Cato the Younger
October 29, 2006, 01:40 AM
It appears that remington has come out with a new line a tactial shotguns. Is this an attempt on Rem's part to compete with Wilson Combat? Has anyone had experience with these guns? Are they worth the $$, or should I just try to find a old police trade in 870? Just looking for opinions, before I go and spend some of my hard-earned cash some new gun after X-mas break work $$ comes in.
October 29, 2006, 09:29 AM
How much money do you have to spend/are you willing to spend? Are you a tinkerer who likes to work on their own stuff and get it 'just so,' or had you rather buy it already done from the factory, more or less the way you want it? Do you know 870s well enough to pick out a good used one from among several candidates, or to shop around from store to store without having all possible candidates for purchase in front of you at one time to compare? Are you concerned with having just the right words stamped into the side of the receiver (that will likely get covered up with a Sidesaddle anyway) or is functionality good enough for you without 'just so' markings? Do you want the gun 'to run, or for fun'? Answer those quesions and you will be a good ways on to sorting out what you should do.
Personally I am an oldphart, I have been shooting 870s for nigh onto 40 years now and have yet to buy a new one (I ordered a specific catalog number 870 Police gun for my 50th birthday, the distributor sent the wrong gun, I got my money back and gave up on buying new 870s). I don't really care what the receiver says. I do not care if it is an old Wingmaster that can "only" handle 2 3/4" shells. It doesn't matter to me if it is blue or gray or green or black, or even coyote brown as long as it's an 870 and it runs (the plainer the better though). I don't use my 870s for bragging rights or showing off to friends (I'm too old for that to matter any more). I don't post pictures of my guns on the Internet, I shoot them, train with them, practice with them. I count on them to keep the wolves at bay if necessary.
I believe that the SHOOTER is tactical, and ANY 870 in the hands of a tactician is a tactical shotgun. And I believe that NO 870, regardless of how it is marked or accessorized, no matter what color it is painted, is a tactical shotgun just sitting in a closet, in a safe, or in a picture on the Internet.
But you are spending YOUR money and YOUR time on YOUR 870, and you can do whatever you want with it. I can understand if you're proud of it and want to show it off, and I actually like to see pictures of other people's nice 870s (I can't afford to buy them all, even though my wife thinks I'm trying). You can spend every spare penny you can scrounge on hanging accessories on the gun, and spend every spare minute posting pictures of it to all the dozens of Internet gun forums out there and bragging to your friends what a big bad mammajamma shotgun you have built, are building, and will continue to build (though you haven't actually really gone out and like, ever really like shot it yet) and talk about how it can reduce entire planets to smithereens at a glance.
Or you can go out and take classes from Louis Awerbuck, Randy Cain, Bill Jeans, John Farnam and everyone else who comes down the training pike, and shoot up thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo in the process of becoming one with your shotgun. You can take up 3-gun, trap, or skeet, or sporting clays, you can go hunting everything from doves to deer. It's all the same to me, the only person your choices will affect is- YOU.
Your money, your gun, your life, your choices- are you doing this for show or for go?. Whatever you decide to do, stay safe,
lpl/nc (curmudgeon in training 8^)
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