Which .22 for suppressor?


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Nightcrawler
November 4, 2006, 08:19 AM
Now that I live in a place where such things are legal, I'm strongly considering picking up a .22 pistol and putting a can on it. I was impressed by how quiet the suppressed .22s at the big shoot were. The Walther P22 sounded like a staple gun!

So what would be a good .22 plinker that's also good for putting a can on? Even though it'd be my first polymer framed pistol ever, I'm rather leaning towards the Walther P22. It comes with a threaded barrel (whereas the Ruger and Browning must be custom threaded), is very lightweight and is remarkably compact.

So who has a P22, and how do you like it? How many rounds does the magazine hold (I honestly don't know...I'm guessing ten).

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loki.fish
November 4, 2006, 09:29 AM
As long as you don't plan on doing competitive shooting, the P22 is perfect. I got one for the sole purpose of wanting to get a can for it. Some people have issues with some brands of ammo, I've only tried Federal Champion in mine and it runs great. The 2 mags it comes with hold 10 rounds each. I know somebody who has one of the Rugers and a can for it, it's really quiet as well, but he had to get the barrel threaded or another barrel.

CleverNickname
November 4, 2006, 10:45 AM
The P22 is a pot-metal piece of junk. Get a Ruger MkII or III, or a Browning Buckmark and have the barrel threaded. Sure it'll cost a little more but you'll have a much better gun.

kokapelli
November 4, 2006, 11:21 AM
The P22 is a pot-metal piece of junk. Get a Ruger MkII or III, or a Browning Buckmark and have the barrel threaded. Sure it'll cost a little more but you'll have a much better gun.

+1 on that!

Trumpet
November 4, 2006, 11:48 AM
+1 on the +1 :neener:

The P22 looks cool, but the Ruger and Browning outclass it (and will greatly outlast it). I wish the Walther and the Sig were made to those company's usual standards, but they're not.

Heavy Metal Hero
November 4, 2006, 11:51 AM
Rugers fitted with a supressor are probably the quietest guns I have ever heard. When fired you hear the bolt click and the "ping" of the target.

treymenger
November 4, 2006, 07:05 PM
Id also recommend the ruger route. I wish I could do it where I live. Two options for the Ruger. Both expensive options, but very nice.

1. Get a Gemtech Oasis receiver with a integrated supressor.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/treymenger/OASIS.jpg
2. Get a Tactical Solutions Pac Lite receiver. Comes threaded and is very lightweight. Add the supressor of your choice.
This would be my choice V
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/treymenger/GTOB9.jpg


http://www.tacticalsol.com/reviews/index.htm

Nightcrawler
November 4, 2006, 09:08 PM
Is that a Ruger 22/45? The main thing I don't like about the Mk. II/III is the heel-clip magazine release.

I like the idea of a detachable suppressor so I can plink with the can off if I want to. That Tactical Solutions gun looks really cool.

treymenger
November 4, 2006, 09:13 PM
its a mark III 22/45, so the mag release is right where it should be on a gun. The grips on the 22/45 arent the most comfortable in the world, but theres ways to amend that.

I need to move!

CleverNickname
November 5, 2006, 12:21 AM
The main thing I don't like about the Mk. II/III is the heel-clip magazine release.

The MkII has a heel release, the MkIII changed over to the button style that most semi-autos have.

Nightcrawler
November 5, 2006, 02:46 AM
Thanks for the info everybody. I didn't know about the improved magazine release on the Ruger Mk. III. That might be the way to go then.

They look bad-@$$ with the OD finish on the top half, too. :cool:

http://www.tacticalsol.com/products/images/pac-lites/45%20matte%20green%20threaded.jpg

When fired you hear the bolt click and the "ping" of the target.

Even better, we could hear the bullets hitting the cardboard.

zachsm
November 5, 2006, 08:16 AM
i thought i posted here before

most of those guys commenting about the P22 have neither owned one, shot one, or anything most likely.

for $200, and $ for a can, the p22 is one of the cheapest routes to go. you wont be dissappointed with your purchase.

now if you have the cash, and a DISTINCT PURPOSE for the 22 other than plinking and learning to shoot, the ruger offers a little bit more. although if you want to practice your shooting, it may or may not for some recreate the feeling of a centerfire handgun like a p22 does

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if you have the money for the ruger, then go cz kadet. Everything is similar to the 75B counterpart so it makes it better for practice...alot better. Same quality of CZ, and cheaply modified for a suppressor. and if youre ever interested in competition some use it for IDPA and so forth


http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/6661-2/CZ75kadet_UY9O9129.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/pbb2576e0772a5ee0dcd97967ae6365a7/f0149e3c.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid201/p1804361984381c4c8dd3851899529be4/f0149e26.jpg

Its just really hard to justify 250 or so bucks for a new ruger when you can have one of these new options out here

zach.

tallpaul
November 5, 2006, 08:27 AM
I am goin throught the same process myself. I am gettin a gemtech and will get a pac lite 10/22 barrell and likely the walther- it is really small - and a pac lite upper for one of my mark II's to start with anyhow. although I just may send out the ruger upper and have it shortened and threaded instead or also. I almost can't see keepin a whole registered ruger pistol thats doin nuthin... and since the paclite replaces one I am not sure...

Mac Attack
November 5, 2006, 08:50 AM
I purchased a P22 and a Gemtech Outback combo about 2 years ago. My P22 functions with every brand of ammo I have fed it from cheap white box to high end brands. I have not had a single problem with my P22 and consider it to be utterly reliable. As others have said, the P22 is not the most accurate handgun out there, actually feels like a toy and is fun to shoot because of how light it feels.

I also have a Ruger Mk II and when I compare the two I find the Ruger to be far superior in every way to the P22. I haven't had m Mk II barrel thread yet but I plan to along with all my other .22's (that' the benefit of having a detachable suppressor over a integral - you can move it around).

BTW, I was at the range one day shooting my P22 + Outback combo and another gentleman next to me showed up with a Ruger Mk II + AAC Pilot combo. We chatted for a bit and decided to swap cans to see which one was more quite. Testing wasn't very scientific and was just a couple of guys standing around listening at a distance. I didn't think it was possible but both cans sounded quieter on the Ruger than they did on the P22. Also, my Gemtech Outback seemed a little bit quieter than the AAC Pilot with Remington subsonic ammo.

Bottom line, if you just want something to play with and accuracy is not important, then go with the P22. If you want accuracy and the feel of a real gun then go with something else.

Nightcrawler
November 5, 2006, 04:41 PM
Everything is similar to the 75B counterpart so it makes it better for practice...alot better

I understand that, and I am a fan of CZs. However, I don't own a CZ 75, and I'm probably not going to buy one. This pistol isn't for practice; I practice with a .44 Magnum and a .45 Auto. I just want a .22 for suppression and for plinking, because it'd be really cool.

Besides, if I'm going to suppress a full-sized CZ, I might as well suppress the 9mm variant.

The Ruger probably will be more accurate, but I like how you can attach a laser to the Walther because (at least on the example I handled) the can blocks the sights.

Voerelover
November 11, 2006, 05:02 AM
I would suggest getting with a educated class III dealer and let him explain the differences between cans and intergal units. For one thing no one got into detail about ammo for the can unit? You must use subsonic ammo or you will get the sonic loud crack. I have really found for all supressors that CCI standard (under 1100 feet per second) is the absoute best for being low in db ratings!
With the intergal this is not as much a problem as the barell is ported to bleed of gas and keep it under the 1100 feet per sec. thus you will have no sonic crack. Now not all makers of supressors are equal either! Gem Tech I believe is still owned by DR. Phil Dater and Assoc. His has always been first rate, and quality is second to none! A newer guy is in Atlanta Ga and is [url]www.advancedarmament.com I have his intergal Ruger Mark II The loudest part is when the bold slaps shut! It is just that quiet! Try to visit as many web pages and see which maker is best for your needs! as I said not all is equal in Supressors and ammo alike!:uhoh:

zachsm
November 11, 2006, 07:15 PM
Nightcrawler Quote:Everything is similar to the 75B counterpart so it makes it better for practice...alot better

I understand that, and I am a fan of CZs. However, I don't own a CZ 75, and I'm probably not going to buy one. This pistol isn't for practice; I practice with a .44 Magnum and a .45 Auto. I just want a .22 for suppression and for plinking, because it'd be really cool.

Besides, if I'm going to suppress a full-sized CZ, I might as well suppress the 9mm variant.
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Maybe its because im young (gotta save money for college, work full-time with school + honors classes) my first interest is to go the money saving route

you should consider supressing a 45, if you have the money to supress a 9mm. 22's tend to be cheaper to buy the cans, and have many benefits. but 45's in my opinion can reach lower sound levels than a 22 or a 9mm could. No reason to supress a 22 unless you want to shoot small game with it if money is no option.

atblis
November 11, 2006, 08:39 PM
simply because they're superior to the P22. The P22 is truly a potmetal piece of junk. No way around that. And yes I am very familiar with the P22, and not just reiterating something I've heard. I am sorry, "cute" or "cool looking" does not make up for being an innaccurate jammomatic piece of crap.

Also, I think if you interest in something compact, doesn't the suppressor ruin that?

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