Got robbed today, I'm screaming mad!


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gbran
October 22, 2006, 12:05 AM
Was going to the range this morning. I took my range bag out to my Jeep and put it in the back behind the seat and shut the tailgate hatch. Went back inside, used the john, took my guns to the Jeep and left. Got to the range and found my range bag had been stolen. I live in a nice area, I don't advertise that I'm into guns. It was early and I didn't see anyone out. Somebody was pretty bold, but much of the blame was mine for not locking up between trips.

The perp now knows I'm into guns and will probably be back. I do have a hell for stout gunsafe at least. Oh, my range bag had about 500 rounds of misc. ammo, my $300 digital camera, a laser rangefinder, tools, boresighter, pistol rest, spotting scope, etc. Probably about $1,000 worth of stuff.

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yongxingfreesty
October 22, 2006, 12:06 AM
i would be pissed too

psyopspec
October 22, 2006, 12:08 AM
That's a terrible lesson learned the hard way. After an uncle got robbed he said he didn't get a good night's sleep for days afterwards out of fear that they weren't finished with his stuff. It's probably a healthy fear to have after a case like this.

Now's probably a good time review your home security, add some lights, make sure your locks are solid and that your gun safe gives you a warm fuzzy. Considering getting a dog if you have the time and it will fit into your lifestyle.

thexrayboy
October 22, 2006, 12:10 AM
I'd bet someone was nearby watching you and saw you did not lock the back gate. In fact you may even be acquainted with the perp. Unfortunate that these things occur but it is a reminder of the need for constant vigilance in this day of opportunistic crime.

SoCalShooter
October 22, 2006, 12:11 AM
I would be very upset, but the upside is the fact you did not lose a firearm, granted everything you had there was important stuff.

Hoploholic
October 22, 2006, 12:27 AM
Keep an eye on the local papers and pawnshops. Chances are that whoever ripped you off is not a gunny themself. Other than that, I am glad to hear that you were not injured or confronted directly. Sometimes life is interesting enough without having some drugged up thug trying to make it more so.

jeepmor
October 22, 2006, 12:34 AM
I think I would tell the police there "may" have been a gun in the range bag. When guns are stolen, police look into thngs with a bit more fervor. A stolen car with a gun in it is sought after much more intently than just a stolen car. If you're like some folks on this forum that have oodles of guns, this ambiguity might be warranted, if you don't have many firearms, this may not be as plausible. Ethical finaggling aside now.

If it was on your property, it's a homeowners/renters insurance claim and not an auto insurance claim.

Yes, your safe will keep the guns in place unless your dealing with a pro. I would immediately setup a home computer camera that provides decent quality images, set it on motion detector and place it where it can record movement to and from your entrances or the the driveway. I bet you would get an image of the crook within days returning while you're away. An easy snag ususally warrants a revisit once they know the victim has cooled off. Also, you could setup a sting and do nearly the same thing with the camera watching this time.

If he/she is dumb enough to use this opportunity again, you will have them with video evidence for the police to come make an immediate arrest and you can simply provide the officers with a CD with the offending actions saved in a short movie file. Once the police have this probable cause, I think they can then get a warrant to search the perp's house and find the rest of your stuff, showing a habitual criminal pattern. Acting quick and the criminal's boldness are going to be key to this actually working.

A bit of setup work, but you could actually know who the criminal is this way. However, be prepared for it to be someone you know.


jeepmor

22-rimfire
October 22, 2006, 12:43 AM
This sounds stupid, but I had a cigarette lighter stolen out of my truck once while I stepped into a 7-11 for a quick soft drink. That was a little lesson for me.

But, frankly I'm probably pretty careless with having unlocked doors and so forth in my vehicle even when there are valuables inside when it comes to quick trips into stores and things. Locks don't always keep them out either... had more than a $2,000 worth of stuff stolen from my locked vehicle in my driveway once. Yes, lost a gun on that deal--Glock 23, some jewelry, and other valuables. Never let my vehicle parked outside my garage again. Such are the breaks. I just blew it off and moved on. Yes, I reported it, but I didn't turn it in on insurance.

Sorry you had the experience and yes it really pisses a person off.

Deacon Aegis
October 22, 2006, 12:45 AM
First post here, howdy all, and I empathize with your anger gbran. Perhaps there is something you might try that might smoke your theif out and who knows, maybe get you some satisfaction. Like others have expressed, your thief probably is somebody close, maybe a youth, but definately with some rather noticeable and unique new toys his friends and associates will no-doubt take notice in. Perhaps if you print up a discription of your range bag and its contents, though not all and I'd be excercising a bit more political correctness on what I called the bag, but then info-bomb the area you live in, going door to door and talking with your neighbors, you'll put the squeeze on your thief hard enough for someone to come forward or your range bag to mysteriously reappear (wishful thinking, I know), but most of all, an active/aggressive response that most thieves would not expect. No doubt, revealing that you are a gun owner is traditionally considered unwise, but I happen to believe this is as much a myth as some posted in another thread I read here. So what that you own guns. Do you think that'll mark you for a higher probability of burglary? Doubtful. Most burglars, even those targeting guns, are not going to spend the time trying to crack a safe. They're after quick and easy and your safe doesn't qualify to be worth risking. Anyway, thought I'd offer a somewhat different approach. Good luck, I hope it is found and returned to you.

Grey54956
October 22, 2006, 12:47 AM
gbran,

how far do you live from neighbors?

If you are rural, then it's probably not an issue. If you are in the suburbs, then your house probably is right near several others. If you're in the city, then nevermind.

If you are in the burbs, then the thief is probably a neighbor, or one of their kids. If any of your immediate neighbors have teenaged kids, I would consider them possible suspects. If they see you throw a bag in your jeep, then go back in, they might snatch it.

While there is the possibility that someone could just happen by at just the right time and place to see you throw the bag in, or see it laying there, it is unlikely. Also, it's pretty arrogant to simply snatch a bag in broad daylight when the owner might step back out at any moment. Adults might not do this, but some kid might have the guts and general lack of intelligence to give it a try.

Is stealing ammunition and felony?

The Lone Haranguer
October 22, 2006, 12:53 AM
The time I had my home (a mobile home in a park) burgled, it was by the neighbors. They had a neighborhood watch -- the neighbors watched while the teenaged brats carted my stuff down the front steps. :rolleyes:

Outlaws
October 22, 2006, 01:03 AM
Yes, your safe will keep the guns in place unless your dealing with a pro. I would immediately setup a home computer camera that provides decent quality images, set it on motion detector and place it where it can record movement to and from your entrances or the the driveway. I bet you would get an image of the crook within days returning while you're away. An easy snag ususally warrants a revisit once they know the victim has cooled off. Also, you could setup a sting and do nearly the same thing with the camera watching this time.

If he/she is dumb enough to use this opportunity again, you will have them with video evidence for the police to come make an immediate arrest and you can simply provide the officers with a CD with the offending actions saved in a short movie file. Once the police have this probable cause, I think they can then get a warrant to search the perp's house and find the rest of your stuff, showing a habitual criminal pattern. Acting quick and the criminal's boldness are going to be key to this actually working.


I got one better.

Pop the hood of that Jeep all day on your day off. Put a nice tool box outside (this is like porno to crooks). YOu don't have to waste the whole day pretending to fix your jeep, but you do have to go inside a lot and sit on your couch and watch outside while watching some TV. Here is the catch...you are not trying to catch them right now. You are just taking breaks from fixing your Jeep and keeping an eye on your stuff. Aat the end of the day...or whatever time if happend last time, close your hood and take stuff inside but leave the tool box. (this works best at night, but YMMV). Be ready to move because you will catch someone...even if its not the same guy. Be glad you still have your guns because this is where you get to pull them.

Its good to have a cell phone on you and a friend to assist...preferable one who is competent with firearms because ME personally, I am gonna hog-tie this fella with duct tape like he deserves.

mosttoyswins
October 22, 2006, 01:15 AM
We had a lot of new home construction in our neighborhood a couple of years ago.

A rash of car burglaries happened and we found out later the construction workers were casing different houses and cars, watching when people left and when they come home etc etc. :cuss: Then they would come back later that night and make their move. We had the PD actually bust the workers in their construction trucks and vans in the neighborhood at 2:00am.

A neighbor of mine had 2 $1000.00 bikes stolen out of his garage while he was home and he had simply left the garage door up.

You can never be too vigilant in protecting your property.

22-rimfire
October 22, 2006, 01:29 AM
Good point about construction workers.... they often have a key to the houses they work on when doing the finishing work. Most people don't change the locks after buying.....

I believe I would leave something appealing in your vehicle and keep watch on a weekend morning.

bouis
October 22, 2006, 01:42 AM
Strangers probably wouldn't go after a random bag -- I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone you either know well or are at least acquainted with, who knew you were going shooting. They probably expected to score a couple guns. Believe it or not most burglaries are perpetrated by someone the victim knows, or a "friend of a friend."

I really wouldn't try setting up a "sting" as the authorities would likely view it as inviting a confrontation, especially if you draw without adequate provocation. I know after losing a bike off the front porch as a kid that I'd want to really hurt someone if I caught them, but you're better off not doing it. Just keep your stuff locked up or move to a place where you don't have to worry about it. I know I've probably got a couple grand worth of stuff on the carport that I don't worry about (but I probably should...).

cosine
October 22, 2006, 01:44 AM
I got one better.

Pop the hood of that Jeep all day on your day off. Put a nice tool box outside (this is like porno to crooks). YOu don't have to waste the whole day pretending to fix your jeep, but you do have to go inside a lot and sit on your couch and watch outside while watching some TV. Here is the catch...you are not trying to catch them right now. You are just taking breaks from fixing your Jeep and keeping an eye on your stuff. Aat the end of the day...or whatever time if happend last time, close your hood and take stuff inside but leave the tool box. (this works best at night, but YMMV). Be ready to move because you will catch someone...even if its not the same guy. Be glad you still have your guns because this is where you get to pull them.

Its good to have a cell phone on you and a friend to assist...preferable one who is competent with firearms because ME personally, I am gonna hog-tie this fella with duct tape like he deserves.
emphasis mine

I don't believe entrapment, ending with actions like the part I bolded, is a good idea. :uhoh:

SingleStack
October 22, 2006, 02:12 AM
That blows...sorry to hear.

DoubleTapDrew
October 22, 2006, 02:56 AM
don't believe entrapment, ending with actions like the part I bolded, is a good idea.
Especially if it's a neighbor that picks up the box to either bring it to your door or put it in their garage/house for the night and let you know they have it the next day because they are worried about it getting stolen. It would be hard to tell someone doing that from someone who is a piece of excrement at that time (although if they didn't tell you later I suppose you found your man).
I know how you feel man, that sucks. I had my vehicle burglarized, firearm/mags/holster/mag holder stolen along with some digital items, about $2K worth of stuff. Get cameras.

Outlaws
October 22, 2006, 03:01 AM
First off, you don't go out after your neighbor because you know where they live.
Second, its not entrapment because you were just watching TV when you saw someone in your driveway and remembered you left your tool box out.
Third, unless they pull up in a vehicle, there is no rush. See what they do.
Fourth, you always have a sidearm on you because its your God given right.

Mark Whiteman
October 22, 2006, 03:18 AM
Its arguable to a certain point, but at least where I live that wouldn't be entrapment, but it would be real bad if you initiated a string of events that concluded with the badguy being shot. Police here do the "fake unconscious bum with a wallet" sting all the time, busting people that jackroll drunks. Simply providing an opportunity, without coercion or compelling anything, is not entrapment here. Honest people would simply not act on the opportunity. The thieves simply can't help themselves.
For a long time, police have been warning hikers to lock stuff up in the trunk, but do it before you get to the trailhead. Apparently the goblins watch to see which trunk contains stuff and then when you're gone, pry the trunk open. So even if you locked it, its possible the perp might've been able to pop that open if they were good.
A friend got sick of having his truck broken into for his tools, which was a major load and not possible to transfer twice a day. An electronics tech, they were also high-dollar items. His solution was to acquire an old neon sign transformer (around 7000 volts but miniscule current, 9/1000ths of an amp.) He put it in his truck, one side to the truck body and the other to a wire that was dropped on the ground. He ran the extension cord to the house, with a switch by his bed. When his car alarm went off, he hit the button. All he found when he ran outside was a puddle of piss. Not a suggestion, just makes a good story.

zoom6zoom
October 22, 2006, 10:51 AM
Be glad you still have your guns because this is where you get to pull them.

Not every state allows armed response for protection of property. Gbran's location is listed as Cali - he'd probably end up locked up instead of the perp.

redneck2
October 22, 2006, 11:46 AM
Just a thought..

anybody know anything about the ink packs that banks put in bundles of cash? Seems like a good idea to me if you could get some. Non-lethal and effective. Anybody that was purple walking around neighborhood would be a prime candidate.

As a side note...there's times I get gas for the car, leave the keys in and make a quick run inside the quickie mart. Probably not so smart. Gonna stop that.

DesertShooter
October 22, 2006, 01:18 PM
Too bad about your THEFT! It was NOT a "robbery", though! It was probably the crime of an "opportunist", and they MAY have observed you when you placed your range bag in the Jeep, then went back inside for your "nature call". All it took was a matter of SECONDS to grab that bag! I don't mean to offend you, but YOU were partially to blame for what took place!

Whenever I go shooting, I am VERY discrete when I load/unload my belongings. If someone is standing around, I'll wait until they are gone. Ammo and gun-related equipment go into my truck FIRST, and it is always secured within the LOCKED interior of the truck or the truck bed WITH a camper shell. The firearms are the LAST thing to go into the truck, and if I have to make multiple trips to load them, the truck is LOCKED when I am not there. When I finally hit the road, I know that everything that I loaded into the truck is still there. If I have to stop for gas, I never leave my truck unattended or out of my view! Add to that, I always toss a blanket over the rifle bags and items that are obviously gun-related.

"Intestinal fortitude"! Sure, "When ya gotta go, ya gotta go", but....why not make a "pre-emptive" "pit-stop" BEFORE you load all your valuable equipment? When you arrive at your designated location, unload everything and make sure that it's all safe BEFORE you visit the "John". Better yet, go shooting with a good buddy, who will oversee your equipment when you're not there, and return the favor for them when they have to find some relief!

Don't kick yourself, but look upon this incident as an invaluable "learning experience" that cost you a BUNDLE. Don't let it happen AGAIN! It could have happened to any of us....but "fate" jumped into your venture, and you ended up with the short-end of the stick. At least your firearms weren't "robbed"!

Lastly, the chances of having that thief carry out another THEFT, just because he (or she?) now knows that you are a gun person are VERY slim. I doubt if they "cased" you, but after they had seen you place "something" in your Jeep, then leave those items unattended, "opportunity" was too much of a temptation for them to overlook. Heck, it's quite possible that, after finding out what they had stolen, they decided to discard all of it in a nearby trash can or dumpster.

Next time, use your BEST "weapon"....your brain! If ya "gotta go", do it when your valuables won't be in jeopardy of being stolen!

I hope that you get those things back! I don't blame you for being so highly upset....but I haven't experienced any incident such as yours in 50+ years of shooting! Last week, when I went for a 3-day camping/shooting trip, I loaded everything into my truck during the hours of darkness, and departed shortly after everything was secured. I stopped for gas before hitting the highway, but my truck and my "arsenal" were never out of view.

aspen1964
October 22, 2006, 01:35 PM
..sounds like a 'thieving neighbor' to me....the pits..and while you made a mistake of not securing your items, stealing is always the fault of the thief, not the victim...I could say a little more, but it would cause trouble with other people...

mr.trooper
October 22, 2006, 01:47 PM
lock your doors.

ALWASE do it.even if your steping away from your car for 10 seconds to run in and pay the gass station attendent; LOCK YOUR DOOR.

telomerase
October 22, 2006, 01:55 PM
Well, that really sucks, dude. On the bright side, I'm sure it will make you ten times more security-conscious than a $1,000 seminar would have (I know I've been plenty security conscious ever since running into a battery thief twice when I was 22... once when I caught him and once when the @#$% idiots let him out a month early, without telling the neighborhood!)

rangerruck
October 22, 2006, 01:58 PM
start looking at pawnshops around you for your stuff, if you see any of it, ask the mgr if he has any video of that transaction. All you have to do is recognize a neighbor.

rangerruck
October 22, 2006, 02:00 PM
also , I would put up paper signs in the neighbor, and put STOLEN ITEMS, in huge letters, and offer a reward. someone will know someones got a new something they are bragging about.

.357 magnum
October 22, 2006, 02:11 PM
I feel for ya! I would be very pissed off too. It's a violation of your property.

As mentioned earlier. I would take a second look at your home security. Because you just never know if your perp has bigger plans. I would really suggest getting a dog. I have a German sheperd dog that would react to someone farting two houses down. Really she is very good! No one can come within 2 houses of me without her knowing it and making me aware of it. I have a second dog, but she's a lab and they are worthless as watch dogs. I do not normally advertise that I am a gun owner. But there are times it just may become apparent to others. In my opinion it at least gives any perp second thoughts about coming in when you are there! I am ex-LE. I would still file a police report for insurance purposes. Would not count on much help finiding perp from LE though. Situation just does not warrant it. Keep your eyes and ears open at all times! Do not let them get you a second time. I am very happy no one was hurt-thats what you always want to prevent. The best to you and yours!

aspen1964
October 22, 2006, 02:27 PM
One more thing..if you need to leave your house, but are wondering if somoene is watching you...leave in your car but then as soon as you are out of sight..drive back and go inside...do it a couple of times if necessary even though you're suspicions are flimsy...keep any would-be thieves worried that you may return unexpectedly..of course, if the suspicions are more grounded, a call to the cops is due...

Arcticfox
October 22, 2006, 02:36 PM
Sorry you were victimized. Don't dwell on it. It will just make you madder. You will probably never know for sure who did it.

ALWAYS lock you car! Especially with goods in it. Get Power locks, since that will make it WAY more convenient that messing with keys. What is $300 in aftermarked locks compared to what you lost?

My car is locked, and alarmed, the MOMENT I close the door! No one gets to opportunize me. (I made that word up :p )

hkenvy91
October 22, 2006, 02:43 PM
think about it , it could have been worse . atleast no guns were stolen ,to be used in a robbery or worse , a MURDER!

atleast u learned something valueable about locking your door

if it werent for bg's, locks would've never been invented

Geno
October 22, 2006, 02:51 PM
Never leave ANYTHING unlocked, for any duration of time, anywhere or for any reason except for the following:

Now, what I would do:

1) Get a new camera and a cheap VCR recorder (HIDE it real good).
2) Set it to film your Jeep outside.
3) Buy a new bag a place some bricks in it.
4) Let a week or two pass. And place it same way in your Jeep. Don't lock it, and go use the john.
5) When the bag gets stolen, check the tape.
6) Have the scumbag arrested for BOTH crimes.

Doc2005

revolverguy
October 22, 2006, 03:01 PM
sorry about your loss, i agree that it was probably somebody you know like a neighbor or someone.

something similar happened to me when i was building my shop we had the whole thing built except for the door and had to run to lowes for some hardware . well to make a long story short we had put our power tools in the shop because we were putting up the door on this day and when we get back my brand new biscuit joiner and portable planer were gone and all done in broad daylight. my mother was right next door and said she didnt see any cars in my driveway so i am pretty sure it was a neighbor:cuss:

PlayboyPenguin
October 22, 2006, 03:28 PM
I live in a nice neighborhood now and still lock my doors. Mainly because I used to live in an area (though threndy and nice) where your car stereo would be gone if you walked inside for 5 minutes without locking your door.

At least you did not loose any firearms that could be used in a crime.

Mark Whiteman
October 22, 2006, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by telomerase:
"...ever since running into a battery thief twice when I was 22... once when I caught him and once when the @#$% idiots let him out a month early, without telling the neighborhood!"

Got out? Carprowlers don't get near a jail in these parts except for the initial paperwork. Then they're out. No cell for them at the inn, just a judicial system that tells them "Don't come back" just before they turn them loose. To keep hold of them for any length of time, there has to be additional charges, like drugs or weapons (gang bangers, etc). Most seem to be thrill starved morons and Methheads. :mad: (I used to dispatch the police here.)

PlayboyPenguin
October 22, 2006, 06:29 PM
Got out? Carprowlers don't get near a jail in these parts except for the initial paperwork. Then they're out. No cell for them at the inn, just a judicial system that tells them "Don't come back" just before they turn them loose.
When I used to get my car broken into I would call the police at first. After about 2 or 3 times of them telling me they would "send someone over if they go time" I gave up. Not once did an officer ever show. Now they just tell you to alert your insurance company.

History Prof
October 25, 2006, 02:16 PM
anybody know anything about the ink packs that banks put in bundles of cash? Seems like a good idea to me if you could get some. Non-lethal and effective. Anybody that was purple walking around neighborhood would be a prime candidate. It'd be a great idea is you could get ahold of one. But this close to 31-Oct, the guy'd probably just tell the cops it was his Barney costume.:neener:

Yea, I have kids....:D

bdutton
October 25, 2006, 05:10 PM
Was going to the range this morning. I took my range bag out to my Jeep and put it in the back behind the seat and shut the tailgate hatch. Went back inside, used the john, took my guns to the Jeep and left. Got to the range and found my range bag had been stolen. I live in a nice area, I don't advertise that I'm into guns. It was early and I didn't see anyone out. Somebody was pretty bold, but much of the blame was mine for not locking up between trips.

The perp now knows I'm into guns and will probably be back. I do have a hell for stout gunsafe at least. Oh, my range bag had about 500 rounds of misc. ammo, my $300 digital camera, a laser rangefinder, tools, boresighter, pistol rest, spotting scope, etc. Probably about $1,000 worth of stuff.

I would try this:

Hook up your camcorder in yoru house aimed at the vehicle. set it for motion detect... I have a camera that has this mode and will start once motion is detected and then stop when there is no more motion.

Do something similar again. With an emtry range bag, go to your vehicle and toss it in the back and don't lock it. See if the perp comes back. They almost always do.

Soybomb
October 25, 2006, 05:36 PM
Sorry to hear that, thats pretty terrible. At least it was your range bag and not your guns though. The one thing I make sure of is that my guns are always with me when they're out of the house. Even to the bathroom with me at the range.

Brad Johnson
October 25, 2006, 06:27 PM
gbran,

1) Statistically speaking, you probably know the thief. Crimes of opportunity around a domicile are usually perpetuated by someone who knows you or your habits/patterns.

2) Also statistically speaking, they will probably try it again. Don't leave anything in your Jeep you don't want to lose, and don't leave up your garage door unless you are in the garage or like cutting your yard with a borrowed lawn mower. Use this to your advantage (i.e. stage a scenario and videotape the result).

If you live in a relatively populous area (a neighborhood) chances are it was a neighborhood kid with too much time on their hands and a hankering for some of the stuff they think their parents should buy them, but won't.

Brad

Mark Whiteman
October 25, 2006, 06:30 PM
You might check security supply firms online. It sounds like there could be such a device available for Loss Prevention in businesses. I don't know if the bank versions would be available. They're sorta pyrotechnic and require some training to use (I used to dispatch a first aid run every once in awhile to a bank that had hired a new teller. Some took a 2nd incident to get the hang of the routine!). We had more than one badguy that made the mistake of stuffing the bait money down his pants. Treated for burns not far from where it went off outside.

Mark Whiteman
October 25, 2006, 07:12 PM
Hey, just an idea: Get a cheapy bag you don't mind getting rid of. You'll never want it back again. Fill a ziploc freezer bag (the thick ones) with used, chunky cat litter. :uhoh: Make it count, just use the clumps. After sealing the ziploc, fasten some duct tape to one side of the ziploc at the top, doubling it over into a non-sticky handle that extends below the ziploc. Fasten another length of duct tape to the other side of the top of the ziploc, running the duct tape upwards, and double it over, leaving 3 or 4 inches of sticky. Be careful. Now, invert the ziploc over the bag. Take a moment and say a prayer of thanks for remembering to get the kind with a no-spill guarantee. :p Holding the bottom of the bag with one hand, guide the sticky end of the duct tape to the bottom of the bag and stick it down good. Settle the ziploc into place. You should now have a feau-rangebag full of ripe cat pucks with a "handle" sticking out. Theoretically, the badguy will take his prize to a safe place (home), open the "rangebag", and see this duct tape "handle" sticking up. Not being able to help himself, he will pull this handle like a grenade pin. The heavy bag (oh man, this has got to be worth something!) will come up out of the rangebag and after a couple inches, be pulled open by his tugs on the handle, spreading joy throughout his domocile. :eek: The badguy is the one with the unceasing watery eyes and an "aire" about him. If he doesn't throw his clothes away and just launders them, he will be the one with cats following him around. And if he just nails his rug, he'll be at the house with the Rug Doctor van in front. :D

P12
October 25, 2006, 10:54 PM
I would set it up for another bag to get stolen. Only have the bag bugged.

Like others have said, it's very likely someone from your neighborhood.

gbran
October 25, 2006, 11:32 PM
I have totally reevaluated my security situ. BTW, I'm single and live in an upscale tract home with no druggies or lowlifes living near. OK, so they drive accross town to rip me off. I do have a good safe that is bolted to the concrete floor, but I'm gonna get a bigger, heavier one that will hold stuff that currently isn't in a safe. I have an alarm and good insurance. I can't stop determined pro burglars, but my current setup would really slow them down. I just have to remember to never trust anyone and keep my vehicles locked.

50 Freak
October 26, 2006, 04:15 AM
I for one hope the perp follows you home and tries robbing you. That way you can pump him full of buckshot and rid this world of one more scumbag.

evan price
October 26, 2006, 04:38 AM
Wow. Been there. That's why I moved to the butt-end of nowhere.

Believe it or not I not too long ago forgot and left a scoped uncased (UNLOADED LUCKILY!) bolt action rifle leaning against a tree in my front yard about 10' from the driveway in plain view. All day, the next night, and found it next morning. A real head smack moment. I decided to mow the yard and turned around the tree with the tractor and saw it. ("Oh yeah, I was unloading stuff over there because the truck was in the way... d'oh!")

gunsmith
October 26, 2006, 08:41 AM
then it was a local kid. use some of the suggestions here to catch him.
All my clothes were recently stolen out of the laundry room in the apt complex I live at. and my car was broken into and my bike stolen...I know how you feel, I plan on setting up a sting to catch some lowlife as soon as I recover from all the losses.

...I've thought about catching some rattlesnakes and leaving them in a rnge bag...that'll teach em...in the summer you can also catch yellow jackets pretty easy, I've also thought of catching the local black widow spiders that are all over reno....

There was an Ear, Nose & Throat surgeon in NYC who had some severed heads (for research) in a box in his car, some one broke in and stole the box and it was reported that a block later they heard some one screaming and the thief dropped the box and ran....:D


Oh yeah, if you do confront the little punk...make sure you can document your need for any violence (if it happens)
WATCH YOUR SIX!

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