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ATAShooter
November 3, 2006, 10:54 AM
I am getting ready to buy another pistol, and have the choice of 357 Sig. Now, my question is, Do you guys think this round is gonna go obsolete kinda like the 41 mag? I'd hate to make a purchase and this caliber go extinct. I know .45acp & 9mm are safe and will stay good, but this one has me wondering a tad. A guy at the local gunshop made the comment " 10 years and that round will be gone".

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m0ntels
November 3, 2006, 11:14 AM
The 41 Magnum is far from obsolete. Sadly the 41 AE is, but not the magnum.

Seriously it's probably more popular today than ever. But the 41 isnt what you're asking about, so back on topic.

The 357 Sig isnt ever going to be as big as 9mm or 45, but I think it is going to be more popular than other carts such as 10mm which is still readily available. Components to load are abundant and inexpensive, so if for some reason it does fade out, reloading will still be an option.

With as many guns chambered in 357 Sig and the conversion barrels being sold, I dont think the caliber is going anywhere any time soon. If you want one, go for it. The 41 Mag got my attention right after I got my Rockchucker and it didnt take me long to see that just because you dont hear everyone rant and rave about a cartridge doesnt mean it isnt a good one.

Randy

Starter52
November 3, 2006, 11:17 AM
I agree with m0ntels. As long as conversion barrels are available the .357 Sig is here to stay.

snuffy
November 3, 2006, 11:48 AM
Just because somebody is standing behind a counter at a gunshop, doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. It's just like the internet, more personal likes and dislikes than actual fact. Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one, and they all stink!

I have a m-22 glock. I knew that KKM makes a conversion barrel in 357 sig. What could be easier, drop in a different barrel, use the same mags, and viola a new caliber. The same feel, trigger pull, sights, but a faster, more powderfull round! What's not to like? Yes I did get it, couldn't be happier!:D

Basically the 357 sig is a 125 grain .357 magnum in a semi-auto, hi cap pistol. 14 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger, with reloads of another 14 rounds much faster than can be done with revolvers. As long as 9mm bullets are made in the short trauncated cone configuration, there will be bullets available. As for me, lee makes an excellent mold for the proper bullets, as long as there's lead and a heat sorce, I won't ever run out of bullets.

ATAShooter
November 3, 2006, 04:18 PM
Thanks all,... I had shot a 357 sig this week that my buddy has, and I liked it alot. I'm gonna get it. Again, Thanks

Uncle Don
November 3, 2006, 08:22 PM
I personally love the SIG. I can load it for the price of 9mm ammo and it gives me everything I'm looking for. It's easy to load as I use the factory crimp die for bottleneck cartridges and haven't had even a hint of setback in. If I'm reforming 40 cases, I use a little Hornady One Shot, but if I'm just resizing already fired SIG brass, I don't use any lube through my steel die. Haven't had anything get close to stuck yet. So far, I'm close to 4k rounds and have no intention of letting up.

Peter M. Eick
November 3, 2006, 09:28 PM
I predict that the 45 gap will go before the 357 sig. Now a better comparison from the 41 mag would be the 41 action express. That one is basically gone.

I do not believe the 357 sig is going anywhere. There is a loyal bunch of us like 10mm fans that will keep it around forever.

ATAShooter
November 4, 2006, 04:43 PM
I got the Springfield XD in 357 Sig today. I get to go to the range tomorrow. I'm so excited, I'm shakin like a cat crappin razor blades. Yes, I'm gonna reload, I need to call and get some dies sent... WOOHOO !!!!!

Peter M. Eick
November 4, 2006, 08:37 PM
My suggestion is dillon carbide dies, Lee FCD (works great in this caliber) Lee for seater die and RCBS for expander dies.

Use AA9 powder. In general some of the highest velocities and basically it fills the case so full you cannot set back the bullet.

Love the round. Easy to reload for once you work it out.

ATAShooter
November 6, 2006, 09:34 AM
After being a die hard 45acp shooter, I must say, I am impressed with this round. The report was heavy, but for the perfomance, I can sure deal with it. I am WELL satisfied with my purchase. Thanks to all for your input. Rick L.

ReloaderFred
November 8, 2006, 01:20 AM
I have two pistols in 357 Sig, and both are extremely accurate. My first was the Springfield XD, and it will make ragged holes in the center of the target all day long. I also had a barrel made for one of my Witnesses, and it also shoots great.

As for the other calibers mentioned, I also own one .41 Magnum S&W that was my duty gun for about 20 years, along with three Marlin Carbines in that caliber.

I've also got a .41 AE pistol, with a large supply of factory loaded ammunition and brass.

And then there are the 10mm pistols. I've got 5 of those, and would like to have a carbine in that caliber.

After you get that 357 Sig XD broken in, and find out what a great pistol it is, you'll probably want to take a look at the XD in .45 acp. I've got them in 9mm, 357 Sig and .45 acp. Great little guns.

When you get used to the 357 Sig, take it out and shoot some silhouette targets at 100 yards. You'll be surprised at how flat shooting that round is, even out of the short barrel.

Hope this helps.

Fred

grendelbane
November 8, 2006, 07:54 PM
In a world where the .44 Russian, and the .45 Schofield are still manufactured, you do not have to worry about the availability of a cartridge as popular as the 357 SIG.

It shares a head size with the extremely popular .40 S&W and 10mm, and it shares a bullet diameter with the extremely popular 9mm.

It is extremely easy for manufacturers to offer guns in 357 SIG, as the only difference between a .40 and a 357 is the barrel, (and magazine, on the P239).

357 SIG is here to stay. There are going to be very few orphan cartridges in this brave new world, and the 357 SIG is not going to be one of them.

This is coming from some one who has just purchased a large quantity of 9x23mm brass. Now that is one that might become scarce between production runs. Even so, I expect it to survive.

cbsbyte
November 8, 2006, 10:06 PM
.357 Sig is realtivly cheap to reload if one reloads 9mm since it uses the same bullets, powders, and small pistol primers. Only thing that is expensive are the dies, and brass.

snuffy
November 9, 2006, 01:55 AM
".357 Sig is realtivly cheap to reload if one reloads 9mm since it uses the same bullets, powders, and small pistol primers. Only thing that is expensive are the dies, and brass."

Not entirely true, except as concerning the diameter, .355. 357 sig bullets need to be of the trauncated cone configuration, short fat design. There are some bullets that are made especially for the 357 sig. Others can be used IF they allow the extremely short neck to rest on the driving surface of the bullet. A good bullet is the 124 grain XTP. Another is the 125 grain Hornady HAP,(Hornady Action Pistol), bullet.

Use of a common 9mm round nose bullet, will result in the front edge of the neck ending out over the ogive of the bullet. There's so little neck length that the neck can't grip those bullets tight enough, the bullet will be driven back into the case when it strikes the feed ramp. Also you can't seat the bullet longer, it won't fit in the mag!

Greg8098
November 11, 2006, 02:13 PM
The 357 sig will not fade IMO. I used to own both Glocks 31 and 32, and absolutely loved them. Very powerful round, intimidating blast and flash :cool: . I only sold them so I could fund Glocks 20 and 29 ( even more blast ) ;) . I'm also back in the market to replace my 357's, and currently I am looking at the Springfield XD.


Don't follow the hype, blaze your own path!!!

ReloaderFred
November 11, 2006, 02:59 PM
My Springfield XD in 357 Sig is extremely accurate and easy to shoot. I've got the 4" Service model, and it's got several thousand rounds through it without a hitch. It's one of the only pistols I own that I can close my eyes and bring it up in front of me, and it will be on target and with the sights aligned.

The 357 Sig was my first XD, and I was so impressed that I've now got two Sub-Compacts in 9mm and a Service model in .45 acp. My wife also carries her 9mm SC XD with her everyday. It's the only semi-auto pistol she's found that she can shoot well.

I own around 30 handguns, and the 357 Sig XD is the one I carry the most.

Hope this helps.

Fred

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