If you could go back in time and advise yourself before you bought (or sold) your first firearm, what advice would you give?
I'd keep it simple:
--Don't waste your time with the really big magnums. They hurt to shoot.
--Get one good revolver in .357 or .44 Mag and don't buy any more.
--Pay attention to things like sectional density and twist rate, and try to figure out what you plan on shooting BEFORE you spend the money on a firearm. Read Chuck Hawk's website, most of all.
--Pay more attention to cartridges than the things that fire them. A firearm is merely a platform for the cartridge, and the choice of platform should come second, after you have chosen a cartridge.
--Always take a look at the crown. If you can't see nice lands out to the end, pass on that firearm.
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May 19, 2003, 02:14 PM
Hehe, how about:
--> Buy the MP5. You'll make at least a 300% profit on it. :p
May 19, 2003, 02:25 PM
Get training early on.
Move to a gun-friendly state.
May 19, 2003, 02:36 PM
Good judgment is based on experience. What is experience based on? Poor judgment.
Just be glad what you know now! :)
May 19, 2003, 02:37 PM
Don't take that job with NRA.
Don't marry her, marry the other one.
Buy a bunch of Bren 10 magazines.
May 19, 2003, 02:39 PM
Don't sell the Hk 91 or 93! And pick up a MP5 while you still can, that's what the credit card is for, remember???? "Emergencies!:D"
May 19, 2003, 02:50 PM
1. I'd go back to the time I got my first BB gun, second grade: Learn to shoot a long gun right handed!
2. Start working earlier - anything, like a paper route, even in junior high - to build savings & experience sooner.
3. Learn how to study - yes, public school is a joke and you don't need to study to do well, but when you get to college you'll take it in the shorts the first couple of years, and you'll waste time & money getting up to speed. If you learn how to study now, you'll graduate sooner and you'll be able to buy guns that won't be available when you can finally afford them.
5. Don't take the Mustang to the meeting in Santa Rosa. The resulting theft will set in motion a chain of events that will cause far more grief, pain, anger, etc., than just the loss of the car.
6. Double check the offset on that survey point.
7. Get 2 or 3 870 Expresses while they're still $200 new.
May 19, 2003, 03:37 PM
Buy that ugly Austrian Steyr-AUG or two or three. Same with the MP-5 (SP-89?).
When the Sedish Mausers cost $69. Buy in qty.
May 19, 2003, 03:43 PM
Since this should be gun related I can spare myself from having to think about all the important decisions that I should have made but didn't.:o
Anyway, I would have got my C&R FFL as soon as I could (18 I think) and I would have saved a bundel of cash on certain guns.:o
I also would have checked into the 9mm a lot sooner than I did, I could have saved a lot of time. I would have started shooting in leagues a lot earlier, it has made me a much better shot than before and I learned a lot of good stuff.
THE MOST IMPORTANT thing I would have done was to find a good gun forum and read it and post to it! These forums have informed me more and faster than 1st hand experience ever did. I just made mistake after mistake until I got some good advice from these places. They may not tell you what you should and shouldn't do but they do give someone some insights on what are god guns and what are poor guns. I didn't buy a S&W Sigma because of info learned on the net and I found out about CZ guns through the net. I got a CZ-452 based on info from a gun forum and it is one of my best buys in a new gun.
May 19, 2003, 03:51 PM
H&K 91 Styer AUG
Need I say more? :D
Couple of other notes:
- Make damn sure that last minute, voice vote approved machine-gun amendment doesn't make it into the 1986 Gun Owner's Protection Act.
- Make sure Bush v1.0 doesn't ban imports.
- Tell Ross Perot to forget about running.
- Randy Weaver would be forewarned, as well as the Branch Dividians
I could go on, but you get the point.
May 19, 2003, 03:52 PM
1977 - Buy several Colt MKIV Series 70 pistols, put some away for future use. Eat sparingly for several months to lose those un-warranted pounds.
1980's - Buy that submachine gun. Eat sparingly for several months to lose those un-warranted pounds.
1993 - Buy three (3) pre-ban Colt Match Sporters/AR-15 A2's, put two away for future use. Eat sparingly for several months to lose those un-warranted pounds.
Anyone see any re-curring theme???
May 19, 2003, 03:53 PM
Buy GE and Microsoft stock. Sell it years later, use money to purchase everything I want now.
Start reading forums like this at age 15.
Don't EVER talk to that one girl.
Don't speed on the Blossom St. bridge in July 2001.
Keep the P7.
May 19, 2003, 03:54 PM
The blonde, not either one of the brunettes.
Shift out of second gear.
Don't bother with the LDA.
Read the Midland paper. (2 Citori's, one 20ga, one 12ga for $600 each the day after I bought my 12ga Citori for $1000)
Don't bother with that cheap 300 Winmag
Buy more heavy barreled rifles in smaller calibers
Buy Microsoft at any price.
May 19, 2003, 04:04 PM
Well, if we're going to go the stock route:
Buy as much AOL stock as you can when it is initally offered. Sell it all Feburary, 1998.
May 19, 2003, 04:22 PM
Buy all the NFA weapons, fullcaps, and black guns you can.
May 19, 2003, 05:05 PM
Stuck with the brunette in'75, (then I wouldn't have met the blond, the redhead [shiver]...)
Bought that little 2 bedroom house for $7,250.00, out of HS
Gone to college somehow, out of state...instead of doing it now.
Bought the first stock, more of the 2nd,and run when I heard about the 3rd.
I could now be retired with $ for the rest of my life, with a house paid for, college education and all the well made series 70 GM's and other various guns I've always wanted.
I would have also traveled, taken Safari's. Reading history or Ruark,Capstick and Hemingway is one thing...going there and tracing steps is another.
And I should have ,when the offer was made, taken the Bondurant driving course, run the BAJA, and the Salt Flats...
20/20 hind-site and the guns I'd bought....
May 19, 2003, 05:08 PM
Get in on the internet boom. Get out before the bust. Take the profit and buy whatever guns I want.
May 19, 2003, 05:14 PM
If I could give young Standing Wolf some good advice, one item would be to sell fewer guns and buy more, and another would be not to move to the People's Republic of California in 1992 and back to the United States a decade later.
May 19, 2003, 05:16 PM
If I could advise myself about the first gun I sold, it would go a little something like this, "Stop! What the hell are you selling a brand new Browning HP for! You'll regret it all your life."
Also if I could talk to myself as I was browsing in Potomac Arms and Ye Olde Hunter in Alexandria, VA back in the '60's looking at all the neat surplus rifles from almost all eras, I would tell myself, "Stop looking you idiot! Buy the whole lot! And while I'm at it write this down, don't buy that Rover 2000 in about 10 years, it's a dog."
May 19, 2003, 05:43 PM
Buy Microsoft stock in the 70's
For the love of God don't sell the HK91 in 1993!!!
Keep the Speed Six and use a credit card for the M24.
May 19, 2003, 05:54 PM
Circa 1987, any St. Louis gun show, don't look at the price of the AR15, buy it and every other one you can find. Ditto on the Gold Cup (I did buy one). A few years later erase the "These SKS's will be worth a fortune someday" thought from my brain.
May 19, 2003, 07:17 PM
Don't waste your money on that Lorcin or that HyPoint, save and get the Beretta right away!
May 19, 2003, 07:35 PM
get as many s&w model 41s as i could afford.buy an original thompson 1927a1 deluxe and several drum mags.keep the ingram "powdersprings" mac 10,keep the colt ar15 i had in 85,dont buy that p.o.s ar15 22 l.r lookalike made in the philapines just because it looks like my ar and cheaper to shoot.follow the directions exactly on shooting a blackpowder revolver rather than listening to what my neighbor said.marry my wife right out of high school(where we met) rather than waiting 10 years(she went off to college and her folks encouraged her to see other men) to meet up again in a grocery store.this way,i wouldnt have spent all that money on the other women i let move in who were lazy and irratating(lol) and brought me such grief
May 19, 2003, 07:38 PM
Buy MANY Ruger Bearcats!
As Many DCM M1 Carbines and Garands as they'll let you.
Avoid the blond, go for the redhead - don't marry either.:neener:
May 19, 2003, 09:17 PM
hmmm go to the doctor and tell him about the headaches when I was 14 , stayed with the redhead in Highschool instead of the one I married and listened to the guys when they said don't marry her. Never think of quitting the academy , Don't even look into driving a truck . and I shouldn't have listened to her.... oh yes and kept my crosman 860
May 19, 2003, 09:23 PM
Buy the HK91.
Buy the FN FNC.
Buy the .44 Automag w/.357 Automag barrel.
Run like hell from the first brunette.
Remember to wait for back-up to arrive before entering the warehouse on April 23, 1995.
Don't let memories of first brunette screw up shot at second brunette.
Don't take overtime on Jan 21, 2001.
May 19, 2003, 09:28 PM
KEEP ALL FUNCTIONING FIREARMS!
I had trade fever for years. I worked in a gunstore and went through HUNDREDS (no kidding) of different guns. Something else was always cooler.
Glad I got over that. I wasted [$$]thousands[/$$].
Upside is that I can comment personally on almost everything made. :D
May 19, 2003, 09:51 PM
-Stay away from the brunette. Doesn't matter if she's buxom, and you're a hormone raging horny 14 year old
-Start convincing parents earlier.
-Join this board earlier
-Go back really early and convince ancestors to settle in a more gun friendly locale.
May 19, 2003, 10:14 PM
DON'T EAT THE APPLE!!!
Ok, so it's not me , but as long as I have a time machine...
May 19, 2003, 10:33 PM
Get the CZ-75 in the satin nickel finish
Buy as much 5.45x39mm as possible as cheap as it was at the Raleigh gunshow
May 19, 2003, 10:50 PM
Buy silver dollars, not beer in '63.
Keep the '66 vette 427 roadster, and get rid of the wife.
Listened to your dad and not your friends.
Did I mention the vette?
Put your guns in a safer place.
Keep the 2nd wife.
Buy Yahoo @ $25.
Sell Yahoo after the second split.
Buy more land.
Did I mention the 'Vette?
Get your grandfather's guns while you have the chance, and put them in the 'Vette.
May 19, 2003, 11:40 PM
Don't waste so much time on football. Very few kids who make it such a big part of their life ever have much to show for it once they become adults. Except for bad knees and shoulders.
Don't fight your sense of patriotism-surrender to it. You'll feel better as you grow older (and probably will have contributed more).
Make your heroes people who always put their country and/or friends first.
Go for something basic with your first handgun. A Smith & Wesson revolver. A Colt 1911. Stay away from anything saying Ultra, Tactical, Maxi, Mega, Special Edition, or Uber. Become proficient with it before you buy your next one.
If you never hunted or served in the military, seek out someone who can teach you how to shoot a rifle. Do it while as young as possible, while your eyesight is as good as it will ever be.
Read gun magazines in the library, or online. Before you even think about spending money on one, ask yourself how much ammo that money will buy.
After you've acquired a rifle, shotgun, and a handgun, and feel proficient with them, start saving for some professional training. Not another weapon.
No junk. Ever. Save for quality, even (and especially) if it means you have to sacrifice quantity.
Women? Be careful here. Meet their family if you find one you're at all serious about. Good looks are always great, but don't discount the ones that can have a great laugh with you and allow you to be yourself. Be careful how you treat them. You'll find this hard to believe, but they're someone's daughter. That will remain pretty meaningless, until you find yourself the father of a daughter or two.
Be serious about school. The way your education will impact your life (in so many different ways) in later years will astound you. Don't think you can always go back to finish a particular course of study. Get it done right the first time, while you're there. geegee
May 19, 2003, 11:48 PM
Buy the AR-15. It was only $350 back in '76. Stockpile the magazines and make a fortune years later. Also buy the Barrett M82 for $2,500.
May 19, 2003, 11:58 PM
Umm, guys, anyone notice ( unless I missed it) none of the ladies have responded.
Either they have made no mistakes,and bought all the firearms in their younger days.... or they are changing hair color.
I didn't talley the hair color that most of us guys should have avoided.
May 20, 2003, 02:20 AM
Hmmm...buy the HK91 for $450
trade for the Uzi, with the Uberti rolling block replica, that I had $250 in.
buy the condo in Dublin, CA, in '97.(I would have doubled my money in 3 years)
Buy GE, Microsoft, AND Home depot stock in the early '90's:D
May 20, 2003, 09:04 AM
Hocking guns to pay the light bill is a REALLY stupid idea. The light bill comes back next month, the guns are gone forever!
May 20, 2003, 09:55 AM
Buy all the $25 Lugers I can.
I think I'm gonna get sick just thinking about it.
May 20, 2003, 10:27 AM
Buy that S & W mod. 41 brand new when they were closing it out at Montgomery Ward for $299.
May 20, 2003, 10:32 AM
Don't buy that Walther PPK/S or that Para C6.45.
That drunk guy is going to walk out on front of your vehicle.
Don't date that man. Check out his criminal history and thank your lucky stars.
Don't buy that Colt Gov't .380 for Oleg - it's a lemon in disguise.
May 20, 2003, 11:21 AM
Dan Wesson 357 Heavy non vented 8". Keep it.:banghead:
Keep TC Contender, Keep Reminton XP100 35Rem.
Buy Qualcom(when I had the chance for $20.00) did not, sell Qualcom when it hit $650 after many splits. I WOULD be a MILLION, NO a few MILLION ahead.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
lee n. field
May 20, 2003, 11:52 AM
pass on the Jennings .22.
don't mess with crazy women.
May 20, 2003, 11:53 AM
Basically, I'd tell myself that you save money in the long run by going straight to the really nice stuff, instead of buying a bunch of progressively nicer and more expensive guns over several years. And you'll wind up buying what you really want eventually anyway. :rolleyes:
Also, I'd tell myself to skip the Para-Ordinance P14-45. :barf:
May 20, 2003, 12:08 PM
Buy the SPAS for 275.
Buy that Glock 17 from that dumba@@ down the street for 175.
Keep in touch with younggun.
Beat the hell out of pat.
Hang out with Mike the computer geek in Jr. high.
May 20, 2003, 12:22 PM
Spend more time in the military, and challenge myself instead of being lazy.
Don't go to college. Go to work immediately and follow the exact path I have anyway, only sooner.
Don't get married. Ever.
Buy a house ASAP
Get quality firearms education early and often.
Start shooting competition early.
Begin shooting seriously early; forget about shooting beer cans and shooting stuff to watch it come apart; become skilled.
Get into NFA stuff early back when it was far less expensive than conventional guns are now.
Don't ever sell a gun for any reason. Ever.
If I had followed that advice, I would be retireing in a few years with a very nice pension. I would probably have a very nice house paid for which I would sell and greatly augment my retirement income. And, I would have a much more extensive and higher end colleciton of guns; and be much better in their use.
May 20, 2003, 12:23 PM
Never have ahhhhh....hmmm.... "intimate relations" with anyone crazier than yourself.
When certain female knocks on door.....DON'T OPEN IT ! ! !
Run like a bat outta he** when your hear "Buddy, hold my beer and watch this...."
Know ahead of time that you cannot snatch the piece of cheese out of the 'loaded' mousetrap with getting some appendages smashed. OW ! ! ! Quit it !
May 20, 2003, 01:45 PM
This is beyond doubt the MOST depressing thread I have EVER read on THR! I can't even read anymore, please stop! Your depressing the hell out of me!
May 20, 2003, 05:10 PM
My first firearm was a single shot Marlin .22. My first handgun was a CZ-75.
If I had to do it all over again I wouldn't change a thing except I never should have let that old Marlin get away from me.
May 20, 2003, 06:21 PM
I'd go back to the late 70's and pick up as many DIAS or lightening links as I could posssibly can. And invest the rest of my money in a small fruit company.:D
May 20, 2003, 06:34 PM
Tell my younger self to get a job after school. Put half of earnings into Microsoft stock.
May 20, 2003, 06:59 PM
Kick that one guy in his back years earlier - or kick one of his friends. :evil:
Get into sports shooting years earlier. ;)
Buy HK SR9 while still legal and available for reasonable price. :mad:
Don't even notice that black haired girl. :eek:
Don't invest in fonds on Monday, September 10th, 2001. :fire:
Get a pre-entry for a semi-auto .308 before April 1st, 2003, to buy G3-style rifle after the fall of German AW ban. (Not applicable if SR9 had been bought) :(
Yesterday evening, check left review mirror before backing up out of the parking space. :banghead:
May 20, 2003, 07:35 PM
oops, wrong topic...:uhoh: but still sound advice...in my case
May 20, 2003, 07:47 PM
I was thinking about posting just such a question about three days ago... :p
I'd probably suggest to myself to skip most of the cheap stuff I've had. For rifles, get one nice bolt action rimfire rifle, one nice lighter caliber (.243, .25-06) and get one nice heavier caliber rifle (probably a 30-06) and put decent glass on them. For handguns, get one nice 22 target pistol or revolver (Dan Wesson or Smith 617), one very nice 1911 (take your pick), and one nice smaller carry gun (???).
I went through a long period of buying something because I had some money burning a hole in my pocket instead of waiting to get what I actually wanted. Or buying what was in the store instead of sticking to what I really wanted to get. For well less than the total that I've spent, I could have six completely custom built guns built specifically for me, exactly how I wanted them.
May 20, 2003, 07:59 PM
Once you find something that is reliable and is a good fit for you, stick with it, whether it's a firearm, friend, spouse, etc.
Gun magazines are not the best source of information on guns. People who use them on a daily basis are.
If you lose faith in a gun, get rid of it.
Don't be an early adopter when it comes to firearms unless you are willing to be one of the first to know the bad things the factory (and gunwriters) may not even know.
Don't be an early adopter of new cartridges unless you don't mind being stuck with a collectable that's expensive to shoot.
Quality is better than quantity. If you're wealthy, this doesn't matter.
Quality does not necessarily mean the most expensive.
If you buy something to carry, but you're afraid to carry it because it's too expensive, get over it or get rid of it.
If you use a gun, it's going to get scratched and worn. Get over it early, and you won't have to waste much time worrying about it.
Know your limitations when it comes to how much firearm you can handle.
Don't second guess yourself about the past.
May 20, 2003, 08:08 PM
Don't waste your money on those gun mags. Buy ammo and training instead.
Never, ever, for any reason sell a German Sigp226 preban. No matter how good a deal it is.:banghead:
May 21, 2003, 05:29 AM
kept the gun my dad gave me
May 21, 2003, 02:36 PM
I'd go back to 1992 when I turned 18
1. Don't screw up your credit
2. Buy AR's
3. Buy AK's
4. Buy Glock mags
5. Buy H&K Mags
6. Buy 10-22 Mags
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