Tang Mounted Sight - Similiar to Tom Horn's in the Steve McQ movie.


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dmftoy1
November 6, 2006, 10:05 PM
Anyone know of a tang mounted sight similiar to the one Steve McQueen used in "Tom Horn"? I'm treating myself to a cowboy style 45-70 1895 Marlin (I know . .he shot a 45-60 Winchester. :) ) and I've always wanted one of those sights on a lever action.

Have a good one,
Dave

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de
November 6, 2006, 10:26 PM
Your talking movie imagination on the 4560. Tom Horn in real life shot a Model 94 Winchester with a 26 inch barrel in calibur 3030, known then as the 30WCF. As far as a tang sight for your Marilin 1895 Cowboy in 4570 I bought one from Marble. They are around $150.00 as I recall. You have to drill and tap the tang (one hole) to mount it. I do not like mine and took it off, but thats me, you might. The rifle is a kicker and I had to grip the rifle in an akward way which was painful. Someone may make a kinder one than Marble's big square sharp edged mount. What I do like is, I took a Lyman receiver sight for a Model 94 Winchester, drilled and taped the Marlin 1895 cb receiver and mounted it. Lyman says it shouldn't work, but it does very well. My Marlin 1895 Cowboy 4570, my 1957 Winchester Model 94 3030, and my Model 92 Winchester 357mag. clone (Navy Arms) all have the same sights front and rear on them. Very little transitions in rifles other than the 3030 shoots much flatter. For the front sight on all three rifles, I put posts with white stripe centers.:D

dmftoy1
November 7, 2006, 06:51 AM
Yup, I knew that he shot a 30/30 in real life but it was the movie rifle I was talking about. :) I think I saw his 30/30 in the Cowboy Hall of Fame down in Oklahoma City . . . at least that's what sticks in my mind. (It's been a few years) Thanks for the advice on the tang site . . . . so you think on the 45/70 it is painful to shoot with one in place? I've never shot one before just always liked the look of them. Is the Marble's sight one with twin bars that rise vertically, or more like a Lyman #2? I need to dig up a copy of that movie so I can look again but I "thought" he had the twin bars on his.

Thanks again,
Dave

de
November 7, 2006, 10:14 AM
I don't honestly know. I should have also mentioned that my loads are a 405 grain bullet (hard cast) at 1750fps. That's why it's a kicker if you don't hold it right. It will however shoot through a 375lb feral hog end to end. I shot one with the load at about 30' in the forehead and it exited the ham. Hog droped on her feet. That much power is not necessary but fun. I also kill hogs with an AR15, with one shot.

Brian Williams
November 7, 2006, 11:07 AM
The Marble's tangs sights are a single post, it should work for a full sized 1895 Marlin, because of the weight, the shorter ones can be thumpers.
Here is my 1894 with a Marble's tang sight. Great sight, I use a Merit adjustable peep disc on mine.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=30826&d=1131141913

Jim Watson
November 7, 2006, 11:18 AM
You will soon learn to not wrap your thumb around behind the sight base on a .45-70. Is this a posed scene or does the young woman routinely shoot without eye protection?

The tang sights with "twin uprights" are vernier sights more commonly seen on single shot target rifles. I guess you could put one on a lever action.
Buffalo Arms has a wide selection.
www.buffaloarms.com

dmftoy1
November 7, 2006, 08:57 PM
Thanks guys!

She could have on hearing protection. I was taking mine out today (for the first time) and had in foam plugs. (thanks for all the suggestions)

On an unrelated question . .any idea how the adjustable buckhorn sights work? If I turn the screw does the sight move left/right or ?? The screw is oriented with the screw head pointing towards the buttstock and the threaded end pointing towards the front sight. (This is a 1998 1895 Ltd II)

BamBam-31
November 7, 2006, 10:08 PM
IIRC, that pic is indeed a posed scene.

Brian Williams
November 7, 2006, 10:50 PM
She has in Ears, we forgot Eyes, WE have caught much grief for this. But that is a great setup and very accurate. A 357 with low 38 level loads makes for a great starter.

Jim Watson
November 7, 2006, 11:17 PM
The only screw I know of on a Marlin open rear sight holds the little notch insert. Loosening the screw lets you move the notch insert up and down for fine elevation adjustment or to reverse the insert for V or U notch. I don't think it is a windage adjustment. You get that by knocking the sight across in its dovetail.

dfariswheel
November 8, 2006, 01:36 AM
There are several tang sights available.

Lyman:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=7961&s=20224

Marbles:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=8835&s=21552

Axtell makes replicas of most of the old factory tang sights:
http://www.riflesmith.com/sights.html

Montana Vintage Arms:
http://www.montanavintagearms.com/vernier.html

Davide Pedersoli:
http://www.thunder-ridge-muzzleloading.com/p_sights.htm

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