[notbubba]

I would very much like to seen pictures of The High Road line up with their ccw covered & uncovered.

With the shirt pulled up, or what ever cover garment you use pulled to the side.

I don't have a digital camra so I can't post.

Mine is a SIG 239 9mm IWB in a Ross holster.

[Jim March]

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/holsters.html

Since then, I've worked out an alternative to the J-hook. They come up over the edge of the pants, under the belt, and then hang a flat 90degree turn to run up under your pants belt loops. There is literally nothing externally visible :).

Problem: they have to be adjusted right to each individual wearer :(. But MAN are they ever "stealth".

[Greg L]

TFL underwear? :eek:

That must have been one of Corriea's short lived lines :D .

That looks like a good system Jim. I like the way that the hooks can be slid over under the belt loops. Do you need to have a few different ones if your different pants have loops in widely differing positions?

Greg

[Mikul]

The first picture is me concealed while wearing shorts and a t-shirt. FYI, the gun in on my RIGHT hip. The clip on the left is my folding knife.
http://www.users.fast.net/~mikul/bb2.jpg

The picture below is the rig and gun that is under that shirt and shorts. I can't find my unconcealed photo, but this shows what's under there.
http://www.users.fast.net/~mikul/bb.jpg

[Betty]

USPc in bellyband:

http://www.olegvolk.net/newphotos/tn/concealfront.jpg

http://www.olegvolk.net/newphotos/tn/concealback.jpg

http://www.olegvolk.net/newphotos/tn/concealmag.jpg

photos by Oleg Volk

[notbubba]

Wow, Runt.

With Mikul picture he has a bigger looser shirt on to not print.
I would never guess by your pic that you were packing, that doesn't look like a "cover" top.

Looks like two big votes for belly bands.

[aikidoka-mks]

Well at least runt did not post a pic of a tarantula lol. Good concealment runt. Im going to try and take some pics and post them in the next few days. I dont carry in some sensitive places now because I cant wear a cover garment in this weather and Im a bit paranoid about printing even though I'm using a belly band and tucking in. I'll get opinions here on how it looks.

Mark

[aikidoka-mks]

Ok I was bored and took the pics tonight

[aikidoka-mks]

ccw - showing

[arinvolvo]

Mine

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=283991



Ok, maybe that is cheating:p

[Jim March]

One thing I'm trying is to put the "stealth hook" at the back and run a conventional J-hook up front. That way you've still got flexibility across several pants types, but you avoid the "rear snag problem" on J-hooks.

See, as you get up from a seated position, the rear J-hook can "snag" on a cloth-back seat, especially if it's got fancy pleats or something, and rip off :eek:. That happened to me at a Denny's once :uhoh:. So by doing a "stealth hook" at the rear with the kydex completely behind the belt, there's no possible snag.

Double stealth hooks have to be fairly specific to the pants. Not completely though; as mine are on pivot pins, there's a couple inches of range available, only thing there is it affects the gun's ride height somewhat.

Still doing R&D on all this. Which is a pain because without a CCW permit, I have to use *knives* as personal testbeds and that's somewhat problematic. Sure, I can build gun holsters, but I can't wear them the 24/7 it takes to work the bugs out :rolleyes:.

[Gunhead]

I carry my sw640 in a simple Fobus holster. It is not printing too much even in a light shirt. I could use an IWB rig, but speed is more important to me than total concealability...

http://web.axelero.hu/szlejer2/ccw.jpg

[Greg L]

Still doing R&D on all this. Which is a pain because without a CCW permit, I have to use *knives* as personal testbeds and that's somewhat problematic. Sure, I can build gun holsters, but I can't wear them the 24/7 it takes to work the bugs out

Jim,

Could you carry a properly shaped piece of wood (you could even fill it with lead weights to give it the right weight) or other replica instead of a real gun to test the holster? Or is carrying a replica against the law out there too? :uhoh: (actually thinking about it, given the love that the various local LE has for you :D , you might want to have someone else test them out with a block of wood)

Greg

[Jim March]

Block of wood. :scrutiny:

:barf:

sigh.

[Betty]

I chased Oleg around with the digicam and shot these:

Oleg with P32 hidden in pocket (http://www.olegvolk.net/runt_pics/misc%20linked%20pics/p32_pockethide.jpg)

http://www.olegvolk.net/runt_pics/misc%20linked%20pics/p32_pocketshow.jpg

Oleg with K40 hidden in a Tucker Answer holster (http://www.olegvolk.net/runt_pics/misc%20linked%20pics/k40_hide.jpg)

You can tuck the shirt in around the holster, but I didn't like the belt clips showing, so I made him pull his shirt back out.

http://www.olegvolk.net/runt_pics/misc%20linked%20pics/k40_show.jpg

Me, with S&W 640 hidden (http://www.olegvolk.net/runt_pics/misc%20linked%20pics/640_hide.jpg)

http://www.olegvolk.net/runt_pics/misc%20linked%20pics/640_show.jpg

[DigMe]

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=283991

Man that makes me nervous just seeing a picture of you with your finger on the trigger as you're pulling it from your pocket. :scrutiny: Not recommended! Careful not to pop one off in your azz. I'm sorry if you already know this - I definitely DON'T want to sound patronizing, but the picture seems to indicate that you don't - so look how Oleg is pulling out his pocket gun...look at his trigger finger. That's proper technique. I only say this in case that is your normal style and you just weren't aware of the safety hazard.

http://www.olegvolk.net/runt_pics/misc%20linked%20pics/p32_pocketshow.jpg

brad cook

[Mal H]

Wince! I agree DigMe.

Arinvolvo - "Ok, maybe that is cheating."
No actually that is called "cheeking", as in putting a hole in one. Please give some serious thought to your extraction procedure.

[WebHobbit]

http://webhobbit.net/fora/vest.jpg

This is me concealing my 686 4 inch .357 with an old denim vest. For hotter weather I have several light weight cotton vests that do just as well.

http://webhobbit.net/fora/vestup.jpg

Grips are Butler Creek Boot Grips (Craig Spegel designed). Holster is by Old World Leather. The extra slot is for cross-draw butt-forward carry.

My normal carry gun is a little 640 .357 but I sent it off to the S&W Performance Center for a little trigger work and repolish job.

I am starting to like carrying the bug gun though.

And no cracks about my gut....I'm a hobbit dang it what did you expect?!

:p :D

[Frohickey]

A Smith&Wesson tshirt is practically advertising that you are packing.

[WebHobbit]

Nah...not at all. Maybe to THR members but the average joe just looks at it like any other brand name...like Harley or something.

[DigMe]

Nah...not at all. Maybe to THR members but the average joe just looks at it like any other brand name...like Harley or something.

Exactly! Everyone knows that if you're wearing a Harley shirt then you probably have one in your pocket! :neener:

brad cook

[WebHobbit]

That's no Harley...I'm just happy to see you!

:neener: :p

[garrettwc]

Runt, that looks to be a very effective belly band.

Is it comfortable during hot weather?

Who is the manufacturer?

[voilsb]

I'll post some, but not till tomorrow.

[arinvolvo]

Dig me....that is a good point...I normally keep the finger off of the tirgger, but the gun was unloaded for the picture, and I was attempting to appear as if I were "ready for action"....kinda silly I guess...

apparently the action I was ready for was puttin a hole in my arse.:rolleyes:

[arinvolvo]

BTW, this is the original 2nd pic I took....which is actualy how the gun comes out of the holster when being drawn....I didnt like the way the pic turned out, so I quickly snapped another pic, with the gun turned over....and the finger got in there. My bad.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=286071

[voilsb]

here it is at 4 o'clock, where it usually resides:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=289463

edited to hack the image in

also, I don't think I had my pants quite tight enough here, because the shirt is getting caught under the grip for some reason.

[voilsb]

and here's 1 o'clock, where it sometimes goes:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=289466

edited for the same reason

[Teufelhunden]

arinvolvo,

Kudos on improvising a way to take a picture of yourself--nice use of the mirror ;). I've got to chase the wife down and bend her to task...

-Teuf

[ctc]

Colt Defender
Alessie - CQC/I (w/ snaps)

Covered
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/May/20035232699873535869837.jpg


Uncovered
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/May/20035235370858042058430.jpg

-- Chuck

[ctc]

Colt Defender
Alessie - Watch 6 Dual Talon

Covered
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/May/20035231012417101683200.jpg


Uncovered
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/May/20035236044470535112278.jpg

-- Chuck

[Henry Bowman]

Office casual, covered:
.http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=290652
The rig:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=290686
This is a Tucker Gunleather "Texas Heritage" with a standard over-the-belt clip in front and a J-hook in back. I attached a holder for my BlackBerry (like a pager) to the front clip with epoxy. This hides the clip and reduces the bulk of having a second clip on the belt. I like Jim March's J-hook modification idea.

[P95Carry]

Just a quick few shots - P97 here actually .. taken in my ''office'' cum gun room, reloading room etc (chaos reigns!). I shall soon switch to T-shirt only mode (if this damn spring ever becomes summer!) and the M85will be similarly placed.

Soon also tho to try out my elastic wasteband IWB method with P97 .... this will allow for tucking in or not with T-shirt and keep piece tighter to me. I'll try and take a quick shot or two with Bianchi sho rig if time.

Excuse the shabby ol shirt!

http://www.patriotnetwork.net/cb_gun/P97_02_s.jpg

http://www.patriotnetwork.net/cb_gun/P97_03_s.jpg

http://www.patriotnetwork.net/cb_gun/P97_04_s.jpg

[P95Carry]

Quick shots with Bianchi .... rather too quick in fact .. again cluttered room and tacky ol shirt - plus, on inspection realized I'd put rig's belt restraint loop in front of instead of behind my leatherman ...... normally would be set back a bit more. haven't used this rig since deep winter and transition to Fobus.

http://www.patriotnetwork.net/cb_gun/P97_b_01_s.jpg

http://www.patriotnetwork.net/cb_gun/P97_b_02_s.jpg

http://www.patriotnetwork.net/cb_gun/P97_b_03_s.jpg

[Bowlcut]

Henry I really like that setup...thats uber slick. May have to do that for myself. Like the idea of mounting your pager/blackberr to it. Maybe in this day and time the cell phone belt clip if you are that cool to carry your cell phone on your belt :)

[Gordon Fink]

If I had a California CCW permit, I might wear something like this. For now, it allows me to answer the door while armed but without alarming any visitors.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=297413

[Gordon Fink]

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=297416

The pistol is a Kahr Arms MK9, riding in a DeSantis belt-slide holster. It would also work well in a pocket holster. ;)

~G. Fink

[blue86buick]

I don't have a CCW, let alone a handgun (yet), but I've been considering the idea for when I do have one. I'm curious/worried about a couple things though. First thing I'm curious about...when using an IWB with an untucked closed front shirt (t-shirt), do you worry about not just printing, but exposing the butt when you squat, bend over, stretch/yawn, etc? What do you do to prevent this? Obviously you can wear an extra long shirt where this won't be a problem...but what else? Secondly, those using an OWB holster with cover (vest, un-buttoned shirt, sport-coat), do you worry about exposing the holstered gun when your covering opens, such as from a breeze, walking fast, etc? What do you do to prevent this?

Also, if for whatever reason you do expose your gun, besides merely re-covering it, do you do anything else?

[arinvolvo]

Blue...I have accidentally shown my piece more than a few times...i dont wear huge shirts, and I dont even own a vest...So sometimes bending over and what not will expose the holster....The best way to stay out of trouble is to just nonchalantly cover it back up...dont act all freaked out by the fact that a couple people just saw it, and they wont get freaked out either....It also helps to always dress nicely....if you look presentable, and dont act suspicious, you wont give people a reason to feel suspicious about you. They will figure it must be legal since you didnt make a big deal about it, or they will just assume you are an off duty officer.

Ok I got a few more.

Here is my SteyrM9 in a Galco FLETCH lefty holster. This is what I normally carry...Which really isnt that often.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=299088

[arinvolvo]

And here is a new holster that I bought for my Autauga today...I havent worn it in public yet...but I have been wearing it around the house and I am liking it a lot....Doesnt print at all, and I barely notice it is there. It is just a cheapo generic KNJ nylon holster for 32 autos...but it was only 8 dollars, and I love the way the guns fits, and the way it feels.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=299100

[BLiTzNicK]

...when using an IWB with an untucked closed front shirt (t-shirt), do you worry about not just printing, but exposing the butt when you squat, bend over, stretch/yawn, etc?


The best way to avoid this is to carry the pistol slightly in front of the hip, with a forward cant (pistol leaning forward, muzzle pointing back).

When bending, the pistol's grip would have to be behind the line of one's back in order to 'print'. By simply moving the pistol forward a bit on the waist, and canting the pistol appropriately, 'printing' can be avoided. This is of course personal preference, and will take a bit of experimenting in front of a mirror.

The same can be said for OWB, but of course the shirt will need to be long enough to cover the muzzle end of the weapon at all times. This is why I prefer IWB.

[drod]

Glock model 30 in Sidearmor 20* cant holster with their new belt hook attachment:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/pabee2c9c2a45ecfcfa128a5ba9391da4/fc94b11b.jpg

Covered:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/p452ec41a4c8fdcf369c1937aa441c11e/fc94b118.jpg

I made this picture this past winter. It works well with a sweater or sweatshirt. In the summer, it works equally well with an untucked shirt.

[drod]

This is my Glock model 36 in a SideArmor 15* cant IWB holster with the standard belt loops:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/pc65a28efb1c976517c65dbffa1008158/fc9acf32.jpg

Covered:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/pe7d1bdfc9163da4afed829fbb396de4a/fc9acf2f.jpg

Oh, we must not forget the mag carrier on the other side:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid52/p75d439eeec9ca4a1b887685544f310c0/fc9acb61.jpg

[Monkeyleg]

When I'm in a free state that allows me to carry, these are the two primary setups:

For moderate to cool weather: http://www.dickbakerphoto.com/mccovered.jpg

Same setup uncovered: http://www.dickbakerphoto.com/mcuncovered.jpg

For warm weather: http://www.dickbakerphoto.com/argcovered.jpg

Same setup uncovered: http://www.dickbakerphoto.com/arguncovered.jpg

[arinvolvo]

RAP, covered/uncovered...Uncle mikes cordura pancake thumbreak.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=344762

[arinvolvo]

Autauga MKII, in leather IWB push up holster...Shown outside of the waistband, and under the belt for illustrative purposes.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=344768

[littletiger]

Hi all,

A friend of mine asked me to help her find a carry system for her off-duty weapon. She is having the typical femal CHL problems of the weapon wedging into her hip & a lack of carry options for when she doesn't wear a belt. I found this site linked in another thread & was very amazed at the concealabilty of Betty's USP in the bellyband.

If I may, I have a couple of questions.

First, what make & model of belly band is that that you're wearing, Betty (or anyone)? I have looked around, but have yet to find one that's black in color.

Second, if I can ask this w/o getting too personal (no offense or other undertones are intended by the following question), the belly band that you are depicted wearing is riding low on your hips, not around you "belly" per se. For a comfortable fit, you purchased a belly band measured for you hips as opposed to your waist, yes? I ask because this info is for my female friend.

Thanks in advance for any help,

[P95Carry]

John, welcome to THR! :)

Hoping my memory is correct here .... tho I don't know the make of the one Betty is using .. I have a ''Defender'' from Action Direct ... that is black. There is also I believe, ''Thunderwear'' ...... no links right now but if you Google these it should come up with something I hope.

Only prob I have had is ... wanting to wear it low but it creeps up .... it's somewhat in my ''reserves'' box these days.

There is also Smartcarry .... I think that is http://www.smartcarry.com/ . and that is a different deal but maybe worth consideration.

[happyguy]

Betty said, "You can tuck the shirt in around the holster, but I didn't like the belt clips showing, so I made him pull his shirt back out."

The J-Hooks that are available from Comp-Tac work with the "Answer", in fact, I believe the kydex shell of the "Answer" is made by Comp-Tac.

Regards,
Happyguy:D

[arinvolvo]

Call this thread lazarus, cause it was raised from the dead.

[mpthole]

Call this thread lazarus, cause it was raised from the dead. Boy, you ain't kidden! ;)

Whomever was looking for an answer from Betty... I don't think she frequents here anymore. :(

[Carbon_15]

Beretta 86 and a white belly

[Mil Novecientos Once]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid109/pabdb38bb8d4d961b0fbfef4efd945f98/f932ace8.jpg

Here is a bigger picture. (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p45c85f833325522ed604ba1cfc9d8e07/fa9ca2c0.jpg.orig.jpg)

[middy]

Well, since this thread seems to have a new life...

My Glock 19 with Clipdraw. Practically invisible at 5 o'clock.

http://myweb.cableone.net/amidthune/gc.jpg

http://myweb.cableone.net/amidthune/gu.jpg

http://myweb.cableone.net/amidthune/gwc.jpg