Ithaca 37 questions

Hey all,

Although I've been a dyed-in-the-wool 870 fan for some time now, I just heard a new siren's song today while at the local gun shop on my lunch break. I came home with a lovely old 37 for next to nothing. Oh, ok, fine, I'll tell you, it was $100. It's a 12ga, modified choke. I'm not sure of the barrel length exactly, but it looked to be 30 inches. Here are my questions:

1. Where is the serial number on this gun? I didn't have a whole lot of time to inspect it yet, but I certainly didn't see anything on the receiver.

2. How do I know which variant of the M37 this is? (ie Featherlight, deerslayer, etc) It's an oldie, and it has waterfowl scenes engraved on the sides, and the small, ringed forend.

3. Are there any resources out there for getting this dated (once I find the serial number)? I know that at some year they quit using the little pin on the magazine tube screw ring, but I can't remember what year that is. This gun DOES have that assist pin.

Thanks a lot for your help! I can't wait to get this gun out and put it through the paces!
-Parke1

THIEF! You bought an Ithaca 37 for a hundred bucks? I paid $225 for one at the last gun show and I was very happy to get it at that price.

Serial # shd be stamped on the bottom of the receiver, just behind where the barrel goes in.

In mine, the same serial # is stamped on the bbl.

Walt Snyder's books have a list of dates / serial #'s and they're also available on the Net, though some sources differ by a year or so.

Shoot it, love it...you will never regret your purchase.

Remember that barrels below 855,000 SN cannot be interchanged at home...need a gunsmith or the factory, though I'm not sure how much the "NEW" Ithaca backs up the old products.

Need help? It's on this site, and also here:

http://www.diamondgunsmithing.com/

Delicious old and revered guns-my absolute fave.

Ok, I found the serial number, and I've been looking around online trying to find a serialization chart, but I haven't come up with anything. Anyone here have a book they can look it up in? The serial number is 3387XX.

Yeah, I felt a little guilty about taking her home for $100, but I seem to be blessed quite frequently with excellent firearms deals.

Thanks for the tips so far. I really can't wait to get out and shoot this beautiful gun. I just need to stop fondling the thing or I'll make my Wingmasters and 1187 jealous... (between you, me, and the wall, this Ithaca makes my 1187 feel like I'm swinging a 2x4)

-Parke1

Ask Les Hovencamp at the Diamond shop referenced in my earlier post. Their site has a chart, but the minute you scroll around, it vanishes.

From his posts on other sites, I know Les is a friendly and helpful guy-retired Ithaca factory gunsmith.

He frequently posts on Shotgunworld.com, on the "I love my Ithaca" board, so you could ask there too.

Ithacas swing like wands, at least for me. Being small, I need all the help I can get from the gun.

I'm only sorry that I was introduced to them so late in my shooting career.

I just hope that Craig Marshall ("New" Ithaca) can keep them alive.

You basically stole the one you got, but even brand new, they're a bargain.

Renewed Canadian distributorship is in the offing, and I'll be first in line.

Les can also help with parts and repairs. If you hit a brick wall on parts, PM me.

Ok, I found the serial number, and I've been looking around online trying to find a serialization chart, but I haven't come up with anything. Anyone here have a book they can look it up in? The serial number is 3387XX.

Your Ithaca was made in 1950.

I have a 20 gauge Model 37 with serial number 989595. Could someone possibly help me with a date of manufacture for this gun? I've searched everywhere online for a chart, but could not find anything.

.....serial number 989595. Could someone possibly help me with a date of manufacture for this gun?

Your M37 was made in 1967.

Wow, it's a year older than me. And in better shape I'm afraid to admit.

Thanks so much for the info BT.

Jesse

nice shotgun for a real good price. not very many moving parts, bottom eject, very reliable and you gotta love that hold the trigger and pump fire aspect.
I have wanted one for several years since I got rid of one. You always miss something after its gone.
I picked up one from a friend a couple of months ago also. It was made in 1941 before the war broke out.

Yeah, I'm really taken with mine. It's a very elegant design, definitely.

-Parke1

I have a model 37 with serial number 13658.
I'm very qurious when was this gun was made?

Is there a listing of serial numbers and manufacturing dates on the internet?

Hans Torkildsen

I was married to a model 37 for a year. When the BPS came out I bought one because of the 3" chamber, and thumb safety.

I have completed a reference page on our website that reflects Ithaca Gun serial numbers up until 1947.

I am also posting schematics and parts lists. Model 37, Flues & Knick are done & available free.

Coming soon will be a store with manuals that can be immediately downloaded.

Check it out & spread the word!

www.diamondgunsmithing.com

Enjoy!

I called, was told there were no dealers in the state but I could buy a 37 Featherweight for $849.00 plus FFL and shipping. :eek:

I'll buy Browning BPS's instead, thanks.

Comparing a BPS to an Ithaca 37 is somewhat like comparing Rosie O'Donald to Katie Holmes. The BPS outweighs the 37 by a good two pounds in the same gauge. Absolutely the only similarity is the bottom ejection.

Clemson

Never heard of a BPS being referred to as Rosie O'Donnell. :rolleyes:


BPS Hunter: 7.0 to 7.10lbs

37 Featherweight: 7.3lbs

Where's that 2.0 pound difference?


http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=011B&cat_id=012&type_id=211

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/images/012211m.jpg




http://www.ithacagunsusa.com/uplandgunspecs.html

http://www.ithacagunsusa.com/images/uplandcatalog800.jpg

Mea Culpa!

My 1947 20 gauge Ithaca is 5 lbs 12 oz. The 20 gauge BPS is 7 lbs even.

The "new" Ithaca 12 is listed at 7 lbs 3 oz vs the 7 lbs 10 oz to 8 lbs 1 oz shown for the BPS.

Maybe I can cut the BPS back from Rosie to Oprah.

Clemson:D

LOL :D

We'll just say, they're both pretty damn good guns.

I have a model 37 with serial number 13658.
I'm very qurious when was this gun was made?

This gun was made in 1939.

We'll just say, they're both pretty damn good guns.

Agreed! Among the very best, I'd say.

Clemson:D

I was wondering if some one could give me a manufactured date. The serial number is 253784.

Congrats on the 37....

Mine was mfg 1945/46, solid rib, w/cutts compensator. I've got $200 in it and I shoot very often...in fact, shot it in a sporting clays fund raiser two days ago.It's a 12 ga.
It's darn near put my superposed in retirement, along with my A-5. 37's handle...at least to me...like nothing else.

And the neat thing about them is that today's shooter, probably not familiar with the gun, usually passes them by for the more "trendy" guns.

If you're into sixteens at all...and get the chance to own n' shoot a 37 16 ga...you'll really get an appreciation of the Ithaca...

Good shooting...

The serial number on my model 37 is 862056. What year was it made in, am I correct in guessing the early 60's ???:uhoh:

I was wondering if some one could give me a manufactured date. The serial number is 253784.

Your M37 was built in 1949.

The serial number on my model 37 is 862056.

Yours was built in 1963, and is one of the earliest M37's made with interchangeable barrels. This feature started with guns built after serial number 855,000.

A couple things....

The 37 is an outstanding repeater with great design,, reliability and longevity up the wazoo. A small gauge 37 comes mighty close to being the perfect grouse wand, quail gun, etc. A Deerslayer variant makes a fine defensive tool as well as for venison acquisition.

There is a downside.

As some of us know, the 37's design requires meticulous machine work, not cheap in the day and age. Barrels are not interchangeable on most of the older ones, and require fitting by competent smiths. So do triggers, but few are bad or get worn to the point of being unsafe.

Parts are not as universally available as for 870s or 500s.

New ones are going to be expensive. That's inescapable, all that machining requires good equipment and personnel.

The good news, enough old ones are out there to gladden the hearts of amny of us PETP members. These are oft quite cheaply priced.

Enjoy....

I have a ithaca model 37 and the serial number is 3432XX. Can anyone tell me what year it was made? Thank you

I have a ithaca model 37 and the serial number is 3432XX. Can anyone tell me what year it was made? Thank you

1950.

Oh, and welcome to THR!! :)

Can anyone tell me the date of this gun that belonged to my Uncle?

Model 37 Featherlight 12 GA. 2 ¾ Chambered Full number 371060956

Thanks,

Tom

Can anyone tell me the date of this gun that belonged to my Uncle?

Model 37 Featherlight 12 GA. 2 ¾ Chambered Full number 371060956

Thanks,

Tom

1969.

And welcome to THR to you to!

I called, was told there were no dealers in the state but I could buy a 37 Featherweight for $849.00 plus FFL and shipping.

WOW ! I was just to my local shop today and glanced at a new Deluxe Model 37 with great looking wood he had up on the rack at A bit over $500 . I didn't ask if it was a featherweight . I think he said it was a 2005 gun ?

need the year it was made. serial 371414181.

Man, I just had to read this post... Found a model 37 at a pawn shop with what looked to be a 30" bbl with a compensated choke.... I can get him down to $169 if I want it.... Grrrrr Back to the shop in the morning.

need the year it was made. serial 371414181.

1975.

How are you guys finding out the years from the serial numbers? Can you share the method? "Teach a man to fish" and all that. . .

THANK YOU.

How are you guys finding out the years from the serial numbers? Can you share the method? "Teach a man to fish" and all that. . .

I have Walt Snyder's book on the M37 (http://www.ithacagunsusa.com/snyderbooks.html).

thanks for the info and the welcome

Well I went back and picked up my model 37 for $160 It also has a cutts compensator on it..

Can I get a date on 729320-2

Striker <------ sneaks into the room carrying his newly purchased 95% + Model 37 featherweight 12 ga (with two barrels!) that he just got for $180.00 OTD. Have to introduce and integrate into the existing 870 herd gradually so as not to cause a riot. ;)

Life is good when you work part time at a gunshop! :D

Well I went back and picked up my model 37 for $160 It also has a cutts compensator on it..

Can I get a date on 729320-2

1959.

Does anyone know the year it was made? Thanks

Ithaca model 37 with serial# 669361-2
Does anyone know the year it was made? Thanks

1957.

Had to drag this thread up again because I've seen answers for numbers on either side of mine, so it makes me want to narrow it down more: 3711242XX.
Is the beginning "37" extraneous, so it's actually the last seven digits? Either way, I think I'm covered as far as replacement barrels for "serial numbers 855,000 and up." (If I can find one.)
Thanks.

Had to drag this thread up again because I've seen answers for numbers on either side of mine, so it makes me want to narrow it down more: 3711242XX.
Is the beginning "37" extraneous, so it's actually the last seven digits? Either way, I think I'm covered as far as replacement barrels for "serial numbers 855,000 and up." (If I can find one.)
Thanks.

Yeah, the 37 at the beginning is extraneous. Your model number is 11242XX, which is 1,124,2XX, above the 855,000 mark. Mine is pretty close to yours as far as serial numbers go and I have no trouble with the interchangeable barrels.
What kind of barrel are you looking for? I have a NICE turkey barrel that I am trying to sell, parkerized, fiber sights, removable Ithaca branded extended turkey choke tube installed.

What kind of barrel are you looking for? I have a NICE turkey barrel that I am trying to sell, parkerized, fiber sights, removable Ithaca branded extended turkey choke tube installed.Thanks for the info and for the mention of the available barrel, but that one's a little too nice.
Actually, though, I probably wouldn't be going after it with a saw or anything, because mst likely the lug ain't where I need it to be. I'd like to find a longer magazine tube for mine, and a 20" or so barrel to match up with that.
Notice that I'm not holding my breath while waiting for one? ;)

I love my 37. I had the 500s and 870s, but always felt they were too bulky for me. My great grandfather went into the bedroom closet and came back out with a beautiful 12ga featherweight. It's one of the older ones with the brown tint to the metal instead of the blue.

I love my 37.Yup. That seems to be the consensus on pretty much every forum where they're mentioned.
Maybe the lack of aftermarket parts is because the M37 was "perfect" to begin with? ;)
Best I can remember, I got mine sometime prior to '74. The only deer I've taken with it was a young buck that had been hit by a car, one night just before I arrived at my friends' house in Verona, NY. It was still alive, and the responding trooper didn't have to expend a round after I volunteered to use my 37. (I have hunted with it on several occasions, just never saw any game.)
Took a trophy with it in a police match in Utica in '77, and found out afterward that a part (elevator?) was missing from the rear sight.
It spent several years at my parents' house so my Dad could have something for HD. When they moved to another state, the Ithaca came to keep my Mossberg 500A company. The two seem to get along fine. :D
Now I'm looking to refurb it a little, and if nothing else, at least go shred paper and dent steel with it now and again. :cool:

Hi- I have 2 model 37s and like the rest of this mob, I want to date them.

One is a youth model 12 guage (odd choice for a gun that kicks harder than my wife) SN# ULT-371752999 Picture attached

The other is a 28 inch mod barrel SN#371563132

What years and approximate values?

I used to use a 37 for chukar hunting where the 3rd shot is very important. Too many times I pulled the trigger on the 3 shot to hear a "click" and then find a live one sitting between my feet.
I switched to an old 870 that will cycle anything except maybe a dog turd.
(Have not tried it but my guess is it would). The 870 is the most fool proof dependable pump known to man. I sure miss the light weight of the 37 but I kill more with the 870 and cuss a whole lot less.

Thanks.

I should mention, the youth model weighs about the same as a Daisy BB gun. It is perhaps the lightest shotgun I have ever held. It has a 26 inch Improved Bore Barrel.

Still hoping someone can help with the date of manufacture of my Model 37s:

SN# ULT-371752999

SN# 371563132

Thanks.

While we're asking about serial numbers and dates, what's the born on date of my newly-acquired featherlight?

SN 3716326xx.

Thanks in advance.


BTW, thanks guys. I noticed this gun last week and after reading this thread a couple times, decided to pull the trigger. Clay range report to follow.

While we're asking about serial numbers and dates, what's the born on date of my newly-acquired featherlight?

SN 3716326xx.

1978.

Still hoping someone can help with the date of manufacture of my Model 37s:

SN# ULT-371752999

SN# 371563132

1982 and 1976.

Thanks, Black Talon.


Same DOB as me. :D

okay, anyone know the year for these:

12 guage - #390312
16 guage - #407484

okay, anyone know the year for these:

12 guage - #390312
16 guage - #407484

Both of them are 1951 models.

anyone know the date for 90DU 37-2337

It doesn't seem to be widely known that the Ithaca Model 37 is based on a John M. Browning design, U.S. Patent No. 1,143,170, granted in 1915. This was the inventer's last design for a shotgun with a repeating action (but not his last shotgun design, which of course was the Superposed). His basic involvement helps explain the excellence of the gun and, to me, makes it even more attractive.

Apparently, the Model 37 started out as the Remingon Model 17. Then, after the patent expired, Ithaca adapted the design.

I picked up this info from a favorite book, John M. Browning: American Gunmaker, published by the Browning Arms Company.

Here is a link to a brief summary of the M37.

http://www.cruffler.com/historic-april00.html

date of birth?

#480581


thanks

date of birth?

#480581


thanks

1952.

Could I have the birthdate for my gun?

M37 s/n 235158

thanks.:)

Could I have the birthdate for my gun?

M37 s/n 235158

thanks.

1949.

Can I get a DOB for SN 485xx
Thanks Bill

Can I get a DOB for SN 485xx
Thanks Bill

1941.

Looking to get a date of manufacture on a 12-gauge Model 37 that was handed down from my great-grandfather. The serial number is 120475. Thanks for any help.

Looking to get a date of manufacture on a 12-gauge Model 37 that was handed down from my great-grandfather. The serial number is 120475. Thanks for any help.

1947.

I work at a major sporting goods store's firearm department and noticed a Ithaca model 37 featherweight. It's a 12 gauge with a 28 inch barrel. I put the gun on layaway. I believe that it is a deluxe model as it does not have the "ringtail" forearm. While not in great shape, the gun seems in good working order and I know that the company will not buy firearms that do not work. I bought it for $129 and got 20% off on my employee discount so it ended up at $110 with tax. The serial number is 371176801. This is my first Ithaca although I plan on buying a Mag 10 in the future and will inherit a NID 16 gauge from my uncle in the hopefully distant future. I would be grateful if I could find out the year of manufacture.

The serial number is 371176801. I would be grateful if I could find out the year of manufacture.

1971.

How about another year of manufacture?

Serial # 3017XX.

Thanks in advance!

Thank you Black Talon. I guess the gun was meant to be for me as that is the same year I was born.

Hey guys.. im a newbie to the Forum and pretty much a newbie to shotguns period. My grandfather died and left me an old Ithaca M37 12g featherweight which I didnt know much about and had it in my closet for a year I got it last Christmas from my grandma .. and decided this year to take it out of the case and shoot it. Man... this is a VERY nice gun! I love it! The model I have seems to have a little bit shorter of a barrel than most of the pictures Iv seen online of the same gun... I think mine is pretty old though... Black Talon you seem to know your stuff... Im sure you know what year the Serial # 52335 is. and from what I understand.. the barrel cant be replaced in this year gun? Its not that big of a deal... I just like to shoot duck and it dosnt seem to get a long range shot .. Im using steel 4 shot... I dont know if barrel length actually helps out with longer shots.. some people say it does and some people sa it wont... I dont really know.. but as I said not that big of a deal... what I would like to know is the year it was made and what kind of a model is it.. I mean it dosnt look like most of the ones i see as far as barrel length mostly... the rest of it pretty much looks the same as all the other M37's I love how the shells come out the bottom after they are shot very nice feature... I did read that Remington is the originator of this gun.. the M17 and M31 were basically the same as the M37. All i know is its very light.. very fast.. smooth .. and I like it... now if I can find me a good deal on a 20 guage model... :D

ok I wrote way too much... again Black_Talon my serial number is 52335

Thanks!

How about another year of manufacture?

Serial # 3017XX.

Thanks in advance!

1949.

ok I wrote way too much... again Black_Talon my serial number is 52335

Thanks!

Your M37 was built in 1942.

*and....*

I'm certainly no expert on steel shot in older guns (having never shot even one round of steel shot in my life), but I'd ask for some qualified advice before using it in a 60+ year old gun.

yeah .. thanks! well I didnt know it was that old! Iv only shot 2 steel shot out of it... I wont any more just in case.. Iv shot mostly just lead 8 shot at squirrels .. should i shoot it much any more at all? or just make sure i shoot lead out of it. can you shoot duck with lead? I thought it was illegal? I dont know like I said.. im a rookie at all this. glad i came here to learn a few things before i go and screw up a sweet gun! Thanks!

Hello all, I've enjoyed what I've seen here so far. Very interesting. I have a question about an Ithaca model 37 featherlight Riot gun. My father had used this on the police force back in the 60's. The serial # is 1010xxx. Any information on this shotgun would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I happen to own one that was purchased before the first time
they went out of bussiness. It was the delux Featherweight with
a grip cap on the stock with red back ground and a flying pheasant.
Forearm is beavertail shaped rather than round. 12gauge 2 3/4, it
came with a 28" mod vent. barrel. Through the years added 30" full
and 26" imp cyc. so I have a three barrel choice. My understanding
is the company is once again out of business! Condition is like new
without box or papers due being lost in a move. I can find nothing
of the value of this firearm with it's two extra barrels. I have no idea
what kind of a replacement value to put on it for insurance purposes.
Any ideas? Oops left out gold plated trigger, and checkered pistol
grip and forearm.:)

My understanding is the company is once again out of business! No, they're still operating, just not in Ithaca (http://www.ithacagunsusa.com). I think there was another change in ownership there. They were pretty quick in replying to my email about refinishing and doing some other work on my 37DS, a 1970 model.
I haven't dealt with, but have seen a lot of recommendations for Diamond Gunsmithing (http://www.diamondgunsmithing.com), which is in Ithaca, NY.

Hello all, I've enjoyed what I've seen here so far. Very interesting. I have a question about an Ithaca model 37 featherlight Riot gun. My father had used this on the police force back in the 60's. The serial # is 1010xxx. Any information on this shotgun would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Your gun was built in 1968.

I"ve been pretty lucky with Ithacas. Have 2 riot models and one regular. Picked up the regular for $100, hard chromed riot DSPS for $210 and a parked riot with brass bead for $275 :)

Did Ithaca make a hard chromed version? Not sure if it's factory or not. S/N on it is 15950xx , I think that makes it 1975 or 76? The parked one is 17154xx , early 80's?

I kinda like 'em, well any short shotgun, but particularly the M37 :D

hey im new to this web site, and i have a question. i just recieved a model 37 featherlight for christmas, i believe it was made early 80s maybe, with a fixed choke. does anyone know what the choke may be? mod,cyl? it would really help to find this out. i love the gun easy to rise and shoot fast. also how would it fair for a turkey hunt?:confused:

My chromed one doesn't seem to have the choke stamped on it, but my other 2 have it stamped on the left hand side, just ahead of where the bbl meets the receiver. The riot has CYL. and the 2 barrels for my other have SKT. and FULL.

If it isn't marked, I believe it can be measured and determined from there.

Welcome aboard :)

Did Ithaca make a hard chromed version? Not sure if it's factory or not. S/N on it is 15950xx , I think that makes it 1975 or 76? The parked one is 17154xx , early 80's?

Yes, Ithaca made hard chrome DSPS and M&P's. They also made (shiny) nickel ones as well (as well as blue and parked versions too :) ).

SN 15950xx is not a legitimate M37 SN. If you mean 3715950xx, that was built in 1976.

SN 17154xx is also not a legitimate M37 SN. If you mean 3717154xx, that was built in 1981.

hey im new to this web site, and i have a question. i just recieved a model 37 featherlight for christmas, i believe it was made early 80s maybe, with a fixed choke. does anyone know what the choke may be? mod,cyl? it would really help to find this out.

It could be any choke form IC to Mod to Full.

If it's a post 855,000 serial numbered gun, the choke will be marked on the left side of the barrel to the right, and below, the Ithaca factory stamping.

If it's a pre-855,000 gun, the choke will be marked as a "dash number" appended to the end of the gun's serial number, which is marked on the right side of the barrel over the chamber.

Black_Talon, Thanks for the info :)
Both serials had 37 before them, thought it was superfluous.

What exactly makes an M&P model? long mag tube and bead sight?

If I could bother you for another serial date, 37 13751xx That's my third that I gave to my father. Bought it for $100, blued with engraved receiver.

Thanks in advance :)

What exactly makes an M&P model? long mag tube and bead sight?

Typically (unfortunately, with Ithaca, there were no hard and fast with their configurations) the features of the M&P would be 1)unengraved receiver, 2) bead sight, 3) oil-finished stock (with or without checkering and with or w/o factory installed recoil pad). They were made in both the 5 round and 8 round configurations.

If I could bother you for another serial date, 37 13751xx That's my third that I gave to my father. Bought it for $100, blued with engraved receiver.

That one was built in 1974.

thanks talon! i have another question when was the gun made? the number on it is 3716070xx

when was the gun made? the number on it is 3716070xx

1977.

I have a pretty interesting story about mine. My father bought me a brand new 37 when I graduated from High School in 1974, about 5 yrs later it was stolen, and I was broken hearted over it for a long time. Then a couple years ago I picked up a used one at a pawn shop for $110 with a serial # of 1375xxx which if I am right puts it right at the same age.

I have a Model 37 that belonged to my Dad. The serial number is 631072 -2. How do I find out what year/month it was manufactured. It was always my understanding that my dad was out duck hunting with it the day I was born. Besides hunting with it a few times when I was a kid, I used it for trap & skeet shooting back in the mid 70's - nice gun.

Since I haven't used it in 30 years, any recommendations before I use it other than a good cleaning?

Thanks,

The serial number is 631072 -2. How do I find out what year/month it was manufactured.

Your gun was built in 1956. The "-2" at the end of the serial number indicates that the barrel is choked "modified".

First post, long time lurker. I was wondering if Talon could tell me about my 37 serial #5563xx Love this gun, have taken everything from turkey to quail with mine.

I am new to this forum, can anyone tell the year of birth for my Model 37 16 ga
serial number 3787XX

I was wondering if Talon could tell me about my 37 serial #5563xx

Your 37 was built in 1954.

Welcome to THR!!!

I am new to this forum, can anyone tell the year of birth for my Model 37 16 ga
serial number 3787XX

DOB = 1951

Im so upset:( . My Grandfather handed down a 12ga Model 37 Featherwieght, I took it in to a supposed "gunsmith" about 6 years ago to have it reblued. He told me he had to polish down certain spots because of pitting, I cant find the serial # !!. Can someone PLEASE help me ballpark the year of manufacture? My Dad says the gun was definatley manufactured before 1962, because thats the year he want in the service and knows that my grandfather had it long before that. The gun is a 12ga. featherwieght with a removable/interchangeable barrel and engraving of grouse on the side. Was there a year that Ithica started engraving flushed grouse on the side so I'll know its at least that old? I know Im asking alot here. I'll try to get any other info if someone asks me what to look for. Thanks in advance.

Thanks for the birth date Black_Talon

I cant find the serial # !!. Can someone PLEASE help me ballpark the year of manufacture?

Assuming you didn't actually buff off the serial number in the first place, I'll bet what you have is a "pre-855,00" serial numbered gun. You'll find the serial number in two separate places:

1) On the receiver. Look on the front face of the receiver, on the right side. It will be there.

2) On the barrel. Pre-855,000 guns (which is what yours would be if it truly is a 1962 model) have barrels that are fitted to each individual receiver so they are serial numbered to match the number on the receiver. The serial number on the barrel is located on the right side, over the area where the chamber is. It will be the same as the serial number on the receiver, but will be followed by a "dash number". This dash number indicates the choke that was in the barrel when it left the factory. For instance, if the serial number on the receiver is 805372, the barrel will be marked 805372-x, with the "x" being a digit from 0 to 5, depending on how the barrel was choked.

Bought a 1969 Ithaca 37 Featherlight (with engraved receiver) and 28-inch vent rib barrel for $175 and it was the best money I ever spent. Rock solid gun, never a problem, and the retro syle trumps other guns, especially the boring-as-macaroni 870. And bottom ejection is cool.

I'm new to THR, found this thread and read it with some interest. I have a model 37 featherweight, 1951, and am going to the shop tomorrow to pick up a 37 riot. What shot would one recommend for the riot 37 for home defense purposes? And what shot would you recommend for general target shooting? (More for fun than for patterning.)


Thanks.

I just found this forum.

I have a Model 37 Featherlight 16 gauge. It was given to me by my dad on my 16th birthday. Can I get a birthdate on it? It's been in the safe for 30+ years. Time to find some 16 gauge shells and shoot it, eh? It was hard to find a gun a left handed kid could use back then.

371065538.

marine71,

The best all around shotgun defense round is #1 buck. It provides more pellets (16) about 90% the size of 00 buck (9 pellets), so the energy transferred to the target is about 30% greater than with 00 buck. It can be hard to find, but any decent police supply store should have some in stock.

Black Talon, if you don't mind:

M 37 Serial # 371516138

Can you tell me the date of birth for it? Thanks.

I have a Model 37 Featherlight 16 gauge. It was given to me by my dad on my 16th birthday. Can I get a birthdate on it?

371065538.

1969.

M 37 Serial # 371516138

Can you tell me the date of birth for it? Thanks.

1975.

Thanks Black Talon

I should dig mine out and get you to do my serial numbers.

Hi, I just purchased a 16 gauge 37R.I don't know anything about this gun, the pin on the forearm cap do you just push it out and twist the cap or what, mine is very tight and I don't want to break something. A second question, I only see 1 set of numbers and it is on bottom of barrel near receiver. Should there be a serial number on the receiver somewhere? Could somebody tell me DOB for 762XX. Thanks Mac

the pin on the forearm cap do you just push it out and twist the cap or what, mine is very tight and I don't want to break something.

Yes, push the pin out, and turn the cap clockwise (when looking from the muzzle end). You'll actually be screwing the cap in but that's how M37's work. After you screw it in far enough it will clear the protrusion on the barrel lug and you will be able to turn the bbl 90° counter-clockwise (while looking from the muzzle end) and pull it straight off the receiver.

A second question, I only see 1 set of numbers and it is on bottom of barrel near receiver. Should there be a serial number on the receiver somewhere?

Yes, it's on the front of the receiver, on the right-hand side. Should match the number on the bbl, except for the extra digit on the bbl sequence, which denotes the choke.

Could somebody tell me DOB for 762XX.

I suspect that your "762xx" should actually be written as "762x-x" which would make your M37 a 1938 vintage gun.

Thanks Black Talon, I left the site and figured the cap out. I cleaned her up some, you sure this is a 1938 model? The forearm wood is excellent, this gun wasn't used much I suspect. Checked the serial numbers on receiver and barrel and they match. Kind of funny I always liked the 37's but don't use a shotgun much. Mostly pistol and rifle. I may have to try out my 5 month old grandson's "new" gun out at the trap or sporting clays. I'd hate to have to get him some other brand cause I like it too much. Black Talon, I take it you are the guru for the 37's. Thanks for the info. Mac P.S. The serial number is a 5 digit number 762XX. Is it still a 1938 specimen. I know it is pre 55 by the pin on the forearm cap.

Black_Talon, here's a couple more

371056672
476702 -4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/brentwal/DSC00330-5.jpg

The serial number is a 5 digit number 762XX. Is it still a 1938 specimen.

It's a 1948.

Black_Talon, here's a couple more

371056672
476702 -4

1969 and 1952.

Thanks

Black Talon, let me thank you on behalf of the board. You're putting in some time and effort for a bunch of us.

Thanks!!....

Just picked one up tonight at a local antique show, serial number 815682. Black_Talon, would you be so kind?

Thanks.

Just picked one up tonight at a local antique show, serial number 815682.

1962.

Thanks! Can't wait to shoot some clays with it this weekend. First timer.

I'm new to this forum. So thanks in advance to everyone. I have a M37 20ga serial # 964741 can anyone help me with the mfg date?

I have a M37 20ga serial # 964741 can anyone help me with the mfg date?

1966.

Home defence? Winchester Super X, 2 3/4" 00 Buck, 12 pellets. Surprisingly wide spread, even out of my 28-inch barrel. The other 2 3/4" loads, both 00 and 000, cluster too tightly, which isn't what you want in close quarters. You might even want to go with a smaller shot size, but your best bet is to play around, see what works. Patterns are fun, after all!

Hi All,

It's my first post on this great site. I just bought an Ithaca model 37 Featherlight in 12ga for $200CAN. I really like the feel of this shotgun although the barrel seems a bit long at 30". It has light engravings on each side of the reciever which is nice. the left side features ducks flying over a pond. The right side has a dog flushing 2 pheasants. It's serial # is 623185. The barrel also has a -4 after the serial #. Is it possible to buy extra barrels for this gun? I like the way the barrel is easily removed for cleaning & inspection. Is there anything I need to know about this shotgun? Thanks for your help.

George

it's serial # is 623185. The barrel also has a -4 after the serial #. Is it possible to buy extra barrels for this gun?


Your gun was built in 1956 and left the factory with a full choked barrel (that's what the "-4" after the serial number means). Any extra bbl would need to be professionally fitted by a gunsmith as this earlier gun was made before Ithaca redesigned their system to use interchangeable barrels.

Is there anything I need to know about this shotgun?

I wouldn't shoot steel shot in it.

Thanks for the info. This site is lucky to have you! I'm surprised the gun is that old as it looks in real good shape. What is the issue with steel shot? Does it cause more wear? & what would be the alternative. Lead in NOT allowed in Canada for migratory bird, & I hoped to use the gun for ducks & geese. Lead is O.K for Upland game here.

Regards,

George

George,

I think we have found similar firearms. I picked mine up for $200US at an antique auction. It is also a 30" and a -4 full choke. I took it out this weekend for the first time just shooting some random hand thrown things and I had a real hard time hitting them. The main reason was definitely inexperience, but the second reason might be the distance at which they were from me, maybe only 10-15 yards. I figure with the full choke, something out a bit further will be easier to hit with a little spread. I have been trying to buy clays locally and there are non to be found in Central FL. I ordered a case last week and I look forward to them coming in.

http://www.controlledexplosion.com/gallery2/d/3216-2/IMG_0679s.jpg

There's some nice looking guns on here. I found mine at the Ft. Worth gun show last year for $225. It's a 20 gauge with 26" vent rib barrel and came with Full, Modified, and Improved Cylinder Lyman Chokes. Sure makes a nice all-around lightweight gun. It was manufactured in 1969.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/w5lx/mod37rightside.jpg

Nice shotguns gentelmen. Here is a couple of pics of mine.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s68/glang1/Ithacam37engraving.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s68/glang1/Ithacam37fulllength.jpg

What a super job on dating all these wonderful shotguns. Mine is an Ithaca Model 37 DS Police Special, SN 1012XXX, If possible, I would like a date of manufacture. Thank you, Bill

Ithaca Model 37 DS Police Special, SN 1012XXX, If possible, I would like a date of manufacture.

1968.

And I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to see some pics of it. LE M37's are my specialty.

Zbill,
I would like to see pics of your Ithaca Model 37 DS Police Special also.

Black_Talon,
Do you know approx. how many m37 were produced over the years? I assume 12ga was the most popular?

George

Black_Talon
Senior Member





Quote:
Originally Posted by disco672
Ithaca model 37 with serial# 669361-2
Does anyone know the year it was made? Thanks
1957.

I guess this response answers my question. Mine has the serial number 669387-2....mine must be a close relative of discos'

Do you know approx. how many m37 were produced over the years? I assume 12ga was the most popular?


No, but there's production figures for each year, so I quess I could add them up.

Here's a hint though: there were a buttload of 'em made. :)

Black Talon and other - thanks for the input. This is not marked LE other than on the barrel. But it did come from the son of a LEO. I doubt if it was an issue weapon or even LEO, but were these available to the general public? How about the stock? I assume it is a replacement. Any input on the stock? Due to large pics, more on next post. Thanks Bill

of the DS Police Special, Bill

How about the stock? I assume it is a replacement. Any input on the stock?

Yes, the buttstock is certainly a replacement, and of course the recoil pad is aftermarket as well. Cracked buttstocks on M37's are pretty common, that could be the reason for the replacement.

Has the metal been refinished? It looks in very good condition, compared to the typical wear that's showing on the forend wood.

Thanks for the pics!

BTW, your gun has the relatively uncommon fixed (or "LAPD") style rear sight on it.

If I had to select refinished metal or not by the sharpness of the engraving and stamps I would guess original. It appears parkerized, but it is not a parked finish that I know. I would appreciate any more available info on the LAPD rear sight. Bill

716714-2 thanks

716714-2 thanks

1958.

Must've been this thread that pushed me off the bubble.

A 37 materialized at my dealer - didn't know they came "870TB pretty" which is to say "nice wood with impressed checkering". It still had the forestock sticker proclaiming "Walnut".

Anybody know if the grip cap was OEM?

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=52786&d=1170851250

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=52787&d=1170851269

I traded for a 1975 vintage Deerslayer with the elevation adjustable iron sights. The rear sight appears to have bases for scope rings cut into it, but the width seems odd. They seem more narrow than standard scope rings. any advise that can be offered is appreciated. I am hoping to stay away from a B-Square style mount.

Anybody know if the grip cap was OEM?

Yes, it is. It's a "Sid Bell Gripcap" and showed up on several different versions of the M37 starting in the late '70's. What is the serial number of your new gun?

Black Talon:

S/N ULT-371668033

Thanks for all your efforts in this thread. This is my first M37 and without doubt the prettiest I've ever seen apart from the engraved examples.

Possibly not all that practical - fixed full choke 20Ga - not sure what one uses that for, but I'm ready to learn.

Black Talon:

S/N ULT-371668033

1978. (happens to be the first year for the Sid Bell gripcap too, IIRC)

Oh, and you realize that the "ULT" prefix indicates that it's one of the Ultralights, right? Schweeet guns. '78 was the first year for them too. Aluminum receiver and trigger plate to save weight. I believe Ithaca advertised them at 5.5lbs.

Oh, and you realize that the "ULT" prefix indicates that it's one of the Ultralights, right? Schweeet guns. '78 was the first year for them too. Aluminum receiver and trigger plate to save weight. I believe Ithaca advertised them at 5.5lbs.

I can believe that - my RCBS fishscale... unh ... trigger gauge is actually showing a skosh under 5 pounds. Whether it's my ratty trigger gauge or the fact that my ULT is 20Ga, I will defer to those more knowledgable than myself.

One thing fercryinoutloud certain - it sure feels like it isn't even there compared to the O/U or the 870TB.

Another fercertain observation is the fact that I don't believe in safe queens - whoever had it before me evidently did - no real wear on the action bar, original store stickers on the stock. I've removed the sticker and this babe is going to have wear marks soon - it's just too nice not to shoot.

:D

Hi i have a mod. 37 from my grandfather that has ser number 206590 could you tell me how old this is i think it is somtime in the 1940s thanks

Hi i have a mod. 37 from my grandfather that has ser number 206590

1949.

Hi Black_Talon,

My friend just pulled out his Father's m37 serial 576249. He's curious about it's age. Thanks in advance for your time.

Regards,

George

PS: I put a few shells through my newly aquired m37. Nice pattern at 30yrds with the full choke & #6 shot. Can't wait for Spring turkey coming soon!

m37 serial 576249. He's curious about it's age.

1955.

Had one, can't answer your question, best shotgun i ever owned...don't have it anymore:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/6020/dsc04186cl6.th.jpg (http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04186cl6.jpg)

12 ga Ithaca Model 37 Featherlight with engraving. SN # 745120-4

--How much is it worth with some wear, and how old is it? Thanks alot.

SN # 745120-4

--How much is it worth with some wear, and how old is it? Thanks alot.

Made in 1959. Worth $200-250 depending on condition and geographic local.

Hi BlackTalon,
Have a mdl 37 "Riot" SN 371562XXX. Not marked police or anything like that. Has the 20" barrel, full length 7rd mag tube, parkerized finish, satin wood with checkering, plain receiver (no engraving) and flip up rifle sights. Barrel is marked Featherweight and Cyl. Can you tell me when it was made and any other info on it???

Thanks.

Figured that I would post a pic of my 37's. Why not?

Hi BlackTalon,
Have a mdl 37 "Riot" SN 371562XXX. Not marked police or anything like that. Has the 20" barrel, full length 7rd mag tube, parkerized finish, satin wood with checkering, plain receiver (no engraving) and flip up rifle sights. Barrel is marked Featherweight and Cyl. Can you tell me when it was made and any other info on it???

Thanks.

Your gun was made in 1976. M37's never came with "flip up" sights. The correct barrel for a non-engraved" receiver would be one with the plain M&P brass bead on it. Just a day or two ago, I saw one for sale (on Gunbroker, IIRC) that sounds exactly like yours. It had an aftermarket ramp front sight and a Williams-type folding rear sight on it.

While I'm at it, I'll answer your PM questions here too:

The barrel if a 20" model with iron flip up sights and is marked cylinder bore. After I gave the barrel a good scrubbing with bore cleaner and a brass brush I shined a light down it and noticed that the last 2-3 inches towards the muzzle have what look to be some rough machining marks (not "rough" that you can feel, but you can see the cylindrical maching marks compared to the mirror finish of the rest of the bore). Is this perhaps where they machined the barrel to the "cyl" choke at the factory?? I did notice that the rest of the bore also has similar machine looking markings, but they appear much lighter.

"Cyl" bore is just that, a straight tube that is the same diameter all the way from the end of the forcing cone to the muzzle. There shouldn't be any marking on it at all. Is the bbl marked "Cyl"on the left side right ahead of the receiver?

I've not seen a shotgun barrel before with these type of markings and was curious if this was somehow a result of the "roto forging"??

No, the Roto-forged bbls are very smooth inside.

The bore does have some minor scratching, but not bad for a 30+yr old gun, and not pitting or rust. One other odd thing I noticed though is about 5-6 inches from the muzzle you can see a small (maybe 1/4") imperfection in the mirror finish. Its hard to describe, but it almost looks like a very slightly raised pock mark. I ran a cleaning rod over it and you can ever so lightly feel it with the rod as it passes over the area. There is no dent or bulge in the barrel, so I wonder if this again was just a defect during machining??

Sure sounds like a dent to me. The way these bbls are made, there's no way to end up with any sort of "bubble" in the wall.

Finally, are the newer barrels marked 2-3/4" or 3" interchangeable with my gun?? I know my gun is 2-3/4" only, but I have to be honest and say I don't know if that is determined by the barrel or the receiver? I came across a ported turkey barrel that I would like to install if it will fit?

Yes, any of the post 855,000 bbls marked 2-3/4" or 3" will fit your gun, but you can not shoot 3" shells as your gun will not feed/eject them correctly. One caveat though. You say you have a 7-shot gun, which means that your bbl lug will be positioned right up near the muzzle of the barrel. Standard M37 4-shot bbls will not fit on your gun because the bbl lug will be in the wrong place. If your gun is a 7 shot, you can only use other 7 shot bbls as replacements, which seriously limits your selection, as the vast majority on them will be LE 20" bbls.

S/N ULT-371668033

Thanks for all your efforts in this thread. This is my first M37 and without doubt the prettiest I've ever seen apart from the engraved examples.

Possibly not all that practical - fixed full choke 20Ga - not sure what one uses that for, but I'm ready to learn.

Got one ULT3717x in 12ga pad and Sid Bell cap. One of my preferred uplands along with a Winchester Model 59 and a Franchi 48/AL 20ga.

I have 2 M-37s (1 feather light from the 1950's) and a M&P from 2000 with a plain 20" barrel. I have been having problems with shells sticking in the chamber when the gun gets hot. First time it happened I sent it back to the factory and they replaced the extractor springs. It still does it but not as often. I have now noticed the same thing is occurring on the one I have from the 50's. (I sometimes take it out to the desert and shoot alot of trap).

Has anyone else had this problem? Do you think polising the chamber with a Flex-Hone will help? Or should I send this one back to the factory too.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Does anyone know what the standard trigger weight(pull) on an M37? Mine seems to be around 11lbs. Is there a way to adjust this. Most of my other guns have a trigger weight around 4lbs.

Hi. First timer here. Very interesting stuff! I do have a question. I have a model 37 with the numbers 371418XXX. Could you please tell me the year this was made and also can I get interchangable barrels for this. Thanks!

I have an Ithaca model 37 featherlight with a serial # 769316-4
Just wondering how old this gun would be. Thanks

I have a model 37 with the numbers 371418XXX. Could you please tell me the year this was made and also can I get interchangable barrels for this. Thanks!

Your gun was made in 1975.

And yes, any post 855,000 barrel will fit your gun with no gunsmithing needed.

I have an Ithaca model 37 featherlight with a serial # 769316-4

It was made in 1960.

Since were posting serial numbers for dates... ;)

3716957**

Thanks!

Since were posting serial numbers for dates...

3716957**

1980.

Black Talon,
I would appreciate the dates for my two Ithaca 37s
608990 & 782055

Thanks!!
Northerner

Black Talon,
I would appreciate the dates for my two Ithaca 37s
608990 & 782055

1956 and 1961.

Thank you oh great and wonderous wealth of Ithaca knowledge ;)

I was helping my Uncle clean a old house of his and found a model 37. He gave it to me for helping him clean the house out. The SN 145716 can i get a date on this gun.

Thanks

KW

The SN 145716 can i get a date on this gun

1947.


Does your uncle have any other houses that need cleaning?

Thanks Black Talon,

I guess I should do a little cleaning on this gun. I have had it in the safe for a bit just didn't think much of it. I figgured it wasn't much, so there it sat along side my first shot gun I bought 20 years ago (Sears JC Higgins)

LOL you will have to pish me outta the way when he want me to help out again.

It was looking for information on Ithaca shotguns that led me to this website. This shotgun section rocks! Had to join.:)
Just received a new to me model37 this afternoon. It has a 20" barrel. Is that rare in a non police model? Its # is 1691xx.

Can anyone fill me in on the date of manufacture and any info on the configuration? The good news is I have another one on the way that I'm going to use for trap.

Quick 'edit' question: what is the cross pin on the magazine nut supposed to do?

Cheers

Another question for the well informed on here:D Picked up a Ithaca 37 20ga Featherlight with the serial number: 77232*

What's the date of manufacture for this one and what numbered barrels can I use on it? Thanks

Picked up a Ithaca 37 20ga Featherlight with the serial number: 77232*

What's the date of manufacture for this one and what numbered barrels can I use on it? Thanks

It was made in 1959.

The only barrel you can use on it is one numbered 77232*. Any other barrel would have to be fitted by a gunsmith. The barrels on the pre-855,000 guns were not interchangeable without professional fitting.

Black_Talon,

To reiterate what Dave said earlier-

Thank you for all your time, effort, sharing of knowledge , with assisting folks and educating everyone in this thread.

Steve

I'll include an earlier post if anyone can help...

[I wrote]It was looking for information on Ithaca shotguns that led me to this website. This shotgun section rocks! Had to join.
Just received a new to me 12ga model37 this afternoon. It has a 20" barrel. Is that rare in a non police model? Its # is 1691xx.

Can anyone fill me in on the date of manufacture and any info on the configuration? The good news is I have another one on the way that I'm going to use for trap.

Quick 'edit' question: what is the cross pin on the magazine nut supposed to do?
[/QUOTE]

Now I've received a second one . It is also a 12ga model37, this time with a 30" barrel. It's # is 759116x-x and does not have the cross pin in the magazine nut.

Any help would be appreciated and it is really tempting to start collecting these.

Cheers

I came across an Ithica model 37 12 Guage pump last year and fell head over heels for it. The problem is i know very little about it. I would like to take it turkey hunting this year but am needing info on what type of barell i need. It has on the recever MAG-870011831 with a parkerized finished look to it there is not engraving on the receiver and the cap is black with white ithica lettering on it . It has a DEERSLAYER model 37 12 guage 2 3/4 chambered barell with a fiber optic front and adjust. rear that looks like it has a groove that some type of scope would fit on itt, it is blued not parkerized. i would like to find a turkeyslayer barell for it and have but i dont know if it will fit on this gun? can anyone give me any info about the age and barell, Turkey season is 2 weeks away and i am desperate for info. also with the mag on the reciver will it shoot 3 inch as well as 2 3/4 in a turkeyslayer barell?:banghead: please help. Thanks in advance.
P.S.
Or if anyone knows or has a turkeyslayer camo for sale i would love to know. also interested on the going price for this gun ( not gona sell it, but am going to add to the collection) there is going to be an 870 and 11-87 on the market

Thanks Black Talon:) This Ithaca looks like it has been through a war but I'm giving it a little TLC to bring it back. Works great just looks bad.

[I wrote]It was looking for information on Ithaca shotguns that led me to this website. This shotgun section rocks! Had to join.
Just received a new to me 12ga model37 this afternoon. It has a 20" barrel. Is that rare in a non police model? Its # is 1691xx.Can anyone fill me in on the date of manufacture and any info on the configuration? The good news is I have another one on the way that I'm going to use for trap.

Your gun is a 1948 model, and as far as I've been able to figure out, no "police" versions were made, so yours is undoubtedly just a cut down barrel. What is the serial number (including the "dash" number) that's stamped on the bbl. The "dash" will tell you what choke was originally on the bbl.


Quick 'edit' question: what is the cross pin on the magazine nut supposed to do?


It pushes out to act as a little lever to help loosen or tighten the mag cap. Was discontinued in '53/54, IIRC.

Now I've received a second one . It is also a 12ga model37, this time with a 30" barrel. It's # is 759116x-x and does not have the cross pin in the magazine nut.

Any help would be appreciated and it is really tempting to start collecting these.

"759116x" is not a legit Ithaca serial number, it's one digit too long. Assuming it's "759xxx", it was made in 1960.

It has on the recever MAG-870011831 with a parkerized finished look to it there is not engraving on the receiver and the cap is black with white ithica lettering on it . It has a DEERSLAYER model 37 12 guage 2 3/4 chambered barell with a fiber optic front and adjust. rear that looks like it has a groove that some type of scope would fit on itt, it is blued not parkerized. i would like to find a turkeyslayer barell for it and have but i dont know if it will fit on this gun? can anyone give me any info about the age and barell, Turkey season is 2 weeks away and i am desperate for info. also with the mag on the reciver will it shoot 3 inch as well as 2 3/4 in a turkeyslayer barell? please help. Thanks in advance.

Well, it looks like you have a 1988 gun, with a non-original barrel on it. The mag gun should have a mag barrel, so apparently the original was replaced at some point. Any standard, post 855,000 barrel will work on that gun.

Hey, thanks Mr Blacktalon for the info:D

The number with the dash is 1691xx-4. actually, the number is 4 above the serial number and is followed by a dash. The data stamp on the barrel says it is "full".

Thanks again

Quote:
It has on the recever MAG-870011831 with a parkerized finished look to it there is not engraving on the receiver and the cap is black with white ithica lettering on it . It has a DEERSLAYER model 37 12 guage 2 3/4 chambered barell with a fiber optic front and adjust. rear that looks like it has a groove that some type of scope would fit on itt, it is blued not parkerized. i would like to find a turkeyslayer barell for it and have but i dont know if it will fit on this gun? can anyone give me any info about the age and barell, Turkey season is 2 weeks away and i am desperate for info. also with the mag on the reciver will it shoot 3 inch as well as 2 3/4 in a turkeyslayer barell? please help. Thanks in advance.

Well, it looks like you have a 1988 gun, with a non-original barrel on it. The mag gun should have a mag barrel, so apparently the original was replaced at some point. Any standard, post 855,000 barrel will work on that gun.


Thanks Talon for the quick response. I was wondering if you knew of any place to look online for a original barell and what kind it should be? Also does the shotgun have the ability to shoot 3 inch shell and if so what would you recomend for a barell selection.

Hi all,

I've browsed through this BB before and this time I was Googling around for some info on my Ithaca and it brought me here... it looks like I'm in the right place!

Black Talon, you mentioned previously that you have an interest in LE M37's. Here's mine:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/UKMuppet/M37-001.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/UKMuppet/M37-002.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/UKMuppet/M37-003.jpg

As you can see, it has a 24" barrel, 7 shot magazine and rifle sights (the rear is not original) and my local gunsmith lopped 5/8" off the stock to fit me better.
It also has a slam-fire trigger group.

I bought it at the beginning of last year and it's already won me my first ever gold medal at Bisley in a slug match - I'll never part with it! They're quite thin on the ground here in the UK but it's more than the novelty factor that makes me want to keep it.

I'm guessing it's 1982 vintage judging by other serial no's on this thread and there's a stamp on the barrel with what looks like LP over 82.

Two questions:

Does anyone know where I can obtain an original rear sight? Numrich appear to be sold out.

And Black Talon, I hate to impose, but is there any chance you could give me the definitive birth date for this gun, serial number: MAG-3717403XX?


Regards,

Pumper

Does anyone know where I can obtain an original rear sight? Numrich appear to be sold out.

Well, if you're quick, you can bid on this group of them for sale on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180106253270&rd=1&rd=1).

And Black Talon, I hate to impose, but is there any chance you could give me the definitive birth date for this gun, serial number: MAG-3717403XX?

1982.

I was wondering if you knew of any place to look online for a original barell and what kind it should be?

ebay.

Les Hovencamp at www.diamondgunsmithing.com

Ron Sharp in Ontario, Canada at 905-774-6368

Also does the shotgun have the ability to shoot 3 inch shell and if so what would you recomend for a barell selection.

Not with the current barrel that's on it. With a real 3" barrel you'll be golden.

Thanks Black Talon, you've been most helpful.

Pumper.

I just recently got a model 37 featherlight passed down to me from my grandfather (OK, I rescued it from my grandmothers attic) and was wondering what year it was made in.
It has engravings of ducks in a pond on one side and birds and a dog on the other.
"Ithaca Model 37 Featherlight R-12 GA-2 3/4 chamber-proof tested"
"Ithaca Gun CO,INC,Ithaca,NY - made in USA - roto forged"
serial # is 991599

TIA :)

serial # is 991599

1967.

tyvm :)

Just looking at all the responses from Black Talon concerning Mod 37, I just have to ask my question.

BT, I have a 12Ga Ithaca 37 - T, SN 881xx Judging from your earlier responses it was probably mnfgd between 1942 and 1947, but I could you tell me the exact year?

Aslo, it has a " - T" after the model # What does this mean?

It has a factory recoil pad and a fore-end much differnt than those posted pictures that I have seen on this site. Attached are some photos, showing the bbl markings and the fore-end.

BT, I have a 12Ga Ithaca 37 - T, SN 881xx Judging from your earlier responses it was probably mnfgd between 1942 and 1947, but I could you tell me the exact year?

My 2 cents: Please don't "x" out the digits of the serial number. It really doesn't do anything to help you.

That said, I can't tell you what year your gun is because the numbers are "x'd" out. :)

If it's less than 88,150, it's 1942.

If it's between 88151 and 88300 it's 1946.

Aslo, it has a " - T" after the model # What does this mean?

Means it's one of the "Trap" models.

Looks like 88147 is a 1942 model, Thanks again.

Black Talon,

Crud, I just checked the SN again this morning and its 88714 not --147. This is not in either the 1942 or 46 range. What would it be then?

Also, because it's a trap model, does this change the value? Is it a "Relic?"

I've never shot it, but is was my dad's, who swore by it before he started using a SxS Zabala. I prefer my 12 Ga Wingmaster (Upland) for just about anything, after unsucessfully following my dad's leaning toward SxS. Since the modern shells are so good at preserving patterns from a shorter bbl, I really like them 26" or less. Since the Ithaca is fixed choked full and is 30", I probably would either keep is as is and rarely shoot it, or sell it and look into a 16 or 20 Ga with a shorter bbl. This 37 is a beautiful piece with the hand chekering and bluing mostly intact, but would having it refinished change the value?

Seeing all the Ithaca 37 enthusiast on this site, and my preference for the pump, I'd really like to look into another 37 if I choose not to keep this one.

I just checked the SN again this morning and its 88714 not --147. This is not in either the 1942 or 46 range. What would it be then?

1947.

Also, because it's a trap model, does this change the value? Is it a "Relic?"

Well, I'm no expert on gun values, but since (relatively speaking) very few Trap M37's were made, and they generally seem to have nice wood, as well as the vent rib on them, I'd expect they'd be worth some amount more than a standard M37 of the same age.

Thanks again Blace Talon. Your right, the wood on the shotgun is quite nice.

Black Talon, came across this thread looking for info on an Ithaca model 37 featherweight I just bought from my brother in law for $100. The serial # is
371717752. He has painted it green, but it looks to be nickel. The barrel is
19.5" long measured from the receiver, and it has a pistol grip on it. I have never seen one like this, are they common? Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mark

Black Talon, came across this thread looking for info on an Ithaca model 37 featherweight I just bought from my brother in law for $100. The serial # is
371717752. He has painted it green, but it looks to be nickel. The barrel is
19.5" long measured from the receiver, and it has a pistol grip on it. I have never seen one like this, are they common? Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mark

That's a 1981 gun and it's quite possible that it came from the factory in nickel with the pistolgrip. Ithaca was doing a lot of those around then. They had some sort of catchy name for them that escapes me right now.

Thank you sir. The PG does appear to be factory. I think I'll change it out
for a buttstock.

Mark

I'm fairly new to hunting and recently bought an Ithaca 37 w/ a deerslayer barrel hoping I could interchange it with my father's bird barrel from another I-37, but the threading doesn't match. The numer on mine is: 371541022. How might a find an interchangable bird barrel? Any advice is greatly appreciated!

The serial number on your Dad's 37 is under 855,000 correct? All 37 made before this number had to have spare barrels fitted at the factory. In 1963 Ithaca changed the threads on their barrels so they could be interchange w/o factory fitting. The orginial Deerslayer was introduced in 1960 these needed to have standard barrels hand fitted.
If your Dad's 37's has a serial number over 855,000 have a gunsmith look at it, I have found that on some of the post 855,000 guns need a little work to make spare barrels fit right. If you want to try it yourself, use anti-seizing grease and remove any burrs you find on the threads. If you get it to start on the receiver go slow, keep working it back and forth. If the barrel sticks back it off. Use a strap wrench to turn the barrel, you can get them from Sears. Don't use any other type of wrench on the barrel, it will mar or damage the barrel. Your Deerslayer was made in 1975.
I really enjoy 37's I have 18 of them.

I appreciate the information... I'll have to have my father get his serial number. I have tried interchanging the barrels from the two 37's and remember one fitting very loosely and the other may not have fit at all. If my I-37 is from 1975, can I get a new or used bird barrel that will fit my gun? Is there a way to tell if a barrel's threads will match without physically trying, like if I wanted to purchase one online? I'd love to find one to buy!

Thanks NJ Native.

I'm on vacation, so I don't have access to my collection. But if I remember correctly if you look at the threads, on a new barrel (over 855,000) there is a lip at the very end. The old barrels do not have that lip.
You can still find barrels with fixed chokes and screw in chokes, try Gun Digest (formerly Gun List) look under the barrel listing. The barrel with screw in chokes run about $200. (the chokes are the same as Win Chokes, on the 12 ga guns, True chokes on the 20 ga ).
Watch out for cut off barrels, the are a lot of them around.
If you think you have the correct barrel for your gun and you can't get it started on the receiver, try loosening the yoke (the horseshoe bracket that is attached to the magazine tube) then try it. Make sure when you tighten the screw on the yoke again that you leave a equal space on each side of the barrel.
I have some spare barrels, new style, that fit loose, even one that spins 360, and it shoots just fine.
With the Deerslayer I found that standard Win slugs give the best groupes, what are you using?

Hello boys. It's been a dream of mine for years to convert my 1983 vintage model 37 four-shot riot gun to a seven-shot mag with the appropriate barrel. Is it possible that this gent at Diamond Gunsmithing could do this work?

Thanks.

Black Talon, as others have stated thanks for the amount of effort you are putting into this thread.

I have been combing the local pawn shops for an 870 Wingmaster or 870 Police, but I went into one the other day and saw the distinctive mag tube front that Ithaca M37s have. I seem to recall my father, (Who is a die-hard 870 fan,) say that M37s were solid and reliable. So, I took a look at it, it didn't seem to beat up, (Though it IS well-used,) and I got them to come down to $120.

I left a short while later with a 28" Mod barreled Featherweight with an Orange hi-vis sight on the front. It has the standard engraving, and the SerNo is 909187. Would you be able to tell me the date? Thanks again.

What sort of maintenance does this shotgun require as a general rule?

. double post .

mine is serial 542866-4 full choke feather light can I get a date pretty please!!?
I tried guns and ammo but they won't.
Thanks

Hello boys. It's been a dream of mine for years to convert my 1983 vintage model 37 four-shot riot gun to a seven-shot mag with the appropriate barrel. Is it possible that this gent at Diamond Gunsmithing could do this work?

Thanks.

Yes, it could be done, but you'd have to come up with not only the barrel, but also the extended mag tube for it. If anyone could do it, Les at Diamond Gunsmithing would be the one.

and the SerNo is 909187. Would you be able to tell me the date? Thanks again.

1965.

mine is serial 542866-4 full choke feather light can I get a date pretty please!!?

1952.

really thanks man that is cool ,
love that gun

Thanks again, BT

Does anybody know who makes synthetic replacement stocks for the 37? Are they universal fit? I am trying to fit a 16 ga. Will a 12 ga stock fit it?

Does anybody know who makes synthetic replacement stocks for the 37?

Choate did/does, but I think they were pistolgrip only.

Are they universal fit? I am trying to fit a 16 ga. Will a 12 ga stock fit it?

Ithaca 37 receivers are different sizes in each of the three different gauges that they were made in. One will not fit the other. Receiver width is common between all three, but height is different.

Thanks B-T. Bummer- I don't think I've seen synthetic stocks listed for the 16 ga. I guess I'll have to look harder. I was going to Tupperware and Duracote an old 37 beater.

I've been using federal rifled slugs for the past two years.

One that I am interested in is 528564-2. From your answers to previous inquiries I put it at 1953- Am I close? And with a modified barrel.

Quote:
I was wondering if Talon could tell me about my 37 serial #5563xx

Your 37 was built in 1954.

Welcome to THR!!!


Black_Talon

I am new to this forum, can anyone tell the year of birth for my Model 37 16 ga
serial number 3787XX

DOB = 1951

One that I am interested in is 528564-2. From your answers to previous inquiries I put it at 1953- Am I close? And with a modified barrel.

Yes, 1953, modified.

My model 37 has the interchangable barrel so I keep the 20" on it for house defense. I bought the gun in 1976 for $150 at a gun shop in Mt Dora, Florida.

The S/N is 935715. Can you tell me when the gun was manufactured?

What did they sell for New.

Don

S/N 935715 What year was it made? and What would the gun have sold for new. MSRP?

I appreciate your help

Don

1966, and the closest price list I have is 1967. The standard grade sold for $107.95, and the most expensive "Supreme Grade" with fancy wood and a vent-rib bbl went for $184.95. There were several other models that fell within that range.

Hello boys. It's been a dream of mine for years to convert my 1983 vintage model 37 four-shot riot gun to a seven-shot mag with the appropriate barrel. Is it possible that this gent at Diamond Gunsmithing could do this work?

Was in a shop in Agoura Hills, California this past weekend and they had an older 7 shot barrel and tube set for sale.

PM me if you want the details.

Was in a shop in Agoura Hills, California this past weekend and they had an older 7 shot barrel and tube set for sale.

PM me if you want the details.

PM sent.

Drat! I used to live in L.A., and a good buddy lives in Agoura Hills. Now I'm thousands of miles away, but in a gun-friendlier state.

Thanks for the thought.

Here's a great Ithaca 37 movie moment:

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"Come with me if you want to live!"

I have an Ithaca model 37 Fatherlight shotgun serial number 371362242.
And would like to know how old it is.Can any body help me Thank you.

I have an Ithaca model 37 Fatherlight shotgun serial number 371362242.
And would like to know how old it is.Can any body help me Thank you.

1974.

I have an Ithaca 37 featherlight 16 ga. with serial no. 432383 with no. 4 stamped under the serial no. Can you tell me the manufacture date? Thanks.

Mark A5:
I estimate 1952 based on Black Talon's previous posts at the beginning of this thread.

I have an Ithaca 37 featherlight 16 ga. with serial no. 432383

1952. :)

Thanks Black Talon and Grayrock!

Hi, new here so if I screw this up...my apologies! My dad gave me his Ithaca 37. I am just checking for date or other info based on the serial number 371469203. What I really want to know is if I can change to a shorter barrel (Deerslayer) for defensive reasons. And if you can interchange to polycarbonite? stock and butt? Thanks!

Hi, new here so if I screw this up...my apologies! My dad gave me his Ithaca 37. I am just checking for date or other info based on the serial number 371469203. What I really want to know is if I can change to a shorter barrel (Deerslayer) for defensive reasons. And if you can interchange to polycarbonite? stock and butt? Thanks!

Your gun was built in 1980.

Yes, you can change to a shorter barrel. Any barrel without a serial number on it will fit your M37 (well, within gauge at least :) ).

There have been some plastic stocks made for M37s that will work. I'm not too up to speed on current availability though.

This is a great thread - thanks to all!
Black Talon, I'm hoping you will be willing to do yet another SN:
371184453
Also, stamped on the left side of the barrel, below the chamber/manufacture info, are the letters 'mod' (although it is remotely possible it is 'mou'). Does this mean it's a modified choke?
Thanks in advance...

371184453
Also, stamped on the left side of the barrel, below the chamber/manufacture info, are the letters 'mod' (although it is remotely possible it is 'mou'). Does this mean it's a modified choke?

1971, and yes, the choke is Modified, assuming that it hasn't been worked-on.

Thank you so much!

I have a model 37R Ithaca featherweight in 20 ga. The serial number is 5015XX. Can someone tell me the year it was manufactured? Furthermore, this gun has a modified barrel and in the remote chance I could find a improved cylinder barrel for it what do I need to look for re: the barrel lock-in? I understand that at some past date Ithaca changed the barrel lock-in mechanism and I need to know whether this gun predates or postdates that.

Thanks in advance.

I have a model 37R Ithaca featherweight in 20 ga. The serial number is 5015XX. Can someone tell me the year it was manufactured? Furthermore, this gun has a modified barrel and in the remote chance I could find a improved cylinder barrel for it what do I need to look for re: the barrel lock-in? I understand that at some past date Ithaca changed the barrel lock-in mechanism and I need to know whether this gun predates or postdates that.

Your gun was made in 1952 and predates the interchangeable barrel models (anything post 855,000) by around 11 years. Any pre-855,000 numbered barrel that you could find would have to be headspaced for your gun by a qualified gunsmith.

Thanks very much, Black Talon. And since today is my first trek down this High Road, can you tell me how to print your response so I can put it into my records? I can seem to "figger" it out.

I have a m37, 20" barrel, vent rib, serial number 778296-2. Could you please give me the year this gun was manufactured?

Thanks, Tom

I have a m37, 20" barrel, vent rib, serial number 778296-2. Could you please give me the year this gun was manufactured?

It was made in 1960.

Oh, and "20" barrel, vent rib"? Must be cut down from it's original length, eh?

I have an M37 in the 20 gauge flavor with a 28" barrel and a serial number 147555. Can anyone tell me what year it was made?

I also see that by my serial number I can't interchange the barrel myself, should I use that as an excuse to buy another shotgun? I love shooting this gun, but the long barrel and full choke don't always suit what I'm wanting to do.

Excellent choice! I have two Ithaca 37's. My 20 ga with a 28" Full and 26" IC barrels was the first shotgun I ever owned. Boy was that a special Christmas for a 12 year old kid! I also have a late 70's vintage 12 ga 37 3" mag with a cutts compensator. Talk about loud! No one wanted to share a duck blind with me.:D

I have an M37 in the 20 gauge flavor with a 28" barrel and a serial number 147555. Can anyone tell me what year it was made?

1947.

1947.

Thank you Black_Talon. I believe it was a 16th birthday present for my Grandpa, and that date helps confirm that.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! --Benjamin Franklin

p8riot Hey, you stole my signature!:D

Black Talon ~ Thank you for being of great service to everyone. We recently aquired my father inlaws firearms. One of them happen to be a Model 37 with a serial number 3713798XX When you get a change and if'n you dont mind could you give me some info on it? Thanks in advance!

I am going to try trap shooting for the first time this week, and have to choose between using a Model 37 20 guage full choke, or a Winchester Model 12, 16 guage full choke. Both have long barrels, both feel comfortable shouldered, both have steel receivers.:confused:
Any advice?

We recently aquired my father inlaws firearms. One of them happen to be a Model 37 with a serial number 3713798XX When you get a change and if'n you dont mind could you give me some info on it? Thanks in advance!

1974.

Does someone make a mag extension tube for the Model 37?

Thanks,

Jeff

Does someone make a mag extension tube for the Model 37?

Thanks,

Jeff

Nope. Mag extension won't work like they do on 870s and Mossy 5xx's because the M37 has a lug on the barrel that gets in the way. The only way (and I'm sure it would be prohibitively expensive) to put an extended mag tube on a M37 would be to have a gunsmith remove the barrel lug and resolder it further on up the barrel. Of course you'd also have to come up with a 7-shot mag tube as well.

I have so many. First of all, I know that there is a weight difference between some of the ithica 37 models. Does anyone know how that is possible. Thinner steel, etc...?

I just recieved a ithaca model 37 from my grandpa and i was wondering a little bit about it. the serial number is 371571852 and on the other side it it says ithaca model 37 featherlight -12 ga. 2 3/4 chamber proof tested roto forged. it is a short barreled between 18 and 20"

I was just wondering if anyone knew what year it was made and what kind of choke it has on it and if it would be ok to dove hunt with it.

Your gun was built in 1976.

The choke should be marked on the left side of the barrel, just slightly ahead of the receiver. It's possible that your 18-20" barrel was cut down from the original length barrel, in which case the factory choke designation would no longer apply and it would be a "cylinder bore" gun.

I haven't hunted doves (or anything else, for that matter) for 30 years, so my memory is hazy, but don't most people use at least a "Modified" choke for dove?