Air-Gun Robber shot by real-gun pistol, shotgun


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Sean Dempsey
October 20, 2006, 03:00 PM
BOOM! Good for the clerk.

Robber Gunned Down in Hugo
Hugo Robber Shot by Clerk

A man suspected of robbing a liquor store in Hugo, Oklahoma was shot twice by the clerk of that store on Thursday night. The masked man held up West Main Liquor, but didn't expect the clerk to fight back.

The following is a news release of the event from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation:

At approximately 6:30 Thursday evening, a man wearing a ski mask and brandishing what appeared to be a .45 semi-automatic handgun attempted to rob the West Main Liquor store in Hugo. The clerk opened the register and the suspect began grabbing cash from the drawer.

The clerk pulled out a .38 revolver and shot the suspect one time in the upper torso. When that did not encourage the suspect to put down his gun, the clerk grabbed a shotgun and shot the suspect one time. The man, identified as 50-year-old Guy Wade Buck, walked outside the store where two Hugo police officers were standing.

Another person inside the store called 9-1-1 during the robbery and alerted police. The officers had just arrived when they hear the shotgun blast. The officers quickly apprehended the suspect who was flown to Wadley Hospital in Texarkana where he remains in critical condition. The gun was discovered to be a plastic air gun.

Buck is from the rural Choctaw County area.

Hugo Police called in OSBI to assist in the investigation.

http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/4439726.html

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hso
October 20, 2006, 03:04 PM
I can't fault the clerk.

AJ Dual
October 20, 2006, 03:12 PM
The clerk pulled out a .38 revolver and shot the suspect one time in the upper torso. When that did not encourage the suspect to put down his gun, the clerk grabbed a shotgun and shot the suspect one time. The man, identified as 50-year-old Guy Wade Buck, walked outside the store where two Hugo police officers were standing.

Now granted, we cant tell shot placment from this article, but between a .38 and presumably a 12ga, any load, maybe even cheap birdshot, probably at near contact range, the perp still managed to walk out under his own power.

There's no doubt that certain calibers and loads statisticaly work better than others, but this proves that there is no such thing as one-shot-stop calibers, there are only one-shot-stop hits.

PlayboyPenguin
October 20, 2006, 03:22 PM
I do not understand why he only fired one shot from his .38 then took the time to switch to another weapon? I think I would have unloaded the .38 before making myself vulnerable buy going for the shotgun.

I would like to see a follow up on this one. I wonder if the clerk will be charged.

carterbeauford
October 20, 2006, 03:31 PM
Didn't say whether or not the BG was under the influence of any controlled substances.

Bet the clerk buys a .357 and spends a little more time shooting it.

00-Guy
October 20, 2006, 03:40 PM
Corollary to the First Rule of a Gunfight.

Never bring an air pistol to a gunfight.

paul....

Crawlin
October 20, 2006, 04:06 PM
It's a little weird that he would only fire one shot then go for the shotgun. Of course you can't beleive everything you read in the paper...

crunker
October 20, 2006, 04:07 PM
Good for the clerk.

Hanzo581
October 20, 2006, 04:10 PM
Maybe he had only one shot left in his .38 after the last five attempted robberies.....you know how convienience stores are :neener:

Phil DeGraves
October 20, 2006, 04:11 PM
Maybe he fired his .38 dry but only hit the BG once. Then switching to the 12 ga would make sense.

PlayboyPenguin
October 20, 2006, 04:15 PM
Maybe he fired his .38 dry but only hit the BG once. Then switching to the 12 ga would make sense.
That could explain why it did not stop the guy too. The hit to the "upper torso" could be a grazing shoulder shot for all we know. The man may have been a horrible shot.

Geronimo45
October 20, 2006, 04:16 PM
But I thought the rules said that a handgun was what you used to fight your way to a bigger gun?
It is odd that he only shot once with the .38... but when in danger, people can do very strange things.

XDKingslayer
October 20, 2006, 04:21 PM
It is odd that he only shot once with the .38...

It doesn't say he only shot once, it said he only shot the robber once. He could have missed with the other 5.

ozwyn
October 20, 2006, 04:23 PM
So the clerk had access to a .38 and a 12 gauge?

Might be one of the worst liquor stores to pick for a robbery...

Somehow I envision had the police not picked the criminal up a bayonet charge or rifle fire might have been the third stage of response :what: :D

LaEscopeta
October 20, 2006, 04:28 PM
Buck is from the rural Choctaw County area.Is this local newspaper code for trying to say something about Mr. Buck? I don't know, I'm just asking.

mzmtg
October 20, 2006, 04:39 PM
BANG!

::scratches head::

"Well, that didn't work. Lemme try THIS!"

BOOM!

::smiles::

pharmer
October 20, 2006, 05:26 PM
Damn, a .38 and a 12 ga. Just the noise indoors would ruin my day. Joe

Autolycus
October 20, 2006, 06:01 PM
I bet next time he goes straight for the shotgun.

Thefabulousfink
October 20, 2006, 06:08 PM
Damn it mzmtg!

Now all I can think of is:
Broke into the wrong gall darn rec room, didn't you?
:neener:

MD_Willington
October 20, 2006, 06:13 PM
Guy Wade Buck

If he survives they'll change his name to Guy Wade Buck-shot :neener:

JohnKSa
October 20, 2006, 06:42 PM
What kind of a guy refuses to put down his fake gun even after being shot?

Standing Wolf
October 20, 2006, 06:57 PM
The officers quickly apprehended the suspect who was flown to Wadley Hospital in Texarkana where he remains in critical condition.

Should have made him walk.

BSlacker
October 20, 2006, 07:29 PM
It is hard to believe that Buck, from a rural area, did not drop everything he had when the .38 went off at spittin distance. My guess is he was using all his muscle control in another area of his body. So it was right to go for the 12 gauge. Buck, from a rural area, didn’t go down after the shotgun blast but he began to use what little brain power he could muster, he’s from a rural area you know, to get out. Good move Buck, from a rural area, maybe he was trying to return to the rural area, you think.
Buck, who is from a rural area, is lucky the police were there to get him to the city hospital. So, they rushed Buck, who is from a rural area, to the city hospital. I wonder in the city hospital do they speak his language, he’s rural you know.
I am just making fun of the reporter. What could be pertinent about being from a rural area. I grew up near Hugo and now live in a big city. Apparently the reporter doesn’t get out much. I am glad the clerk is ok and that Buck, who is rural, is going to make it to go back to his rural roots. And mend his rural ways I hope. Sorry :)

Juna
October 20, 2006, 07:56 PM
BANG!

::scratches head::

"Well, that didn't work. Lemme try THIS!"

BOOM!

::smiles::

:p LOL :neener:

The BG was clearly not a rocket scientist.

Cosmoline
October 20, 2006, 07:56 PM
but when in danger, people can do very strange things

No question about that! I remember a few years back a brown bear charged some fishermen. The fellow with the shotgun THREW IT at the bear even before shooting it! It turned out the guy with a little 9mm sidearm actually ended up stopping the charge.

B yond
October 20, 2006, 08:05 PM
identified as 50-year-old Guy Wade Buck

Was the clerk a hunter or was this the first buck he'd shot?

I'm not suprised he was still standing after being shot with the .38 pistol. I keep hearing the folks at the gun store saying you need a 300 Win Mag to drop an older buck.

What was in the shotgun? Buckshot?

:D

gezzer
October 20, 2006, 08:25 PM
But I thought the rules said that a handgun was what you used to fight your way to a bigger gun?

DING, DING, DING, DING, DING, Post winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:evil:

Zen21Tao
October 20, 2006, 09:34 PM
The masked man held up West Main Liquor, but didn't expect the clerk to fight back.


This criminal must be used to robbing people in Cali, New York, or other lib controled cities where citizens are kept unarmed and defenseless. This is proof that armed citizens CAN successfully defend themselves.

Spec ops Grunt
October 20, 2006, 09:58 PM
Now thats a warning shot. :evil:

44AMP
October 20, 2006, 10:02 PM
Only 1 hit with the .38. Obviously a bad case of buck fever. Then the 12ga. Still nothing. What's the best next move, go for a belt fed, or call in an airstrike?

the clerk is to be honored. He did the right thing. He fought back, and kept on fighting back. Maybe the clerk grew up in a rural area?

LaEscopeta
October 20, 2006, 11:03 PM
Quote:
Buck is from the rural Choctaw County area. Is this local newspaper code for trying to say something about Mr. Buck? I don't know, I'm just asking.I’ve read when Elvis first got his records on the radio in Memphis, he was in demand for on air interviews. The disk jockeys would always ask him where he went to high school, because back then in the 1950’s, saying what high school someone went to was a code that said something about the person. I was wondering if the local OK newspapers now have a similar sort of code when they put a sentence like “Buck is from the rural Choctaw County area” in a paragraph by itself. I’ve never been to OK so I don’t know.

I worked with a guy in upstate NY whose mother was from one of the reservations in or near Choctaw County OK, and I understand Will Rodgers’ family was from the same area. I’m not making any comments against “rural”, “Choctaw” or anything else, I’m just wondering.

Shweboner
October 21, 2006, 01:09 AM
go for a belt fed, or call in an airstrike?


can you imagine:eek: :what: :D

MarkDido
October 21, 2006, 09:14 AM
It's a little weird that he would only fire one shot then go for the shotgun. Of course you can't beleive everything you read in the paper...

I didn't see the obligatory statement: "The District Attorney said no charges will be filed against the store owner..."

Dravur
October 21, 2006, 10:52 AM
for the bad guy that the clerk did not let the shotgun go dry, his next gun down the line was the M249 SAW he had behind the counter. And if that didnt work there was the tac-nuke in the back room

strambo
October 21, 2006, 12:18 PM
What's funny about these situations is some blissninny will call for airsoft guns to be outlawed because they look real and that mistake got the victim (BG ;) ) killed. So, yeah, let's pass a law that takes away the incentive for criminals to accept more physical risk (by using a fake gun) to avoid the extra jail time for a real gun. Brilliant.:scrutiny: :rolleyes:

We should pass a law trying to encourage air gun use by criminals. Maybe promise them a cell to themselves if they get caught using only an airgun. Don't worry, the extra jail space needed will be offset by the morons like this who don't make it.:D Win-win for everyone.:neener:

shotgunkevin
October 21, 2006, 03:36 PM
Another person inside the store called 9-1-1 during the robbery and alerted police. The officers had just arrived when they hear the shotgun blast. The officers quickly apprehended the suspect
I'm wondering if there was some time passed between the clerk firing the .38 and then the shotgun. Perhaps after firing the .38 he tried to get the BG to disarm or leave, meanwhile retreiving the shotgun.
Either that, or Hugo has some top-notch response time. I mean the shooting wasn't even over!

Car Knocker
October 21, 2006, 03:57 PM
I didn't see the obligatory statement: "The District Attorney said no charges will be filed against the store owner..."
Probably because this attempted robbery happened Thursday night and this story aired Friday morning. :D

Car Knocker
October 21, 2006, 04:01 PM
or Hugo has some top-notch response time. I mean the shooting wasn't even over!

Hugo seems to have a population of under 6,000. I wouldn't imagine that the business district is too extensive and the police station probably isn't very far away from the store.

Dale00
October 21, 2006, 05:12 PM
Here is a little more info about the robbery that makes it even more interesting:

Store owner shoots suspect ‘out the door’

By Julie Bisbee
The Oklahoman

HUGO - Sheila Almond didn’t panic when she found a man in her liquor store wearing a ski mask, holding a gun and demanding money.

Almond’s 84-year-old mother, who was working the cash register at West Main Liquor on Thursday evening, backed away as the robber came around the counter for the cash register.

That’s about the time Almond entered the scene.

“My wife told him his ski mask was crooked - she can’t stand things like that - and to get on the other side of the counter and she’d give him the money,” said Bob Almond, owner of the liquor store who was at home at the time.

“I knew it was up to me to protect everybody,” said Sheila Almond, who was back at work Friday afternoon. “I can’t believe I talked to him the way I did. I was just playing for time so my mother could get out.”

Sheila Almond, 59, first shot the man in the shoulder with a pistol. When that didn’t slow him down, she laid a shotgun on the counter and blasted him in the abdomen.

“She blowed him out the door,” Bob Almond said.

Guy Wade Buck, 50, was flown to a Texarkana hospital and remained on a ventilator in critical condition Friday afternoon, according to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.

The gun he was carrying turned out to be a plastic air gun, said OSBI officials, who are assisting Hugo police in the investigation.

“I kept thinking that bullets were going to come,” Sheila Almond said. “I really expected him to shoot me, to shoot all of us.”

‘Bring Baby’

After the shooting, Almond said she called her attorney.

“I asked him about what I had done,” Almond said. “He said, ‘You took care of it.’ I shot him from the front. He had reached over and grabbed tens and they were scattered all over the parking lot. He did do a strong-arm robbery.”

Owning a liquor store, the Almonds have anticipated that someday they would be held up. Sheila Almond wasn’t counting on being the only one in the store who knew how to use a gun when that happened.

After ordering the robber to the other side of the counter, she told an employee to “Bring her ‘Baby,’ - that’s what we call the shotgun,” her husband said.

Sheila Almond, who is blind in her right eye, wanted the robber to think there was a child in the store - maybe he would leave, she said.

“I didn’t want to shoot,” Almond said. “But if I had to shoot, I wanted my shotgun.”

As an employee scrambled for the shotgun, Almond found the pistol.

“I knew if I got my hand on my pistol he was dead,” she said. “When I brought it up, it was ready to fire. He said, ‘Give it to me.’ I shot him. I’m just thankful I didn’t break any bottles. I know that’s callous, but he was wrong.”

The robber continued to reach for money and Almond grabbed a shotgun from her co-worker, laid it on the counter and shot him in the stomach.

“Nobody is ready to die,” she said, “especially at the hands of a cranked-up idiot.”

The shot sent the robber crashing through the door and into the store’s parking lot, with only his feet still on the front porch, a gun in one hand and a wad of 10-dollar bills in the other.

“All I could think of was, he’s down. I felt relief,” Almond said. “When I get in a crunch, I get calm. But I fall apart later.”

Two Hugo police officers responding to a 911 call arrived just in time to see the suspect coming out the front door.

The liquor store had been robbed before, but never with a gun, Bob Almond said.

Sheila Almond said she’s taking her liquor store employee out today to teach her how to shoot a gun. They’ll have to do it without “Baby,” though. The shotgun was confiscated by police.

PlayboyPenguin
October 21, 2006, 05:21 PM
Sounds like a clean shoot to me but it also sounds like a good reason for people to learn to use their firearms corrrectly. If you can only manage a grazing hit (the upper shoulder) from 3 or 4 feet away you need some practice.

If it had been a real gun the guy had that shoulder hit would have cost her life.

cassandrasdaddy
October 21, 2006, 11:15 PM
and her age make poor shooting a lil forgivable

Greg L
October 22, 2006, 12:41 AM
I’m just thankful I didn’t break any bottles.

Bwaaaahaaaaa......

johnster999
October 22, 2006, 01:44 AM
He said, ‘Give it to me.’ I shot him. I’m just thankful I didn’t break any bottles. I know that’s callous, but he was wrong.”

“Bring her ‘Baby,’ - that’s what we call the shotgun,”

“She blowed him out the door,”

This article is full of instant classics.

strambo
October 22, 2006, 02:01 AM
This article is full of instant classics.Oh, yes. I almost don't know where to begin. I'll add to the list.

“I didn’t want to shoot,” Almond said. “But if I had to shoot, I wanted my shotgun.”

“I knew if I got my hand on my pistol he was dead,” He said, ‘Give it to me.’ I shot him.“Nobody is ready to die,” she said, “especially at the hands of a cranked-up idiot.”

:p Now that's funny, I don't care who ya are!

JohnKSa
October 22, 2006, 03:34 PM
They’ll have to do it without “Baby,” though. The shotgun was confiscated by police.Hmmm...

Wonder why?

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