When Does The Assault Weapon Ban Get Introduced?


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romma
November 8, 2006, 08:26 AM
Just curious if what kind of time line we are looking at. It is pretty much a forgone conclusion now that one will be introduced IMO... I don't believe I am fear-mongering because I think that the leftist elite have been waiting for this opportunity and are now drunk with power...

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hillbilly
November 8, 2006, 08:28 AM
Jan. 2007

hillbilly

buzz_knox
November 8, 2006, 08:34 AM
Jan. 2007

Yup, as an anti-terrorism bill.

Thin Black Line
November 8, 2006, 08:37 AM
Bush has yet to use a veto and said he would sign the AWB if it came across
his desk. LOL, he warned you in advance.....

Glockfan.45
November 8, 2006, 08:39 AM
The better question is when do we say enough is enough ? I fear that day never comes.

AZTOY
November 8, 2006, 08:52 AM
Bush has yet to use a veto and said he would sign the AWB if it came across
his desk. LOL, he warned you in advance.....


But Bush has nothing to lose now, so he could veto it just to piss off the Dems.:evil:

Joe Demko
November 8, 2006, 08:53 AM
This belongs in L&P, not here. You should ask a mod to move it. Better yet, ask one to delete it. There're already about 500 threads on this topic.

romma
November 8, 2006, 09:08 AM
This belongs in L&P, not here. You should ask a mod to move it. Better yet, ask one to delete it. There're already about 500 threads on this topic.
Okay, Mods please move to L&P please... I do not understand why people that want threads removed bother to post on them though... :confused: I think that after the election, asking about a ban is a fair question to ask. I have not seen 500 threads BTW...

kfranz
November 8, 2006, 09:15 AM
The better question is when do we say enough is enough ? I fear that day never comes.

That is an entirely individual decision.

dracphelan
November 8, 2006, 09:22 AM
But Bush has nothing to lose now, so he could veto it just to piss off the Dems.

But, he won't. The new bill won't be called an assault weapons ban. It will be sold in anti-terrorism terms and have a name like The Patriot Defense Act or something similar. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Manedwolf
November 8, 2006, 09:36 AM
I agree as to the terminology. It will be "only TERRISTS need assault weapons, 'cause they could shoot up a mall"...etc.

rangerruck
November 8, 2006, 09:45 AM
1st or 2nd week , first new session of congress, jan 07.

Keeper
November 8, 2006, 09:49 AM
I would think after the problems the last ban caused them and democrats in southern and western states wanting nothing to do with the issue they would have the sense to leave it alone. If they do anything with that issue in the next two years they give something for the republicans to rally on for the presidential election. Now if we get president Hilliary Clinton in two years all best are off but I would be surprised if they press their luck before then.

allmons
November 8, 2006, 09:50 AM
First legislative action will be the repeal of Bush tax cuts. Second action will be an assault on the Second Amendmant. Also look for very high new taxes on ammunition and firearms accessories across the board.

Please don't delude yourself - President Bush WILL sign any anti-gun legislation that crosses his desk. Even Ronald Reagan was for some gun control.

:fire:

mp510
November 8, 2006, 09:56 AM
I think it'll be introduced closer to election 08.

That way, it can be used as a political tool.

my guess: 06 MAR 08

Gary G23
November 8, 2006, 10:01 AM
"Please don't delude yourself - President Bush WILL sign any anti-gun legislation that crosses his desk. Even Ronald Reagan was for some gun control."

Yep. Reagan banned machine guns on May 19, 1986. I remember the NRA saying "don't worry, this won't lead to a ban on semi-autos".

beertracker
November 8, 2006, 10:08 AM
I suppose the NRA will have an exemption for 12 ga. Fudd guns. :rolleyes:

beertracker

MCgunner
November 8, 2006, 10:13 AM
I didn't see this in L&P this morning and started the same thread. :D

Yep, you asked for it, you got it! Better buy your ARs and AKs while you can. They'll wrap the gun control up in an anti-terror bill Bush wants and he'll have to sign it or be labeled soft on terrorism or something. Of course, being a lame duck, but if there's good legislation in there for anti-terrorism that he wants, well....

That's the way they do business in DC. It may be more than just "assault weapons", too. Terrorists can kill with handguns and they're easy to hide as you enter a school or what ever. You name the weapon, I can justify banning it with liberal "logic".

romma
November 8, 2006, 10:20 AM
I suppose the NRA will have an exemption for 12 ga. Fudd guns. They will claim that "Fudd Guns" are far too dangerous... I mean if someone comes along and sticks their fingers in the barrels... Kablooey!

Davo
November 8, 2006, 10:47 AM
You guys better get those high caps while you can too...Weve already lost that in california.

AndyC
November 8, 2006, 10:50 AM
Darn it - and here's me still waiting on my permanent-residence (still can't buy firearms yet) :(

X-Rap
November 8, 2006, 10:55 AM
It will take an action by the Islamo terrorists such as suicide bomber or large crowd attack such as school or mall ect. Believe me it will come now especially with the sleepers incountry already. Then the call to disarm will come from both within and out of our country. Probobly within Bush's term so as to finish off the conservatives once and for all. Bad times ahead me bad times ahead.

Jorg Nysgerrig
November 8, 2006, 10:59 AM
Do you people honestly think that gun control is the number one issue on the Democrats plate? Are you that egotistical or naive to think that as a gun owner, you are the number one target of all the issues in the USA right now?

I hate to break it to you, but the war in Iraq, immigration issues, and goverment scandals are much bigger issues. Don't get me wrong, I expect something to be introduced eventually. I just don't see gun control as the number one issue for anyone at this time, except for a certain subset of gun owners.

foghornl
November 8, 2006, 11:24 AM
Within 12 hours of "Speaker of The House Nancy Pelosi" being 'installed'.

Lonestar.45
November 8, 2006, 11:50 AM
Anyone up for a cosmoline, dessicant, and PVC pipe group buy?

phoglund
November 8, 2006, 11:52 AM
I'm with Jorg on this one. The previous AWB didn't do the Dems any favors and I doubt they will want to tackle it now with the Presidential election 2 years away. They will attempt to play to the issues that won them this election to build upon success. If they don't they will just lose everything they've gained and maybe more in the next election.

Thefabulousfink
November 8, 2006, 12:59 PM
If the Dems are smart they will wait until they win the '08 election before they even Talk about an AWB. If they aren't smart, they will either try and pass a harsh AWB like Brady II or a watered-down one that they hope they can get through the Senate. With the amount of conservative Dems that got elected, I doubt that it will be easy to push an AWB.

If they fail to pass one by the end of 2007 I don't think that they will try until after 2008. The last thing that they want is to go into such an important election with a divisive piece of legislation on the table.

Fingolfin
November 8, 2006, 01:18 PM
Put down the NRA kool-aid and slowly back away. Despite the fear mongering, democrats didn't win yesterday because they said they were gonna take away your guns. They did however, lose in the past because of it, and they remember. Whether or not a new push happens for federal anti-gun measures will remain to be seen. Many of the new democrats who won ran as pro-gun candidates, which is encouraging. Whether or not they will stay with that platform, who knows. It's possible but this whole "end is nigh" ranting is misplaced in my opinion.

buzz_knox
November 8, 2006, 01:20 PM
Whether or not they will stay with that platform, who knows. It's possible but this whole "end is nigh" ranting is misplaced in my opinion.


What's the platform of the House leadership, namely Pelosi, Conyers, Waxman? What's the platform of the likely Senate leadership of Schumer,

The "the Dems remember 1994 and don't want your guns" is as much koolaid as anything else, especially since they've repeatedly introduced gun control measures every year since 1994.

Bazooka Joe71
November 8, 2006, 01:25 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what all is going to be banned?

madmike
November 8, 2006, 01:30 PM
I don't see the Dems accomplishing dick.

Winning this election was the worst thing that could happen to them. Of course, being howler monkeys, they don't realize that, or aren't bright enough to think ahead to 08 and 2010.

This will be the lamest lame duck CONGRESS in history.

X-Rap
November 8, 2006, 01:41 PM
Again I don't believe it will come as an outright proposal but rather in the aftermath of some action by the enemy.Theres no doubt that both partys will politicise catastophy and one only needs to look at the leadership of the democrats to see the radical bend.

Limeyfellow
November 8, 2006, 01:43 PM
I would say one won't be introduced unless Rudy Guillani gets elected to the presidency in 2008. There seems to be alot of fear mongering and I believe the Democrats learnt their lessons in 1994 that if you want to win stuff let them keep their firearms. Its not like there do much good if they started rolling tanks up the street.

Thefabulousfink
November 8, 2006, 01:54 PM
The Dems only hope is to focus on Spending, Taxes, and the War in Iraq. That way they can keep the people happy and show them "hey look, we won't F&*$-up too badly if you vote for us in '08!"

The key failings of the Democratic Party on the national stage in the past 6 years has been their lack of leadership. When they start spewing their wack-o leftist ideas they lose elections (Gore); and when they try and keep them hidden and just play the field they lose elections (Kerry). Lets face it, Bush never was that strong of a candidate, but he still managed to sneak past Gore. In 2004 Bush practically handed the Dems a winning campaign, but they put up Kerry (who was mediocre at best) and he still couldn't beat Bush. It has taken 6 years of the Republican Party making a mess of things for the American people to trust the Dems back in office after 1994.

This isn't "Thank God The Dems Are Back In Power", it's "We'll Give You Another Chance, But We're Watching You."

HorseSoldier
November 8, 2006, 01:56 PM
What's the platform of the House leadership, namely Pelosi, Conyers, Waxman? What's the platform of the likely Senate leadership of Schumer,


In their heart of hearts, all of the above would like to ban guns nation-wide (world-wide even more fun) except for their personal body guards (being too precious themselves to sully their hands with something like a *sniff* gun) . . .

But the question I see is do they think they'll get a political boost out of the idea, or will it cost them? They're still stinging from being all but run out of power entirely for the last six years or so and I suspect they'll talk a big game but tread very lightly for fear that their party platform of "Bush-is-bad-mmmmkay?" and "we've got a super secret plan to fix Iraq, but you have to elect us first" won't float nearly as far as they hope. Particularly when their majorities are paper thin and a lot of those Congressmen are answering to red-state constituencies even if it says "(D)" after their name.

Personally, I'm not panicking until Hillary makes it back into the White House. At which point, all bets are off, and I may have to look into a more gun friendly nation like, say, Canada. :barf: (Hillary, not Canada) :)

USSR
November 8, 2006, 02:13 PM
Right after the next school shooting!

Don

beerslurpy
November 8, 2006, 02:30 PM
No, I dont beleive the democrats are that stupid. They had a much stronger hold on both houses and the presidency in 93, and there was enormous positive buzz about gun control in the media and in the popular consciousness. Brady and his wheelchair were like a rockstar in a stretched countach- they literally couldnt get enough good press.

Things are very different now. Dems have a weak hold on power. They have 10 years of defeat to remind them of what happens when you try to ban guns. The bradies and the million mommies are in dire financial straights from lack of support and the media is generally trending more pro gun. We had an enormous spate of school shootings a few months back and no a single media outlet blamed the guns. The NRA has been making big strides at the state and federal level. Evidence of its influence is obvious for anyone to see.

I predict no AWB is even attempted. If one is attempted, I predict the dems suffer for it.

Nitrogen
November 8, 2006, 02:35 PM
You all worry too much. I honestly don't think the Dems will do much of anything gun related at all.

Just in case, I just started buying Lowers, though.

Bartholomew Roberts
November 8, 2006, 02:39 PM
Duplicate and wrong forum.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=233002

Those of you counting on the Dems to remember 1994 should take a look at who they are appointing to those committees (House Judiciary, 1 GOA A-, the remainder are F and F-) and leadership. If the Dems aren't planning on pursuing gun control, it seems odd they would stack the committees that way.

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