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zamboxl
November 7, 2006, 11:24 AM
omg anybody seen this bad boy yet it looks o so sexy, any reports on how good it is, or is it a dud? What are your thoughts http://www.beretta.com/index.aspx?m=53&did=168

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MatthewVanitas
November 7, 2006, 12:40 PM
The Rx4 Storm is a self loading semiautomatic rifle conceived for "Small Game Hunting"

Those quotation marks seem pretty loaded...


Any reason why they're wasting half of their potential sight radius?

-MV

carterbeauford
November 7, 2006, 01:00 PM
Small game rifle that is legal to hunt with in how many states? :uhoh:

I don't see a scope rail, and agree with Matthew, the front sight needs to be on the barrel where God intended it.

RNB65
November 7, 2006, 01:22 PM
Looks like an ugly piece of crap to me. But that's just me.

KaceCoyote
November 7, 2006, 01:59 PM
I love my SU-16 CA, and its front sight is ontop of the gas block.

rocketfish
November 7, 2006, 03:01 PM
:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

Evil Monkey
November 7, 2006, 03:10 PM
That thing looks like a shotgun. And it's ugly too.

Bring back the AR70.
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2000/2000.htm

Seancass
November 7, 2006, 03:29 PM
Any reason why they're wasting half of their potential sight radius?


its called "style." its actually now more important than function.

Zero_DgZ
November 7, 2006, 03:39 PM
Actually, for the same reason as they do it on the CX4 - To facilitate barrel/caliber changes.

junyo
November 7, 2006, 04:03 PM
Looks like an ugly piece of crap to me. But that's just me.
No, it's me too.

gotime242
November 7, 2006, 05:20 PM
i cant wait

Ohen Cepel
November 7, 2006, 05:32 PM
I like it, would have to actually handle one first though. Any idea of actual price yet?

I don't see the big deal about the sight radius. The M16's sight isn't on the end of the barrel either.

50 Freak
November 7, 2006, 06:07 PM
That does look pretty dumb.

Have you guys seen California's response to not having an AR-15 type rifle? Personally I think it would kick the Storms butt but I'm a little biased on this rifle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/BlackStar_Arms.gif

Shawn 357
November 7, 2006, 06:08 PM
I like it, I would even consider getting one if it were $250 or less:)

sturmgewehr
November 7, 2006, 06:22 PM
I bet that thing isn't on the market a year before it's dumped. Good luck selling that ugly thing. As already mentioned, the sight radius is too short. This wouldn't be a problem if it has a rail system to mount optics. Perhaps it's drilled and tapped for a scope mount... who knows.

I'll point and laugh when I see one.

Evil Monkey
November 7, 2006, 08:48 PM
That Blackstar AR is definitely going places. It's going to be a success in kali-like areas of the US. I mean come on, it can take ar15 uppers and all the accessories that can go on the uppers. That's neat.

Coronach
November 7, 2006, 11:27 PM
Concur. You have (what is I assume to be) a complete, standard AR upper, mated to a Kali-compliant lower that you can discard upon moving to a free state or repeal of the current restrictions. Plus you get to laugh in the face of the Kali gun grabbers as you use a gun that is, in every important way, the equivalent of a standard AR.

Oh, bloody brilliant.

Mike

cslinger
November 7, 2006, 11:30 PM
Brilliant is right. Assuming the lower functions as well as a standard lower you lose nothing except maybe a little astethic value and possible a small bit of ergonomics but still have a very capable firearm with all the pros of a good AR. .22 uppers, 9mm uppers, accessories etc.

What a great FU to TPTB.

Chris

Coronach
November 7, 2006, 11:32 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH. HOOOOO! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.

ouch. Dang. I think I just dislocated a rib. Ouch ouch ouch.

Ahem. Taken from the Blackstar Arms site:Fundamentally, the Blackstar rifle is simply a redesigned AR-15 lower receiver in which the trigger has been moved up and back so that a traditional comb stock can be used. As is well known to the directors of the VPC and the Brady Center, a comb stock is far less dangerous to public order than a pistol grip. Not only will Blackstar shooters be able to legally enjoy all the functionality of an AR-15 rifle, but they will be able to sleep better at night knowing their use of a dolphin-friendly traditional comb stock must result in far less injury, death and carnage than would be caused by a pistol grip stock. And fewer dead kittens.OK. I almost want to buy one myself, just befreakincause.

Mike

Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
November 7, 2006, 11:32 PM
this version of the RX4 looks much better...

http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20RX4%20Storm/Beretta-RX4-Storm-07.jpg

KaceCoyote
November 8, 2006, 12:13 AM
The rifle looks awesome, until I see that buttstock.

Wes Janson
November 8, 2006, 12:17 AM
...pretty much all SBRs look better than their non-SBR counterparts :P

KaceCoyote
November 8, 2006, 12:19 AM
Maybe it'd look good with some ACE or magpull furniture but...blech

swingset
November 8, 2006, 12:58 AM
Unlike 99.99999% of online shooters, I am not the least bit concerned how an EBR looks, if it's comfortable, functional accurate and adaptable.

I'm such a silly sally. I'm never in the latest range fashions.

The R1 action of the RX4 is pretty stout, been around a while, I see no reason it won't be a good shooter, and it does look like it's got decent ergos. I'll wait to put my mitts on one before passing judgement or puking in my mouth at the sight of it. If it can be had in the states with evil features, is priced under or near an entry level AR, it might have a shot.

22/22mag
November 8, 2006, 02:24 AM
Handled one at the shot show in Las Vegas I liked it, not as ugly in person felt like a nice rifle in the short or long barrel model. I would buy one in 6.8 or 6.5 as I allready have 4 semi-auto .223s.

zamboxl
November 8, 2006, 06:51 AM
Well glad to see i am not the only one that likes it, o and by the way that Caly responce what ever rifle if fugly, would not touch it with a 10 foot pole, unless they change that lower.

Foxtrot427
November 8, 2006, 08:51 PM
http://www.beretta.com/dati/ContentManager/images/NEWS/Rx4storm.jpg

whats with the uhhm musket barrel? haha well Id like to see that with a 16in. Hopefully it would look better. The collaplable stock looks bad. Even when collapsed. Any idea about price? I dont think i can handle that 5 pos stock. The fixed shotgun stock thing seems to look best. I like the rest of the rifle, it just needs a better stocks.

gotime242
November 10, 2006, 10:57 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Rx4.gif

rugerdude
November 10, 2006, 05:36 PM
That last one looks a little better, but I can't complain, I own a hi-point.

MSGT9410
November 10, 2006, 07:08 PM
In response to the Blackstar Arms AR-15 ...

While the prompt on their site was frickin' hilarious, what did they do with the buffer tube?

smince
November 10, 2006, 07:10 PM
what did they do with the buffer tube?

I was going to ask the same thing. I knew something looked "off" when I first saw the thing.

50 Freak
November 10, 2006, 07:37 PM
The Blackstar Arms rifle uses a patented recoil system similar to the FAL.

Check out their website

www.blackstararms.com

crunker
November 10, 2006, 10:32 PM
It looks like an AR-15 crossed with a Benelli M4. I'd say it looks okay for home-defense, plinking, or maybe varmint/small game hunting.

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