Makin real guns look fake
wacki
October 26, 2006, 01:21 AM
I just noticed this
Han Solo
http://www.stardestroyer.net/tlc/Cannons/soloblaster.jpg
backup han solo image...
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6888/461cl2.jpg
WW2 mauser
http://website.lineone.net/~braithwaitej/mainsite/overview/guns/mauser.jpg
What other guns did Hollywood try this trick with?
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October 26, 2006, 01:53 AM
Star Wars is full of them. Stormtrooper weapons - Sterling submachineguns and various German machine guns. Jawas - sawed-off Enfield with a gigantic muzzle attachment (and a power cable). Many more.
Aliens - Thompson submachinegun/Remington 870 hybrid, MG42s on Steadicam harnesses, HK VP70s (not made to look fake, just an unfamiliar sight).
Blade Runner - Charter Arms revolver with some sort of Steyr rifle receiver attached, tricked out with LEDs.
For the record, this was off the top of my head with no research whatsoever...well, not today anyway. :rolleyes: Detailed responses from my THR friends not afraid to look nerdier than I to follow. :)
Rezin
October 26, 2006, 12:19 PM
The new Battlestar Galactica seems fond of Vectors..
USMC - Retired
October 26, 2006, 12:28 PM
The Mel Brooks film "Spaceballs" used Calico's as "Blasters"
Nekron
October 26, 2006, 12:44 PM
The guns used by the aliens in the movie "I Come In Peace" were modified Calico M950s. Pretty impressive in full auto too!
mp510
October 26, 2006, 01:02 PM
The fancy blasters in one of the new Star Wars movies were modified Baikal air pistols.
Manedwolf
October 26, 2006, 01:16 PM
Galactica has also had Edward James Olmos' character running around with what looks like an unmodified CZ-52.
The fancy blasters in one of the new Star Wars movies were modified Baikal air pistols.
If you mean Episode 1, according to the propmasters' writings, they were Beeman FWB's. One of the "visual dictionaries" also shows one with the Beeman logo still on the side.
As to other guns, Firefly in particular used a Taurus .38 hidden in a bronze Walker-like frame for Mal's sidearm, a Saiga 12 for Jayne's "Vera", and various other things, modified and not, including a Vektor, LeMat, and many large and small frame autos.
bthest86
October 26, 2006, 02:13 PM
What were the guns used in the original Planet of the Apes? Some sort of overdone stock put on some M1 Carbines?
AJ Dual
October 26, 2006, 02:15 PM
The new Battlestar Galactica also makes use of FN Five-seveN's with a little ersatz "grenade launcher' on the accessory rail as the most standard Colonial sidearm, Beretta CX4 Storm 9mm carbines and FN P90's with silencers for Colonial Marine long arms.
Human "Resistance Fighters" on Caprica were also using a mix of Skorpion .32 ACP machine pistols, HK UMP's, and even a "Sniper rifle", which looked to be a relatively common bolt action, like a Remington or Savage, but in that Choate brand "Dagrunov"-style sniper/varminting stock they sell.
The Insurgency on "New Caprica"/Cylon gulag planet had lots of AK underfolders, but they were careful to try and keep them out of any "beauty shots". Usualy you only saw the full rifle in chaotic combat scenes with hand-held camera work and running actors, or only the barrel and gas-tube assembly in close in shots. Presumably an AK is too recognizable even for the non-gun public.
What's notable is how BSG doesn't dress up their weapons at all. The most they do is standard scopes and lights on the long arms, and that fake grenade launcher they stick on the FN pistol the Colonial pilots carry.
I think having the humans using AK's is pushing it a bit, but mostly it's refreshing, BSG is good because they focus on plot and story more than props and "gee whiz" factor.
IIRC the Planet of the Apes guns in the original were M1 carbines and M3 "grease guns" in funky "ape-like" stocks.
mp510
October 26, 2006, 02:22 PM
IIRC, the new Planet of the Apes used Hi Point 995's.
Stevie-Ray
October 26, 2006, 02:27 PM
Red Heat.......Ahnuld's extended Desert Eagle shooting 9.2mm Pobyrin
Robocop........Peter Weller's extended Beretta 83
Gunner23
October 26, 2006, 02:33 PM
I was always under the impression that the Robocop gun was a modified long-slide 93R...I never really did any research on it though, it just looked like it to me. Is that a common misconception?
G36-UK
October 26, 2006, 03:11 PM
I was always under the impression that the Robocop gun was a modified long-slide 93R...I never really did any research on it though, it just looked like it to me. Is that a common misconception?
According to the article on the The RoboCop Archive (http://www.robocoparchive.com/), it was a standard M93R, with custom-made barrel extension with compensator, modified rear sight and a larger grip to fit Robo's hand. Here's part of the article:
But the really big advantage of this particular Baretta was that it fires a three-shot burst every time you pull the trigger. So what that gave the filmmakers was a very large quantity of flame, all in one burst. To maximize that effect, vents were cut into the barrel giving it a flame direction off to the side. This increased the overall look from different angles and gave it a little more flash. Sometimes they got a flame out the side ten inches long and another flame out the front over a foot long.
Admittedly, a nice gun.
On Calicos: in RoboCop 3, the "Rocket Scientist" robbing the Donut shop has one of those Calico rifles, and the pistol makes up the machinegun on Robo's Gunarm, but it looks like they added another helical mag to look like the flamethower fuel tanks (I am so sad for noticing this).
In the B-movie Space Marines, The Marines use Calico rifles, where the bad guys use an assortment of AKs, and in one case, an M203 with a custom pistol grip.
Other guns: A few of the guns in Doom are built around G-36 rifles.
The Marine guns in Wing Commander are AK47 rifles with the buttstock removed and an attached GP-30.
The Judge Dredd Lawgivers were Beretta 92Fs converted to full-auto by the armourers, and the Judge Hunter rifles were based on AK-47 rifles.
The ZF-1 from The Fifth Element was an AKS-74U.
That's about the limit of my gun-geek potential.
AJ Dual
October 26, 2006, 03:27 PM
The ZF-1 from The Fifth Element was an AKS-74U.
Does it really matter? They could have hidden just about anything in that egg, and did. :p
Manedwolf
October 26, 2006, 03:42 PM
ZF-1. Tacticool taken to the ultimate. :D
http://www.soniccompression.com/chris/pictures/movies/ZF1.jpg
witiku
October 26, 2006, 03:44 PM
The 'Terminator' Endoskeleton gun had a Calico grip used on the prop. Off that 100 round carbine thingy.
I made a few resin copies for a project that never got completed. One day maybe.
W (nerd :neener: )
nomadboi
October 26, 2006, 04:16 PM
You do resin copies? Hm....
(sorry, I run a prop weapons rental business, so that got me interested...)
http://www.fightdesigner.com
Drop me a line if you're looking to unload some.
G36-UK
October 26, 2006, 04:38 PM
The 'Terminator' Endoskeleton gun had a Calico grip used on the prop. Off that 100 round carbine thingy.
I knew I missed one.
ZeSpectre
October 26, 2006, 04:56 PM
There was this movie called "time cop" with Jean Claude VanDamme (or however that's spelled).
The "holdup" guy at the start had some modified submachinegun
The cops had what looked like P92 with some sort of barrel attachment and I think there was also a rifle with the same barrel attachment to change the appearance.
more fun at this page (http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/projects/scifi/scifi.htm)
The Grand Inquisitor
October 26, 2006, 06:04 PM
In the Star Trek Voyager episode "Nemesis", the planet Chacotay gets stranded has a war with one side using the AK bullpup modification (I think it was called AK 94 U or something...it was basically a cheap US made bullpup stock for the AK 47) and the other side using some sort of half-bullpup AR mod that I'm not familar with.
To my knowledge it is the only time that there has been a cartridge based firearm on Trek, outside of time travel episodes.
PS - This thread proves my theory that there are a whole lot of nerds here...
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