CZ-USA Bobwhite
sami
November 2, 2006, 10:56 AM
I recently looked at one of these at The Sportsmans Warehouse. Nice looking gun. Anybody know anything about their durability and performance?
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Wakal
November 2, 2006, 01:41 PM
Made in Turkey by Huglu...try a search on that :)
Alex
Scoupe
November 2, 2006, 03:04 PM
There have been some issues with them, mostly concerning broken firing pins. Serious clay-sport shooters avoid them like the plague. Guys that take them afield a few times a year for hunting often love them. You'll find people that love them and people that hate them.
Turkish guns in general have a less than stellar reputation in the US. I've even heard through the grapevine that CZ is dropping Huglu and looking for another country of orgin for their shotguns. I have nothing to back that statement up however.
TX1911fan
November 2, 2006, 06:15 PM
I have 2 Turkish O/Us (Yildiz) that I love. I recently went dove hunting with a guy who didn't have a shotgun. The first night, he borrowed a guys Beretta. The second, he borrowed my Yildiz. He preferred the Yilidiz and was heading to Academy to make the purchase. I'm not saying Yildiz is better than Beretta, but Turkish guns are just fine.
ArmedBear
November 2, 2006, 06:48 PM
Depends.
If you will put a case a year through the gun, then I wouldn't sweat it.
If you might shoot a case on a given weekend, I'd consider the Red Label and Citori to be the budget doubles, the 1100 to be the cheapest viable semiauto, and avoid anything less expensive like the plague.
kentucky_smith
November 2, 2006, 08:10 PM
Yeah, those Huglu's will sure wear out easy.
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BozemanMT
November 3, 2006, 10:00 AM
I've put 5000 rounds through a CZ (name escapes me, the SxS pistol grip one)
It died, I sent it back, they replaced it.
The new one is starting to double so it will be going back too, but it's probably got another 1000 rounds through it.
But, given that it only cost 700 bucks and not 3000 for a SxS I think that's ok.
I'd buy another.
taliv
November 3, 2006, 10:11 AM
i like them, but i'm the sort of person who would only put 3 boxes through one in a year. i just don't shoot shotguns much
they make a nice gift, too
ArmedBear
November 3, 2006, 10:49 AM
Note: If $700 is small change to you, ignore this post. If it's a significant purchase, this is meant for you.:)
Remember, given the duty cycle and expected life of a decent shotgun -- that includes a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 Express, both under $300 -- a nice-looking shotgun for $700 that breaks after a few thousand rounds is like a nice-looking .22 rifle for $700 that breaks after a few bricks.
I understand that a SxS is a different beast from a pump. But if $700 is more than pocket change to you, like me, I'd think long and hard about choosing neat-o over real quality.
I say this because I, like many here, can spend money too easily on a gun if I don't check myself. It's true that a decent SxS is $2000 new and hard to come by. But $700 isn't exactly nothing, to me, either. $700 will buy a brand-new 1100 Classic Field, which will last as long as you want it to provided you clean it and keep an extra O-ring around. Balances nice, too.
I can't afford a good SxS right now. That's just a fact. Fortunately, many clever people have made shotguns that work for me and don't cost so much. They're just not SxS guns. I'll buy one when I can afford it.
Whenever I've bought something that was substandard because I couldn't afford the "real thing", I've ended up regretting it. I don't care about "fancy", I'm talking about unadorned metal things like tools, cars, etc. that break at frustrating times and end up costing more money than I ever "saved."
Just think long and hard. "A pretty face don't mean no pretty heart.":)
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