible if you are any reasonable human being but let me assure you it's no fun digging through piles of boxes someone put in your gun room 'temporarily' to find a set of muffs and a box of ammo.

Anthony
October 19, 2006, 02:17 PM
This is the kind of advice I am looking for.

What about asthetics?

If you had the money what types of "look" would you go for (e.g., Cabella's Gun Library)?

made2cut
October 19, 2006, 02:32 PM
I've really been needing to get a safe but the price has been putting me off. This thread has made me think seriously about converting a closet into a storage area. Simply installing a good lock on the door would be as secure as some of the gun cabinets I've been looking at. Hmmm... I'll have to see what I can do with that closet downstairs.

mosttoyswins
October 19, 2006, 03:45 PM
Don't leave handy power tools or sledgehammers and chisels near your safe.


Dr. Rob, you owe me a new keyboard...spit my coke all over it :D :D :D :D

That made me laugh out loud...

Harry Paget Flashman
October 19, 2006, 05:23 PM
I am not sure how much room you think you need but what I did was to expand out from an existing closet. I removed the sliding closet doors and bolted in/framed in two gun safes on either side of the closet, facing each other with enough room to swing the doors open. I made wooden shelves above the safes. I put up " plywood on the inside of the closet first with steel straps screwed to the studs first to discourage saws. I used screws and liquid nail for everything, no nails.

I extended a wall out from the closet about 6' wide and 3 1/2' deep for storage. I keep ammo and pistols there in shelves and my milsurps in a rifle rack. The new walls are of 2X4 studs 8" O.C., criss-crossed steel straps and 3/4" plywood inside and out. The new wall is tied into the floor, rafters and existing walls. I bought a pre-hung steel door with a lock and deadbolt. The door is pegged so that removing the hinge bolts doesn't allow the door to be removed.

On the outside of the gun vault walls I installed shelving for books and knicknacks. At a glance, the addition doesn't look like a gun vault. It is very sturdy but no Ft. Knox. I feel a lot better having it than storing the guns (~90) under beds and in closets. Somebody is going to have to make a lot of noise and expend a lot of time and energy to get in.

The only thing I would do differently would be to run some random romex through the walls with 110V for someone to find. You can piggyback that circuit to your main breaker so that they'd have to secure power to the house to work around it. That would slow them down.

I only made it as big as I needed and still have the rest of the room functioning as a bedroom.

Hanzo581
October 19, 2006, 05:42 PM
I think some pictures are in order, I would like to see that project of yours, and I am sure it would help the topic starter

Rembrandt
October 19, 2006, 06:54 PM
My idea of the perfect gun room is that of a classy library of an old English castle. Should have fireplace, over stuffed leather chairs, books, wildgame head mounts, and firearms decorating the walls.....sort of like this.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Wildlife/Library1.jpg


Another classy gun room concept would be a smaller version of a Cabela's gun library.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/home_top.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/home_bot.jpg

Hanzo581
October 19, 2006, 07:00 PM
is he looking to do a hunting lodge type of gun room or something more modern? Is he looking to just store or display?

http://www.thegun-room.co.uk/webimages/thegunroom02.jpg

Dr.Rob
October 19, 2006, 07:00 PM
That wasn't meant as a joke. If you give a burgler the time and opportunity to break into your safe, he will.

Ever see that show 'It takes a Thief"? They make it pretty clear that most hiding spots aren't, that anything you leave can and will be used, and firearms are a recognized source of quick cash. That whole notion that a 'real' thief won't bother with them is BS.

A guy who has the skills to knock off the Met to take home the good stuff isn't breaking into your house.

A burgler is breaking into your house, and mostly what he wants is whatever isn't nailed down and he can grab quickly.

You shouldn't leave the means to break into your most secure areas laying within easy reach. You think he won't knock over your safe to get what's inside?

You'd be wrong.

I'd love to have a grand old den full of african trophies and a couple wall hangers... I'd keep the 'real' stuff locked up.

hankdatank1362
October 19, 2006, 09:34 PM
I was thinking he would enjoy something more along the lines of John's high-tech toyland buried underneath his toolshed in "Mr. & Mrs. Smith".

All that steel diamondplate would get real expensive real quick.

On last week's episode of Extreme Home Makeover on ABC, they showed that solid steel pre-constructed safe-room they installed in a family's house to keep them safe in a tornado. I want one of those, with every wall lined with MREs and other SHTF supplies, as well as a home "arsenal."

hankdatank1362
October 19, 2006, 09:37 PM
But there is a lot to be said for the classy trophy-room/study thing. A nice bear rug, butter-soft leather wingback, a snifter of brandy, and a nice Robusto. *Hank sniffs as he glances around his double-wide*

Maybe one day when I get out of school...:(

Harry Paget Flashman
October 19, 2006, 10:37 PM
Hanzo
A digital camera is on my list of things to buy and learn how to use for posting pictures. Essentially, I just added a real sturdy mini-room within a room and called it a gun vault. I will post pictures when I get a camera.

Anthony
October 20, 2006, 11:02 AM
One item that will be going into the room was actually a gift from my wife. It is one of those globe bars from Italy with the 16th century map of the world complete with sea monsters and lots of beautiful script. She picked it up at the Goodwill Superstore for $50.00 in 2000. Toscano just put the EXACT same globe back on the market for $175.00.

See attached photo.

If it matches this globe I am interested in looking at it. :)

Ben Shepherd
October 20, 2006, 11:17 AM
I'm assuming you reload?

As mentioned before, heavy duty shelves. Preferably secured to the wall. Heavy stuff(slugs, loaded ammo, etc.) on the bottom, light stuff(primers, empty ammo boxes, etc) on top. A good safe(s)secured to the wall and floor. Pretty is good if you can afford it.

I built my loading bench into one wall. ROCK SOLID. I weigh 215 and I can litterally jump up and down on it. Build your bench a foot longer and a foot deeper than you think you'll need. You'll use the extra space. I use three sides for work the fourth side is secured to the wall. Don't build your bench into a corner, as you lose one side to work with.

Also I suggest that your bench surface be white. Better visibility in the room do to reflected light. A darker color just absorbs light. Also makes it MUCH easier to see spilled powder and other things you'll end up needing to clean up on the bench surface.

Peg board is your friend, as are all those little bin/drawer set-ups.

My room is basically split in half. One half reloading stuff, the other half gun stuff.

Kevlarman
October 20, 2006, 01:07 PM
It is one of those globe bars from Italy

Alocohol and firearms don't mix. :neener:

John of Argghhh!
October 20, 2006, 03:09 PM
Heh. You guys have been a swarm in my server logs, I came over in self-defense to see what lies and calumny were being spread about me.

There are actually two rooms in the basment. One is essentially the museum, , and the other is a library. The library hasthe Russian, Swede, French and "polyglot" rifles on two walls, and bookshelves and recliner elsewhere. That was also the most problematic room, as it has a large picture window, which required bars and *ahem* other measures be taken to provide adequate security.

The museum room sits unobtrusively behind two locked doors, so casual visitors won't stumble in - and for those of you who worry about burglars - there are *measures* which shall remain unlisted here, to account for someone who, recognizing that cutting through concrete and steel to get in horizontally is noisy and time-consuming might try the simpler approach of going through the floor of the room above...

I couldn't build a bunker - so I built it such that your average smash and grab artist would have to take too much time and effort to get in. A true professional could bypass most of the measures - but is also smart enough to know that the collection, while impressive looking, actually doesn't have near enough quickly realizeable value (being mostly used milsurp of varying rarity, which is my preferred niche) to be worth the effort for the risk. I also post copies of my FFL (so that the occasional tradesman (like my plumber and cable guy) will feel like I'm not necessarily a crank with guns -though, in truth, I am - as well as the ATFE-provided "Stealing Guns Is A Federal Offense" poster.

So, all that effort - and what am I doing now? Building an office upstairs, where I will display some guns, and move the core of the Library of Argghhh! to be closer to the computer. So, it's painted Hunter Green and Cream, has hardwood floors (badly in need of refinishing) and will have, in addition to the bookshelves, my poster set from the Brit "Instructions for Armorers" manuals and some WWI and WWII propaganda posters on the wall.

It's being built in a former bedroom, so I'm going to convert the closet into a gun cleaning/servicing station, and I'll install a safe in there to secure things when we travel, if I don't put them down in the basement area.

I can't overemphasize the comment above about humidity control - that is something I watch like a hawk. I have a dehumidifier and meter. I use Rennaissance Wax on the weapons I don't shoot regularly, but the wood on some of my older pieces is particularly susceptible to changes in humidity.

Thanks for dropping by, guys and gals.

If I get some decent pics of the room, I'll post 'em.

MD_Willington
October 20, 2006, 05:27 PM
I was thinking he would enjoy something more along the lines of John's high-tech toyland buried underneath his toolshed in "Mr. & Mrs. Smith".


I was thinking the same. I have the shed, need the room below it :evil:


On a side note, my wife who has never shot before, cleaned up on resettable targets and said with a big grin, "I'm really Mrs Smith" Me --> :what: ... LOL

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