Handgun Frame Material


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Mark IV Series 80
May 17, 2003, 11:15 PM
What material is the frame of your primary defense handgun made of?

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The Silver Bullet 1719
May 17, 2003, 11:33 PM
A CZ-75B in Polycoat so non-stainless steel.

Ala Dan
May 18, 2003, 12:42 AM
Greeting's Folk's-

.45 caliber SIG-Sauer P220A = aluminum alloy frame


Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

agony
May 18, 2003, 12:43 AM
My primary CCW is a Kahr K9elite98....stainless frame.

My winter gun is an aluminum-framed P220-American.

Tamara
May 18, 2003, 12:45 AM
My current belt gun is teflon-coated carbon steel.

My current pocket gun is a steel slide on an aluminum frame.

My current purse gun has a titanium cylinder in an aluminum frame.

Feanaro
May 18, 2003, 01:21 AM
I'm not 21 yet(close, oh so close...) but if I had a handgun it would be steel. Not sure which kind(stainless/not) but I like the feel of steel.

Andrew Wyatt
May 18, 2003, 01:54 AM
my carry gun is an 1861 colt navy. brass frame.;)

Black_Talon
May 18, 2003, 05:07 PM
Mine's an SA Professional so non-stainless steel.

Quintin Likely
May 18, 2003, 06:25 PM
The plastic fantastic most of the time.

Hkmp5sd
May 18, 2003, 06:33 PM
Plastic of course. After all, I did pay extra to get my Glock 17 so I could carry it through metal detectors.

farscott
May 18, 2003, 07:38 PM
My primary is a Colt Government Model with a Combat Elite slide in carbon steel, and my BUG is a S&W M342 in aluminum alloy.

oogee
May 19, 2003, 02:55 AM
After all, I did pay extra to get my Glock 17 so I could carry it through metal detectors

metal detectors can find the glock.

there is a special edition of the glock 17/19 with carbon slide and a ceramic barrel BUT it's made in VERY SMALL NUMBERS to special orders from goverment around the world

SIG & HK are making "invisible" guns as well, remember that the bullets can be seen.

Hkmp5sd
May 19, 2003, 06:26 AM
metal detectors can find the glock.

I know. I was referring to the hoopla we had in the US when the Glock first made it's appearance and the anti's were afraid of it. It was even made famous in the movie Die Hard II.

blades67
May 19, 2003, 09:58 PM
It depends upon which gun I'm carrying.

Marko Kloos
May 19, 2003, 10:09 PM
there is a special edition of the glock 17/19 with carbon slide and a ceramic barrel BUT it's made in VERY SMALL NUMBERS to special orders from goverment around the world.

I don't know where you got that information, but it's completely inaccurate. There's no such Glock, nor is there any other handgun with a ceramic barrel and carbon slide.

Ceramic is hard as woodpecker lips, but too brittle for use as a barrel or slide. Carbon fiber is a reinforcing material, not suitable for primary use in major handgun components like frames or slides.

Even if you could make a weapon out of these materials, the ammunition would still be ferrous and thus detectable.

Prodigalshooter
May 19, 2003, 10:17 PM
Steel frame for me too.

venom600
May 19, 2003, 11:30 PM
Walther P99 .40 (sometimes .357sig :D )

Brian Williams
May 19, 2003, 11:52 PM
Stainless but I would buy a 940 if it came in blue in a heart beat.

maybe a 936 or a 937

oogee
May 20, 2003, 11:09 AM
today there are chasis or frames of racing cars, UAV, racing bikes, combat vehicles and even the mast on those around the world yacht racing yacht is made of composite materials.

the strongest and hardest man made materials are those composites.

today the research in material engineering is so advanced that it is possible to produce things of amazing strength the only limitation is your financial standings.

as far as bullets are concerned, I believe you would not want to meet an object that flys towards you at 1200FPS even if it is not made of metal.

GlocksRock
May 20, 2003, 01:22 PM
My carry guns are made of the drastic plastic.

Handy
May 20, 2003, 01:23 PM
Oogee,

Composites are strong, but not hard. That's why they are used for load bearing, not friction bearing surfaces. Metal is still the most useful material for a number of things. A steel bicycle frame need only be 15% heavier than a composite one, and will last longer, for instance.

You might be able to make a ceramic barrel. There are ceramic jet turbines, after all. But there isn't going to be a reason to make a ceramic Glock, or any other gun that takes conventional cartridges. Any special Xray proof weapon is going to have to be designed from the ground up, including the ammo.

There is no special Glock.

jacketch
May 20, 2003, 09:04 PM
Carbon fiber barrels do exist, I am fairly certain however that they have a steel lined barrel. A ceramic lined/carbon fiber reinforced barrel with the right design could work. Carbon/carbon composite would make a very light, workable frame. Also ammo does not have to be metal or even have a casing.

I still love steel!

oogee
May 21, 2003, 08:30 AM
It might not be produced by GLOCK, most likely to be some form of outsourcing to a specialized maker.

There are bullets made of some form of epoxy that would not be seen by magnometers – the so called “x-ray”.

A more frightening weapon might be all those knives made for UDT’s and combat engineering units to clear magnetically sensitive mines. Those knives are made of all kinds of materials that won’t be seen by most of the modern screening devices in airports.
I wont elaborate on that for obvious reasons.

Hkmp5sd
May 21, 2003, 10:08 AM
I wont elaborate on that for obvious reasons.

No need. :) They are commercially available to the public in the US.

yzguy
May 21, 2003, 10:46 AM
P-11 and P-32
Plastic GRIPS
aluminum Frame
metal Slide...

:)

Sean Smith
May 21, 2003, 11:22 AM
4140 carbon steel, soon to be hard chromed. :D

firestar
May 21, 2003, 09:04 PM
Even if you could make a weapon out of these materials, the ammunition would still be ferrous and thus detectable.

Who is shooting ferrous ammo?

Handy
May 21, 2003, 10:24 PM
Well, the Russians.

But I believe the poster just meant metallic, since ferrous means "of iron".

Mark IV Series 80
May 21, 2003, 11:35 PM
4140 carbon steel, soon to be hard chromed.
Hello Sean,

I wouldn't classify 4140 Chrome-Moly Steel as carbon steel, I would classify it as an alloy steel......

Alloy C4140 is an oil-hardening steel of relatively high hardenability. Its chromium content provides good hardness penetration, and the molybdenum imparts uniformity of hardness and high strength. C4140 responds well to heat-treatment and is comparatively easily machined in the heat-treated condition. With a combination of such highly desirable properties as good strength and wear resistance, excellent toughness, coupled with good ductility, and the ability to resist stress at elevated temperatures.

APPLICATIONS - Drill collars, bolts, rotary table shafting, axle shafts, chain links, rams, piston rods, etc.
Mechanical Properties - Tensile Strength 95,000 PSI, Yield Strength 60,000 PSI min.
Brinell Hardness - 187

Johnny Guest
May 23, 2003, 11:14 PM
Commander, aluminum frame

Frequent evenings and weekend carry - - S&W OR Colt Al frame .38.

I have other handguns I like a lot, but these three account for over 90% of my pistol packin'.

Best,
Johnny

Poohgyrr
May 24, 2003, 11:41 PM
Primary daily carry is a G .40. Otherwise it's usually a Hi Power. Sometimes a wooden club, opps I mean a cane to help me walk.

cratz2
May 31, 2003, 02:27 PM
I feel bad being a 1911 guy and all... but both of my daily carries are poly-framed guns. And in 32ACP and 9mm :uhoh:

drod
June 1, 2003, 12:47 PM
Primary carry gun is Glock model 30. Backup is S&W 642 stainless.

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