Never buying a SIG again


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silverlance
October 26, 2006, 01:19 AM
Well, at least NEW SIG pistols.

I bought a SIG Mos in February. Paid $425 OTD here in CA. 1 magazine.

Failure to Fire is common. Pull trigger, hammer drops, nothing happens. Failure to drop hammer is also common - the POS magazine disconnect kicks in whenever it's not fully seated.

I paid 70$ to have it shipped back to SIG. I just got it back 30 minutes ago. Their verdict - cannot duplicate problem, fired 60 rounds of CCI Mini Mag with no malfunctions.

BULLSH*T. Of course, it is still malfunctioning, even with CCI. Never mind with other brands. It's also ridiculous that a 400$ pistol is inaccurate, FTFs frequently, and can only achieve somewhat acceptable performance with a SINGLE brand of ammo.

This sure ain't no p228.

To add insult to injury they returned the gun to me full of grime. They did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the gun except fire it. For this they kept it for four weeks. No explanation, no apology, just "here you go, sorry".

I am a very big SIG fan and I am going to avoid buying new sigs as much as possible and DEFINITELY never buy a mosquito again.

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Black Majik
October 26, 2006, 01:24 AM
The Skeeter is well known to be a high dollar POS. But I don't feel this should be categorized with the other P-series SIGs. Many of the new P-series SIGs I've shot have been great.

Dump that mosquito and move on. Sorry to hear about your problems...:o

real_name
October 26, 2006, 01:25 AM
Were you using CCI MiniMag?
Did they issue a report on anything else they did?
Have you ever had a problem with any other Sigs?

Moonclip
October 26, 2006, 01:47 AM
I was just going to say what BM said, concur 100%. If you don't want to support Sig Sauer anymore due to service and this is the reason not to buy Sigs anymore I understand. But to base all SIg Sauer products on the Mosquito is not a good idea, kind of like basing all opinions on S&W autos on the older Sigmas and Sigma 380.

jlh26oo
October 26, 2006, 01:53 AM
For this they kept it for four weeks. No explanation, no apology, just "here you go, sorry". They did in fact apologize!

Seriously, sorry to hear of your probs. Dump that sucker and get a Mk II or something. And I agree with judging not judging the line from their worst example. That'd be like me judging steel kahr based on polymer kahr.

Kestrel
October 26, 2006, 01:56 AM
This sure ain't no p228.


You've got that right. As the other posts stated, the Mosquito is a piece of junk. Sig should have never brought that thing to market, much less designed it the way they did.

It's something more on the line of a Lorcin or Raven, etc.

I don't say all that to criticize your gun, but to recommend you cut your losses. I wouldn't spend another dime shipping it anywhere.

(You might send Sig a video of you throwing it in the ocean. Maybe tell them you posted the video on the Internet...)

Maybe I'm feeling surly at the moment...

silverlance
October 26, 2006, 01:57 AM
I know.

I am very pissed at SIG right now.

HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO US? If SIG were any less of a company this would be equivalent to suicide.

Majic
October 26, 2006, 02:22 AM
Failure to drop hammer is also common - the POS magazine disconnect kicks in whenever it's not fully seated.
I can understand that you are upset and others have had troubles with the pistol, but isn't that exactly what it's suppose to do (not fire when the mag is not in place)? It is your job to make sure the magazine is seated fully in place.

Kestrel
October 26, 2006, 02:23 AM
Deleted, while I ponder the wisdom of posting this info...

silverlance
October 26, 2006, 02:42 AM
but the magazine IS seated. there's just the teeniest bit of give sometimes, and.. the... my gun becomes a brick.

Dollar An Hour
October 26, 2006, 02:53 AM
The Skeeter is a shame to the Sig brand.

Informed buyers avoid them.

Some people took a chance and got lucky with a good Mosquito, but alot of people got burned like you. Sorry man...

psyopspec
October 26, 2006, 02:56 AM
If you don't want to support Sig Sauer anymore due to service and this is the reason not to buy Sigs anymore I understand. But to base all SIg Sauer products on the Mosquito is not a good idea.

While the product is a lemon, I think it's the sour customer service that really has brother silverlance (justifiably) worked up.

Seven High
October 26, 2006, 08:44 AM
I think that I would call Sig again, ask to talk to the person that tested the Mosquito, and discuss the problem with him. Then send it back to them.

Ala Dan
October 26, 2006, 08:54 AM
I'm with my friend Black Majik on this one~!:scrutiny:

You should not lump all SIG pistols in the same category. You have the
Skeeter's, the SIG-Pro's, and the Classic P-series. I stick with only the
Classic P-series pistols; ie: the .45 ACP caliber P220A, and the 9m/m
P228. But, I have owned the .40 caliber P229, and a 9m/m P226; they
just weren't for me~!:cool: :D

texagun
October 26, 2006, 09:44 AM
I researched the Mosquito after they came out. It didn't take much research on the internet to figure out I wasn't interested in owning one of them. They do not enjoy a good reputation. I own many other Sig models....ALL are excellent guns. I would recommend http://www.sigforum.com/ for research on Sig handguns.

defiant73a
October 26, 2006, 10:29 AM
Perusing SIG Forum, I noticed silverlance's experience with SIGArms customer service was unfortunately not atypical when it comes to "problem models" like the Mosquito and the current production P220S.

Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
October 26, 2006, 11:02 AM
The skeeter is an entry level, potmetal-crafted, hit or miss proposition.

It is the replacement (in sig's market) to the Hamerli trailside, the prior entry level, hit or miss proposition.

Cousin Mike
October 26, 2006, 11:12 AM
I own several SIGs, and carry one or another everyday. There isn't another production gun out there I'd rather have or trust my life to.

That said, when it came time for be to buy a .22, I bought a Ruger Mk II. I'd just heard too many bad things about the Mosquito to take a chance with my $400. I'm sorry that you got burned on your purchase, believe me I understand. I've bought several guns that I wish I'd passed up.

I'd also agree that it isn't wise to judge all SIG products based on the Mosquito. I'm sure that from now on, no one will have to remind you to research these purchases before you hand over your hard-earned greenbacks. That's a lesson that most of us here have had to learn the same way.

Geno
October 26, 2006, 11:26 AM
My Daughter Wanted a "skeeter"...I said no and swatted it. We had rented one twice. When it was new, it worked great!!! Next time we rented it, about a month later, it had become a full-fledged POS. Agreed, buy a Ruger Mk II. Even my daughter said she was glad that she had bought her Ruger Bearcat and her Contender instead.

Now, I understand that the full-size, professional Sigs are awesome. But, to me, while each pistol is judged on its own merits, each also adds to/detracts from the company's overall "value". Sig really hurt itself with this piece of plastic that they call a Mosquito. But in fairness to them, they tried to warn us with the pistol's name...mosquitos are as-annoying-as Hades!!

Doc2005

dhoomonyou
October 26, 2006, 11:36 AM
call SIG customer service, ask for a Manager, ask for a pick up label (billing SIG) and ask for $70 worth of "SIG STUFF" to reimburse you.
Give them a chance to make it right. Let us know.

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Phone: (603) 772-2302 (press #3 for Customer Service)
Fax: (603) 772-4795
Email: customerservice@sigarms.com

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Shawnee
October 26, 2006, 11:45 AM
Hi Lads...

I'm going to be the "odd man out" and say yes, I would abandon the entire SIG line - because it is the company that is continuing to market the mosquito even though they know it is not good. The company deserves to be shunned.

Local opinions obviously vary. :uhoh:

High_Cap
October 26, 2006, 02:07 PM
Never had any issues with my Sig Mis
I only use CCI mini-mags and the heavy spring. I shot 1000 rounds about 2 weeks ago and had only 2 mis feeds due to ammo.

22's a picky about ammo and the mini-mags seem to be the ones for my gun. I also use militec on the slide and keep it fairly dry. Been reliable as any other 22 I own. Most of the problems I have seen with them is the lock on the bottom of the gun slips and then the gun immediatly stops. Just checking that first usually solves the problem.

The biggest thing is to clean out the factory oil right away if you don't they never seem to work.

EdLaver
October 26, 2006, 06:46 PM
I agree with Kestrel's idea of sending SIG a video of you throwing it in a lake or something...HAHAHAHA! That would be great!:D

Correia
October 26, 2006, 06:54 PM
I've sold a handful of Sig Mosquitos this year. None of those customers have complained or brought them back, so no first hand knowledge of bad mosquitos.

Love their regular guns though. Sold a pile of them. No complaints.

Frandy
October 26, 2006, 08:07 PM
And Sig dumped the Trailside from their lineup? :rolleyes:

Oh...that's a Hammerli! :evil:

Stick to the combat guns Sig... :neener:

SouthpawShootr
October 26, 2006, 08:55 PM
And Sig dumped the Trailside from their lineup?

If I'm not mistaken, the Trailside also had a problem. It was very accurate, but prone to frame cracking. Since I shoot the hell out of my .22s, I want something that will last.

My father actually had money down on a Mosquito when they first came out. When he asked what I thought of it, I did a little 'net research and found widespread disappointment with these guns and promptly told him about it. B/c he was an excellent customer, he was able to shift his deposit over to another gun he liked and have the shop return the one he was going to buy to inventory.

I feel bad when I'm in the shop or at a gunshow and I see somebody buy a Mosquito. For a (relatively) inexpensive .22, I would say best buy is a Ruger MK II followed by Browning Buckmark. For a really nice one, I'd say S&W 41.

Ops Officer
October 26, 2006, 09:14 PM
Sorry about your experience with the Mosquito. Yeah, I've read lots of sour experiences with that SIG model on the SIG Forum. I am mystified why SIG continues to market it. I am equally mystified about the spotty SIG customer service when it comes to the Mosquito.

I own several SIGs, all .45 ACP, and have a SIG P228 as an issue firearm from my agency. "This sure ain't no p228." I would say not. I have never had a failure with the P228. It is a sweet, sweet compact 9mm. I'm amazed how accurate it is. I would not place the Mosquito in the same category as the rest of the SIG line. When my head stops spinning over the choices SIG offers for the P220, I intend to buy one. It has the deserved reputation as one of the best .45 ACP production pistols out of the box.

Obviously, I would look elsewhere for a .22. You might check the appropriate forum for opinions on a particular pistol or revolver before you lay out any cash. This forum, SIG, and S&W are absolute gems and have influenced me heavily on my purchases. Oh, I would continue to press SIG for an adjustment.

weregunner
October 27, 2006, 10:26 PM
There seems to be a frequent coincidence or commonality in threads of this nature. Person calls customer service and gets bad service. A lot of threads at various forums, including here and in past posts has had the info to call and get another representative or ask for a manager. Both are good advice. It may be attitude of individual at customer service or lack of training. More and more complaints deal with attitude and lack of knowledge by service reps on the phone. Good people are hard to find and companies for what ever reasons will not train personnel. This does not bode well for those companies that do this. Have had bad service from disgrunteled service personnel and asked for a manager on the spot. If not then caled back later and made sure the person I was talking to was not the same one. Most makers ususally monitor incoming calls for just this sort of problem. It may be a pain, but a letter(registered mail maybe) can get things done when sevice by phone is bad. Sending a e-mail or snail mail letter to the proper authority can get things done. Have had to do it on several occassions. Have had ecellent service for the most part from several manucfaturers. So it can be done. Communicating the complaint in factual well thought out and to the point language simplifies the problem. Most of us need practice in communication skills. These are not taught by parents or teachers the way they used to. Practice and experience help tremendously. So give it another go. It can't hurt.May be a pain. Immediate satisfaction in anything is hard if not impossible to find. Wish you luck.

kbheiner7
October 27, 2006, 11:32 PM
I looked at the Mosquito, bought the Buckmark instead.

I killed a jack rabbit with it at 47 paces last weekend. Needless to say, I am quite happy with the little Browning. :D

varoadking
October 28, 2006, 11:22 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the Trailside also had a problem. It was very accurate, but prone to frame cracking.

Actually, it was the trigger guard that would break, but you are right on one point - they are very accurate...

Mikehos
October 11, 2007, 01:21 AM
I'm real happy with mine.

zeroskillz
October 11, 2007, 12:46 PM
I've sold a number of Mosquitoes as well, and have yet to hear any complaints about them. Also something to note, the Mosquitoes just underwent a significant price drop, ending out around $300 for a NIB gun, but this may be a limited time special, I'm not really sure. I've got a number on hand and would be happy to test fire any of them for a customer before shipping :evil:

-Ted


edited to add: regardless , don't let the experience with one gun from Sig put a damper on the whole lineup for you.

The Lone Haranguer
October 12, 2007, 10:46 AM
I have had nothing but good customer service from Sigarms. The people I've talked to on the phone were professional, they paid for all the shipping both ways and I got the gun (a GSR, their interpretation of a 1911) back quickly with the problem du jour repaired. And they replaced the first gun after repairing it three times. Unfortunately, therein lies the problem.

KelTecian
October 12, 2007, 12:56 PM
I had a GSR that I had some issues with, and it kinda soured me on sigs for awhile. But I love the P series to much to just quit buying Sigs

Anna's Dad
October 12, 2007, 01:10 PM
This thread is a year old...:)

YardVarmint
October 12, 2007, 01:29 PM
Well lets face it, I love Sigs, but the Mos. is a Sig in name only from what I understand.

sig226
October 12, 2007, 10:22 PM
I'm going to have to send mine back to Sig. It works perfectly. There must be something wrong with it.

Surefire
October 12, 2007, 11:19 PM
Why would a company like Sig (that builds some of the finest production double-action semi-autos on the market IMO) put out a piece of junk product like a Mosquito? I could understand if it has early bugs, but it seems like even new Mosquitos are poorly made.

A company with Sig's great reputation should either pull the Mosquito all-together, or completely redesign it around the normal quality that they use (even if price has to go up). Just IMO, YMMV

possum
October 13, 2007, 02:51 AM
there have been many problems with the mosquitos and i have read endless post with people saing how bad they perform. don't let that hamper you buyinf other sig pistols they are pricy but they are top quality. sorry you had bad luck with the one you have.

buttflyzzz
October 14, 2007, 01:54 PM
there is one thing for sure you have to keep them very very clean. if i do so i have no problems with mine.

Mikehos
October 14, 2007, 02:09 PM
2500 rounds and still shoots great. I have found in my shooting the Mosquito over the past several weeks, that most of the problems I have had have been caused by either ammo or operator error. I find that when I rest my right thumb on the slide release it won't hold open when the mag is empty, for obvious reasons. Also if I place my thumb under the mag release the upward pressure can cause the slide to lock open mid magazine. At first I thought the gun was not cycling. I eventually realized I was locking the slide back with my upward thumb pressure causing the slide to lock open. It took me a few magazines to figure out I was the problem. I have repositioned my thumb and all is well.

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