CZ 40P


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tango3065
November 4, 2006, 05:21 PM
I just purchased one at the gun show can anyone tell me about them and whats the durability and reliabilty like?

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tango3065
November 5, 2006, 11:58 AM
Also does anyone know if holsters for any other guns that will work?

Shrike360
November 5, 2006, 12:20 PM
Check out CZ Shooters (http://www.czshooters.com) for info on holsters. CZs are known to take a lot and keep on running. The 40P is among them. Most every problem people had with ammo was within the first 20-50 rounds, and the gun worked themselves out from there.

possum
November 5, 2006, 12:23 PM
congrats on the new gun!

here is a link to two holsters that Don hume makes, just go to a holster companies website and fill in the drop menus and it will take you rights to them if they make one for it. i don't personally like using a holster made for another weapon. that's why holsters are made, and if you are willing to pay the money for a nice pistol, and want a holster you might as well get one that fits that gun right! :)

http://www.donhume.com/Products/ProductsList.cfm?action=SearchByWeapon&WeaponID=42

atblis
November 5, 2006, 12:26 PM
It is the same frame as the P01, so I would guess that P01 holsters will work.

czforum.com has a forum for the 40p. That would be better for info.

Typical CZ. Abnormaly accurate, generally reliable, unpolished in some aspects, Second to no one in ergonomics. Triggers are serviceable but not the best (fixable though).

Nice pistol, awesome for the money. I saw them as low as $269.99 nib. I bought mine for $300 OTD, later got $50 back because it was actually used (dealer's mistake supposedly). The warranty card was filled out.

Mine had some feeding issues. The P.O. has obviously tried to modify the magazine, so I polished the mag lips, and works great.

A compact 40 with which I can hit gatorage bottles at 50 yards, one after the other, and all for <$300. What's not to like?

mons meg
November 5, 2006, 06:01 PM
Under $300? Was this from a guy in a track suit who found them after they fell off a truck? :D

panzermk2
November 5, 2006, 06:10 PM
Love mine has about 5k through it and the Don hume belt slide that came with it is sweet

tango3065
November 5, 2006, 07:51 PM
I put 150 rounds through today and never a ftf or a fte, also this is the most accurate handgun I have ever shot and recoil was hefty but manageable. I am thinking of getting another one at the next show in December if they have them. Also I have heard rumors that this is a limeted gun of only 1500 and this is not true dealer said they still make them just not alot of them and my gun was manufactured in 2006. Now if I could only find a holster to fit.:)

atblis
November 6, 2006, 12:26 AM
Not too bad once you get used to it.

I found the actual trigger not to my liking. CZ has gone to this thin sharply curved one that cuts my finger. Swapped in a regular 75 B trigger and everything's good.

DirksterG30
November 6, 2006, 08:58 PM
mastinson,

congrats on a great buy! I used to have a 40P; I only sold it because I wanted to consolidate my ammo (I had .380, 9mm, .40, and .45 in pistols - trips to the range got expensive real fast!)

While I had it, I found it to be a very reliable and accurate pistol. Incidentally, the slide for the 40P is from the Z-40, which was a joint venture with Colt that featured a .40cal slide mated to a 1911-style double-stack frame. The left-over slides were modified to fit P-01 frames. I found more info here: http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=18420&start=10&sid=571f877d7358b452fba5f3ac74296ac9

You may also want to check out the CZ Forum; they've got a section devoted to the 40P ( http://p201.ezboard.com/fczechpistols82792frm67 )

tango3065
November 16, 2006, 01:14 AM
panzermk2 have you had to replace anything in those 5k rounds? I have heard that a 40 wont stand up to the amount of rounds as a 9mm in any brand but I don't really know if that is true or not.

panzermk2
November 17, 2006, 12:18 AM
I have replaced nothing. I know that on CZ's SOMETIMES the extractor springs are week but I have had no problems. Every round I have put through have been HOT LOADS, no low powerd stuff. DoubleTap and other like ammo.

I know after 3k mark I should have replaced the recoil spring but its been working fine and I don't want to mess with something that works.

I did replace the mag springs with 10% plus wolff ones


As for 40's they are called short and weeks for a reason. I have over 20K through at least 2 of my CZ based 10MM witness's and have only replaced springs. And trust me these have all been full house 10mm and they make a whole lot more power then the shortened round based on it ergo the 40S&W

Neobayer
November 17, 2006, 04:21 AM
Try the Fobus RU-97. It was designed for the Ruger P97 but fits the 40P like ut was made for it. I would imagine other holsters designed for the Ruger P97 would fit also.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6530/ru97uy0cx1.jpg
There are a few custom holster makers on the CZ Forum who make very nice leather holsters for the CZ 40P.

tango3065
November 24, 2006, 09:29 PM
Since the 40P uses the same frame as the P01 and the slide from a 40B would you say that the 40p would be a very durable weapon since the po1 was put through a riggerious torture test, and you think it would work just fine for any SHTF or natural disaster where you would need a weapon for personal defense?

BTW I have other handguns but they are small mostly snubs and I purchased this one to put away in my BOB just in case the above situation should arise just be better preperared. Also in the 250-300 rounds I have put through it it has never had a malfunction of any kind but I was just wanting other opinions.

Thanks

Still 2 Many Choices!?
November 25, 2006, 05:45 PM
The only problem was that in the first boxes of ammo, it would jam every few mags. With that full length slide, I chalked it up to the metal parts just matching up. The double action trigger pull is a little heavy, but having no safety, I prefered it being on the heavier side rather than the lighter side:o . Besides, the single action trigger pull was only a thumb swiping hammer cock away. The decocker is good, and makes me feel better than the Ruger I was also checking out, as for some reason watching the hammer fall completely down on a chambered round just kinda freaks me out:uhoh: . The 40p kicks butt, and my only complaint about it would be that when I carried it IWB, it didn't matter if the hammer was cocked or not, it would rub my skin raw at the contact point. Nothing a holster change won't fix, but for now I guess I'll just stick to the Glock 23 for IWB carry. So for the dough, there really isn't a better deal going than that CZ 40P IMHO...

Still 2 Many Choices!?

tango3065
November 25, 2006, 10:55 PM
still 2 many choices how many rounds have you put through it, and is it now 100% reliable? Also do you think the 40P would be a durable relible weapon to stash away for a natural disaster such as Katrina or would you go with something proven like a Glock?

BTW I have only put a couple hundred rounds through mine but it has never burped once planning on another hundred or so in the morning and if it passes its going in the BOB and only getting shot once or twice a year.

Still 2 Many Choices!?
November 26, 2006, 04:28 PM
The firearm hasn't had a stoppage in the last 150 or so, but I have been on a rifle shooting kick recently. So none of my handguns have gotten a work out(other than dry firing practice). I can't answer the storage/bob issue as this CZ40P hasn't been handled/abused enough to give a true measure of it's ability to withstand neglect or carrying conditions. I would probably keep my Glock 23 as my BOB gun, and the CZ40P as a home defense weapon, as it came with factory night sights, and like I said before, the single action trigger pull is only a thumb swipe away. My 23 has passed all torture tests I could think of, some of which I wouldn't dream of doing to an all steal firearm(like not oiling or cleaning it through 2 months of range use and carrying):p . YMMV!

Still 2 Many Choices!?

tango3065
November 26, 2006, 05:48 PM
Put another 150 rounds through it today and 100 were rapid fire just to try to get a jam. So thats 350-450 rounds without a hiccup so it may be a keeper after all.

Buck Nekkid
November 26, 2006, 11:16 PM
I love my 40P, it's with me every day! I was one of the fortunate ones that bought mine NIB from J&G Sales in AZ last December for $269.95!! Because I got such a smokin' deal, I couldn't leave well enough alone. See the custom refinish job performed by Mac's Shootin' Irons of Tucson..

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/ottonsure/CZ40PT1.jpg

Still 2 Many Choices!?
November 27, 2006, 11:48 PM
I can't help but notice your 40P magazine does not protrude horribly below the grip:confused: !!! What magazine change or floor plate cured this, visually displeasing formality:banghead: ... That flush magazine look brings out the true beauty of the aesthetically pleasing CZ 40P.

Buck Nekkid
November 28, 2006, 03:13 AM
Pard the mag in my CZ 40P is one that I picked up for a CZ 75 Compact 40 S&W. Fits just about perfectly and functions flawlessly. If I remember correctly, it only holds 8 rounds.

yongxingfreesty
November 28, 2006, 03:36 AM
buck nekkid, nice two tone.

Buck Nekkid
November 28, 2006, 10:45 AM
Thanks! The frame is KG Gunkote "Dark Earth" and the slide is KG Gunkote "Satin Black". The work was done by Mac's Shootin' Irons down Tuscon way.

It's the same as the refinish job he did on my CZ 75B 40 S&W.

tango3065
November 28, 2006, 08:12 PM
Buck or anyone else what do you think I could for my like new 40P in trade in at a gun show or dealer towards a glock 19?

atblis
November 28, 2006, 10:53 PM
You'll most likely get hosed pretty good.

You'd do better selling it here or on czforum.com

Buck Nekkid
November 29, 2006, 03:16 AM
+1 on the above. Because they are kind of a "Frankengun", never really cataloged by CZ, and retailed for so little--comparatively--you're not going to get much. If they allowed you $225 I'd be surprised.

tango3065
November 29, 2006, 10:37 PM
Well I talked to the dealer today and he said 250 is what he would allow trade in on a G19 but he is out at the moment so I have a few days to think on it. Also there is a gun show this weekend I might take it with me and get a offer. BTW I really love this gun but even though it has been 100% I really want something that has a reputation a of being stone cold reliable, ability to takehundreds of rounds without breakage, and proven while being a little cheaper to feed. If the 40p had been around long enough to be proven I would feel better about it.

atblis
November 30, 2006, 12:22 AM
What's the dealer charging you for a G19?

tango3065
November 30, 2006, 03:11 PM
$265.00 plus the CZ40p but i'm still thinking on it and hoping I can do better at this weekends gun show.

gab328
December 2, 2006, 10:00 PM
matinson,

what about I buy yours for the $250 the dealer offers you (and I'll pay for the shipping). That way you can go back to the G-19 dealer and try to get purchase price lower without a trade.

if this is something you might want to consider, email me at gab328 at yahoo dot come.

have a good one!!!

-gabriel

tango3065
December 2, 2006, 10:59 PM
If you were in Kentucky I would of been happy to do a FTF but I traded it in today at the gun show for a few Bushmaster AR parts.

tango3065
December 7, 2006, 09:24 PM
A late update, I ended up going back the next day and buying it back after shooting a glock. The 40p may not be old enough to have the track record of the glock but I sure do shoot it better than my buddys glock19. BTW I have now close to 500 rounds through it and its still never malfunctioned, I am just glad I got it back for what I got out of it or I would of ordered another one, its a keeper.

atblis
December 7, 2006, 10:38 PM
Glocks take some getting used to. I can't shoot them worth a crap, and don't feel like learning how.

ezypikns
December 7, 2006, 10:39 PM
Deadly accurate, absolutely reliable. Outstanding ergonomics. Thought I wanted something else so I sold it (dummy).
I believe HBE holsters makes a really nice one for the 40P.

tango3065
December 7, 2006, 10:58 PM
I purchased a soft armor holster made by Lynx for a sig226r off from ebay and it works great I don't plan on carrying the 40P unless the the need arises, my daily carry is a 642 and I have 6 other j-frames that are idea carry guns.

DirksterG30
December 8, 2006, 03:36 PM
I had one. Sold it. Wish I hadn't.
Deadly accurate, absolutely reliable. Outstanding ergonomics. Thought I wanted something else so I sold it (dummy).
That makes 2 of us. I've got a P-01 to replace it, so I guess that's OK. Still, I regret selling it, although I made sure it went to a good home.

tango3065
December 8, 2006, 11:05 PM
I have heard that the 40p uses the same frame as the p01 if thats the case the 40p alunimum frame should hold up to quite a few 40 S&W rounds since the p01 was torture tested by NATO with 30,000 +P+ 9mm rounds, what do you think about?

At 500 rounds a year how many years do you think the 40p would hold up?

Also does anyone have a link to the p01 torture test I found it once but I can't find now?

Besides a extra recoil spring, guide rod, and mags what other spare parts would you keep on hand for a BOB/SHTF handgun?

Sorry for all the questions but as you can see I plan on keeping it ;).

atblis
December 11, 2006, 10:17 PM
I've never been able to break, then again I run factory or reduced recoil springs. Others have had problems with the occasional slide stop breaking.

tango3065
December 11, 2006, 10:49 PM
Shot a glock again today and I must say after the first hundred rounds I got good with it and really liked it. I am going to shoot it again if we have time tomarrow and even promised him I would clean it if he let me shoot it again:D , if all goes well like toady I will be getting a new g19 by the end of the week and possibly putting the 40p up for sale in the classifieds after I think on it for a few days.

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