Chose your favorite CCW
Badger71
October 26, 2006, 04:04 PM
I've been doing alot of research on my next CCW and its come down to these attributes..
Must be a 9mm
Total length: less than 6 inches
Total Height: less than 4.5 inches
Thanks for your input!
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Rockrivr1
October 26, 2006, 04:06 PM
Kahr PM9 is my primary. Backup if needed is my Glock 26.
carterbeauford
October 26, 2006, 04:40 PM
I have nothing bad to say about my P11. Some will disagree but it passed my test for an everyday carry gun. It is finicky with ammunition, does not like heavier hollow points like a 147. With the short barrel it works best with a lighter hollow point like a 115 anyways
You can add a Hogue handall Jr. slip-on rubber grip to tame its mildly annoying recoil. It is not a high-end gun but you get more than what you pay for IMHO.
Oh, and welcome to the site!
Lou22
October 26, 2006, 06:30 PM
After mine was broken in after 200 rounds, it's been 100% reliable. It is also the easiest sub-compact I've shot to group well at 21 feet. Trigger is one of the best DAO. It'll go in most of my pockets.
It is my go almost anywhere gun.
Lou
orionengnr
October 26, 2006, 06:36 PM
Have not found anything better.
Mine feeds/fires anything that fits in the mag.
Soft-shooting and far more accurate than my scandium Smith (now gone).
I will look at the PF9 if it is ever distributed, but I've been holding my breath since February or so...
field70
October 26, 2006, 07:23 PM
S&W 3913
AirForceShooter
October 26, 2006, 07:30 PM
Bersa .380.
Light, accurate and if the LEO's grab it I'm not out a fortune.
AFS
EddieCoyle
October 26, 2006, 07:41 PM
Glock 29. 10 round mag in the gun w/15 round backup mag. 25 rounds of 10mm in a small package. Whoo Hoo!
raytracer
October 26, 2006, 09:28 PM
Check out a Para Hawg9.
joe
Hypnogator
October 26, 2006, 09:52 PM
Taurus PT-145 Millennium Pro.
If you MUST have a 9mm, go with the PT-111.
symr00
October 26, 2006, 09:56 PM
S&W 442 or 642. If you plan to carry something P-11 size, might as well go with the Taurus PT-145 or 745 as Hypnogator suggested.
http://www.mouseguns.com/ratguns/pt145/mp07.jpg
http://www.mouseguns.com/ratguns/pt145/mp08.jpg
http://www.mouseguns.com/ratguns/pt145/mp10.jpg
http://www.mouseguns.com/ratguns/pt145/mp02.jpg
2ndamd
October 26, 2006, 10:21 PM
I think 9mm = .356
Maybe move up 1 thousandths of an inch to .357?
Ruger SP101 .357 magnum
ronto
October 26, 2006, 10:51 PM
Ruger SP101 Spurless 2 1/4" .357 Magnum Revolver.
10-Ring
October 26, 2006, 10:52 PM
Off your list only, I like the Kahr :D If open to other makes & models....I'd go w/ HK P2000sk w/ LEM or Glock 26/27 :D
brett30030
October 26, 2006, 11:07 PM
P3-AT
Mooseman
October 26, 2006, 11:25 PM
Yet another fan of the Ruger sp101 in .357. Powerfull, easy to shoot and conceal.
Black Snowman
October 26, 2006, 11:36 PM
CZ 2075 RAMI, I have one in .40 S&W that will be my primary carry. I have a P3AT that will be my backup to it or my carry if I can't conceal the RAMI.
I like the RAMI because it's the same manual of arms as my other CZs and I can carry C&L. It can also be carried like a traditional DA but I like C&L best. The 9mm version packs 10+1 and you can use standard CZ 75 magazines as well so you can carry 15 round reloads.
I shot mine against primarily 1911s and SIGs in a charity action pistol match and placed mid field. Not to bad for a sub-compact going up against full size guns. Shots were from as far as 40 yards and I can hit 8" plates with it from 25 yards pretty quickly.
YMMV and all that.
It's slightly over your dimension requirements:
* 6.5” long x 4.7” high x 1.25” wide
* 3” barrel
* Weighs less than 25 ounces
* 10+1 in 9mm
Here's a link to a picture comparing it to the CZ 85 Compact and the "huge" CZ 97B (which actually isn't any bigger than a Beretta 92). Picture Here (http://www.blacksnowman.com/img/Guns/MyGuns/CZfamily.jpg)
Geronimo45
October 26, 2006, 11:45 PM
The RAMI or the ASP (only if you're willing to shell out much $).
Doug S
October 27, 2006, 12:08 AM
G26
Autolycus
October 27, 2006, 04:01 AM
I prefer the HK P2000sk with the LEM trigger in .40 for a CCW gun. I dont think there is a better gun out there for CCW.
bpisler
October 27, 2006, 07:32 AM
3" S&W 65-3 with a 642-2 as a BUG.
Oregongundude
October 27, 2006, 09:54 AM
The other selections would work. I haven't been able to find a subcompact as accurate as the XD in the either the 9 mm or .40 S&W up to 50 feet. Recently added a lasermax and night sights.
http://www.lasermax.com/products/images2/lms-3xd_large.jpg
:)
Anna's Dad
October 27, 2006, 10:24 AM
I voted for the Kahr, but I have read concerning things about the P-series. Despite its additional weight, I would probably side with the MK-9 as it seems to be extremely durable/reliable.
The only gun I carry is a KT P-32 which doesn't meet your caliber requirement.
jem375
October 27, 2006, 10:54 AM
list some decent handguns for ccw for your poll .....
I carry a Springfield Ultra Compact 45ACP, CZ PO1, G26, and sometimes a AMT back-up 45ACP....
progunner1957
October 27, 2006, 10:56 AM
Glock 30, Glock 21 or a 1911.
MCgunner
October 27, 2006, 10:57 AM
S&W 442 or 642. If you plan to carry something P-11 size, might as well go with the Taurus PT-145 or 745 as Hypnogator suggested.
Nah, I prefer my P11, more compact, lighter, accurate, +P rated, 100% reliable, best customer service in the business, true DAO, don't get no better. My P11 is just small enough to ride in a large pant pocket. That .45 doesn't look like it'd do pocket duty. I can carry it IWB, though, with its tuckable Rosen leather.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=44910&d=1158329912
BsChoy
October 27, 2006, 11:07 AM
Glock 19...best 9 I have ever owned
Big Calhoun
October 27, 2006, 11:17 AM
I prefer the HK P2000sk with the LEM trigger in .40 for a CCW gun. I dont think there is a better gun out there for CCW.
+1...in a IWB or fifth pocket on a pair of jeans. The Kimber Ultra Carry II in a shoulder holster would be my second choice.
rich52us
October 27, 2006, 11:18 AM
It's my daily carry and favorite. I know you said 9mm but I decided to move up, and you asked for MY favorite lol. However I like my P-11 for pocket carry when I can't IW the G 30.
mpmarty
October 27, 2006, 12:12 PM
Taurus PT145, trijicon sights, tuckable iwb holster, extra mag in offside pocket.
Won a Glock at local match, chose the 30, got it and immediately put it up for sale. Fit me like a 4 by 4 post, grip too short, too fat, lousy trigger, bigger in every dimension than the Taurus and less reliable feeding flying ash trays. Would like Taurus to take the PT145 and make a PT110 in 10MM they would really have something then.
Vern Humphrey
October 27, 2006, 12:54 PM
M1911. My current is a Kimber Classic. I also on occasion carry a Colt Detective Special. For my oldest daughter, I bought a Ruger SP 101.
Dirty Bob
October 27, 2006, 01:24 PM
It's gotta be the P-11!
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=45844&d=1159970841
I've chosen the P-11, but it's a system that requires practice -- perhaps moreso than some other available choices, like the 9mm pistols from CZ. I'm so sold on the P-11, though, that I recently sent my slide off for plating, so I'll have a small, fairly powerful, and nearly rust-proof carry pistol.
Regards,
Dirty Bob
Richard
October 27, 2006, 01:42 PM
My Bersa Thunder 45 works for me. Will it work for you? I do not know but it is worth a long look. Remember, I have many more expensive choices to choose from and I use the Bersa. Regards, Richard:D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid104/p27c390a3876e811336e89e72b5c35532/f98c3089.jpg
MCgunner
October 27, 2006, 03:12 PM
Taurus PT145, trijicon sights, tuckable iwb holster, extra mag in offside pocket.
Won a Glock at local match, chose the 30, got it and immediately put it up for sale. Fit me like a 4 by 4 post, grip too short, too fat, lousy trigger, bigger in every dimension than the Taurus and less reliable feeding flying ash trays. Would like Taurus to take the PT145 and make a PT110 in 10MM they would really have something then.
So, the PT145 feeds Speer 200 JHP reliably? Interesting. What does it weigh? To replace my current .45 it'd need to be under 30 ounces. I ain't replacing my favorite IWB with any more weight than that. It is more compact, though, my .45 being a Ruger P90. But, at 33 ounces unloaded, the P90 is pretty light weight, if bulky.
Something to think about, anyway. I'll still pocket carry the P11 or my .38 special Taurus M85UL 98 percent of the time, though, so it might be a waste to buy another IWB .45.
xv920j
October 27, 2006, 03:21 PM
Para Carry. If you're gonna make holes make big holes. (.45 cal.,that is.)
denfoote
October 27, 2006, 03:35 PM
I prefer the Kahr MK9.
d906670
October 27, 2006, 03:46 PM
Sig 229 in 357sig, still a 9mm bullet:neener:
Exmasonite
October 27, 2006, 03:47 PM
10+1 w/ the pearce grips on the gun + extended mag of 15 rounds in other pocket.
Trijicon Night Sights w/ tucker texas heritage IWB.
:neener:
PaulBk
October 27, 2006, 03:51 PM
see above :neener:
-PB
fiVe
October 27, 2006, 03:51 PM
For me it just works the best.
ugaarguy
October 27, 2006, 04:21 PM
Badger, I must ask, how do you plan to carry? If you're looking at true pocket carry then the Kahr PM-9, and Kel-Tec P-11 or PF-9 become your best choices in 9mm. If you're going to carry IWB, OWB, or otherwise, then you're size options open up considerably. Based on the measurements you list, I'm guessing you plan on pocket carry. Of the three true pocket pistols I listed, I really liked my KT P-11, until I discovered the even smaller, and lighter P3AT, which also has a much nicer trigger. Good experiences with both of those would lead to try the PF-9 or get another P-11 if I wanted a pocket 9mm.
oldschool
October 27, 2006, 04:46 PM
Kimber Compact Stainless in .45 if I get another it will be a BHP in 9mm I just don't like the 40 round. Weight is the only issue I have but weight also absorbs recoil. I've CCW'd in Florida at the beach in shorts and a tank top with both the Kimber & BHP, seperately, never spotted. If the merde ever hits the ventilation system its the same pistol I compete with. I'll cry when it goes into evidence but I will be around to do the crying!
MrPoker
October 27, 2006, 04:47 PM
Para Carry. If you're gonna make holes make big holes.
I have to agree. I am sitting in the recliner now writing this with it sitting in it's UBG IWB holster and don't even notice it's there.
oldschool
October 27, 2006, 04:47 PM
double tap
Vic303
October 27, 2006, 04:59 PM
DW CCO 1911.
Lennyjoe
October 27, 2006, 05:03 PM
None of the above. I prefer a Kimber Pro Carry .45 ACP.
Barr
October 27, 2006, 07:34 PM
Bersa Thunder .380. Cheap and dead nuts reliable.
BobMcG
October 27, 2006, 08:36 PM
My current favorite carry is a MiniFirestorm Duo-tone in .40S&W. Inexpensive yet with a lot of good features. A little rough at first but broke in nicely. (White looking substance is teflon.)
CALIBER: 9mm / 40S&W / 45 DA
OPERATION: Semi-Automatic
ACTION: Double Action
OVERALL LENGTH: 6 1/2"
HEIGHT: 4 1/2"
WIDTH: 1 1/2"
BARREL LENGTH: 3 1/2"
WEIGHT: 24.5 oz
SIGHTS: White Outline Drift Adjustable Target Sight
SAFETIES: ILS, Manual, Firing Pin, Decock
FINISH: Matte, Duo-tone, and Satin Nickel
GRIPS: Anatomically Designed Polymer Grips
hkenvy91
October 27, 2006, 08:37 PM
H&Kuspc45ss
MountainBear
October 27, 2006, 08:39 PM
Well, the easy answer would be whatever I grab from the safe that morning. There is a complicated answer, but I guess I have carried a lot of Glocks and my favorite of them for carry would be the Glock 23.
Hook686
October 27, 2006, 10:22 PM
S&W 4" 686
HuntAndFish
October 27, 2006, 10:28 PM
S&W 642.
Srigs
October 28, 2006, 01:18 AM
My carry choice out of the bunch is my P11. It is 100% reliable, easy to carry and I can use my smith 12 round mags in it! :)
tegemu
October 28, 2006, 11:41 AM
IWB, a Bobtailed Smith & Wesson Scandium Commander and for Pocket Carry, a Kimber Ultra Carry II, both .45 ACP 1911's. They conceal as well as most of your list, are very reliable, lightweight and have lots of OOOOMPH. In a 9MM it would be the Gold Standard, the Browning Hi Power followed by a CZ-75B.
Blacklabman
October 28, 2006, 01:11 PM
My favorite
G29
In 9mm
G26
TOADMAN
October 28, 2006, 07:24 PM
Glock 26 loaded with 147grn+P Georgia Arms, Gold Dot.
GroovedG19
October 30, 2006, 11:25 PM
For a deep concealment pistol either a Glock 26, P2000SK, or a P239.So I voted other.
Rob96
October 31, 2006, 05:09 AM
Glock 19
Ala Dan
October 31, 2006, 10:08 AM
Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry II in .45 ACP :uhoh: :D
Legionnaire
October 31, 2006, 10:55 AM
I voted PM9. But I also like the Ruger SP101. The Kahr rides nicely in an ankle or deep cover shoulder rig, in addition to the more traditional IWB. But if going IWB, I tend to prefer the SP101's greater power, or go to a larger platform altogether.
Joe Demko
October 31, 2006, 11:28 AM
CZ75 RAMI .40
LanEvo`
October 31, 2006, 12:00 PM
Mine's an older Springer Compact (4" upper on an Officer's ACP frame). For my tastes, "C.C.O." style 1911's are the perfect platform for a primary CCW piece.
Steve 48
October 31, 2006, 12:04 PM
These are my carry guns, P3AT, 642, Glock 27, PPKS, 3913, and the Springfield Ultra Carry in 45 ACP. Steve 48
jad0110
October 31, 2006, 04:49 PM
S&W 642 everyday. S&W 686 4" occaisionally on chilly days. In the future: Ruger SP101 3" :cool:.
Dallee
November 1, 2006, 01:35 PM
My P11.
lawboy
November 1, 2006, 01:55 PM
I split time 50/50 between a nickel S&W M19-2 2.5-inch 357, and an FN Browning Hi-Power, Belgian made. I love them both for CCW. Couldn't ask for more!
Richard Simmons
November 1, 2006, 04:02 PM
S&W M49 Bodyguard.
Redneck with a 40
November 1, 2006, 04:21 PM
My carry gun is the Taurus Mil-Pro 40 in stainless. This is one sweet shooting gun, very accurate, fits my hand awesome, the recoil is totally manageable, and its been 100% reliable after 1000 rounds. I really, really like this pistol, almost more than my XD-40.:eek: My duty load is the Winchester Ranger 155 grain JHP, 1200 fps/500 ft lbs energy. These rounds don't kick bad at all, I was pleasantly surprised.:D
chuck pullen
November 1, 2006, 06:33 PM
The 642, P11 and 3913 seem very popular here. I own one of each. Of the 3, the 3913 (3914 actually, same gun, different finish) gets my top vote. Great ergonomics, flat and slim, accurate as heck, and dead reliable. I appreciate the many merits of the 642, I really do, but the 3913/3914 is superior for me for CCW.
RH822
November 1, 2006, 06:40 PM
Taurus 24/7 40, Ruger P97DC .45, S&W SW9VE & PPK/S, but I carry my 1911 the most.
RH
Optical Serenity
November 1, 2006, 06:48 PM
I have a Keltec P3-AT, and have had other Keltec's in the past, and loved them.
sixgunner455
November 1, 2006, 06:54 PM
Pocket: 642.
Belt: CZ75B, or Detective Special, if I'm not wearing clothes that will support/hide the CZ.
tinygnat219
November 6, 2006, 02:28 PM
The Kel-Tec brand of pistols leaves too much to be desired. The guns should work out of the box and shouldn't need "fluffing and buffing" to ensure that they work. :cuss:
I currently carry a Taurus Millenium Pro 745C in .45 ACP. 6 +1 Rounds.
Tequila jake
November 6, 2006, 02:54 PM
Probably a S&W J-frame just because I've owned so many of them (7), although I also have a Kahr PM9.
Tequila Jake:confused:
romma
November 6, 2006, 03:19 PM
I said "other". I like my Kahr PM9, but I like my love Keltec P-32... I am hoping to pick up a P3AT eventually. I also like my Walther PPK/S...
EddieCoyle
November 6, 2006, 03:43 PM
My favorite
G29
Finally! I thought I was going to be the only one that carries a 10mm.
eng23ine
November 6, 2006, 04:18 PM
A Kel-tec P3AT loaded with Cor-Bon DPX. 24/7. Smallest, lightest SD caliber (barely) ever.
Doug.38PR
November 6, 2006, 04:27 PM
Must be a 9mm
Total length: less than 6 inches
Total Height: less than 4.5 inches
How do you come to this conclusion that it must be any of the above said.
I prefer a revolver. Either 4 inch medium frame in .38 Special+P or 2 inch D frame .38 Special+P. I picked other, and I just specified
rbernie
November 7, 2006, 10:40 AM
If it has to be small and it has to be a nine - it has to be a Sig 239. That's as close as I'll get to the stated criteria.
Heck, I can't *hold* a pistol that's 4.5" tall or less. It's too freakin' dinky to fit in my hands....
Lonestar
November 7, 2006, 11:16 AM
Glock 26 :)
If you don't like Glocks... get a Springfield XD Subcompact.
If either are too big, get a Kel Tec P3at.
Did not like shooting a P11...no vote
Skyys are POS...No Vote
the Kel Tec PF9 has promise, but let them work out the bugs first (I'll wait for the 2 gen)...No vote
Kahrs seem nice, never shot one
SSN Vet
November 7, 2006, 01:29 PM
works for me
ldyates
November 7, 2006, 03:51 PM
Switch to the CW9 with a KAngaroo holster from a G33... never been more comfortable and this gun has worked flawlessly.
aaronrkelly
November 8, 2006, 03:58 AM
Currently Im toting around a Walther PP (chambered in .32acp). This particular gun was made in 1957 and was delivered to the Bavarian Police. Good enough for the Bavarian Police means good enough for me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/aaronrkelly/All%20Guns/manurhin.jpg
1911austin
November 8, 2006, 09:08 PM
1911
jayp
November 11, 2006, 11:53 PM
S&W 642. +P 125 grain JHP. Guaranteed bang X5, fits in front pocket in Kramer pocket holster.
flip180
November 12, 2006, 12:22 AM
If it has to be a 9mm, I voted other and suggested a G26 due to your specifications in size. How ever, I had a G26 and ditched it on the third day of a three day/1000 round defensive handgun class at www.tacproshootingcenter.com in favor of a G19. Now, although the G19 is a wonderfull carry gun and packs alot of firepower in it's small size, I find myself pocketing my 642 in a Milt-Sparks pocket holster a heck of alot more due to it's sheer ease of concealability.
Flip.
1911_CQB
November 14, 2006, 12:07 AM
full size govt 1911:D
kidcoltoutlaw
November 14, 2006, 12:24 AM
P229 357 SIG
Coyote3855
November 14, 2006, 12:01 PM
Kahr P9 IWB, Kel-Tec 3AT in DeSantis pocket holster
crebralfix
November 14, 2006, 08:46 PM
My Kahr PM9 broke (frame cracked). Gone!
My friend's Keltec P11 had a terrible trigger and was unreliable....gone!
The P3AT was unreliable...gone!
I have no experience with the others. For guns that small, you may want to stick with the old standbys: S&W J-frame revolvers or the Glock 26 (ok, not so old).
For CCW, I prefer larger guns like the regular frame Glocks, S&W N-Frames with Ahrends Tactical Stocks, Browning Hi-Power, or a Sig.
It's all in the gear. A holster with proper forward cant can easily facilitate the concealment of a large handgun.
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