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280PLUS
November 8, 2006, 01:46 PM
You be the judge... :D

http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html

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nearthebeach
November 8, 2006, 01:58 PM
That certainly brings back fond memories.
USNTC, Great Lakes.

lucky_fool
November 8, 2006, 02:16 PM
I was fortunate enough to see the Army drill team a couple of times while I was in service, and while Army pride requires me to say that they're still the best I'll grudgingly admit that those Navy boys are no slouches either.

pacificamark
November 8, 2006, 02:28 PM
Reminds me of Great Mistakes, Illinois also.

Harry Paget Flashman
November 8, 2006, 03:07 PM
Fond memories. The dead of Winter in Great Lakes. A cool breeze coming off Lake Michigan. Working up a sweat with the 96-Count manual. Then freezing solid.

Owen
November 8, 2006, 05:50 PM
terrible muzzle control :evil:

44AMP
November 8, 2006, 07:27 PM
1903 Springfield (Drill) rifle. Still on "active" duty.

I'm sure those guys could do it with M16s, but it just wouldn't look right.

KC&97TA
November 8, 2006, 07:33 PM
The Marines are better :neener:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1033390368216486622&q=usmc+silent+drill+team&hl=en

Brian Williams
November 8, 2006, 09:10 PM
If you ever get a chance to Visit Headquarters Marine Corps at 8th and I streets in DC, do so on a Fri from late spring thru early fall.

greg700
November 8, 2006, 09:21 PM
Bravo

chaim
November 8, 2006, 11:42 PM
Those guys are good, but the video is no where near as impressive as when I saw the Marine Corps Silent Drill Platoon at halftime at a football game (maybe 100 feet from me) when I was a student at Norwich.

TimboKhan
November 9, 2006, 02:37 AM
I was fortunate enough to see the Army drill team a couple of times while I was in service, and while Army pride requires me to say that they're still the best I'll grudgingly admit that those Navy boys are no slouches either.

In the interest of inter-service rivalry, I will say your crazy. You doggies can't hold a candle to a boot camp squad just learning to drill, let alone the Marine Corps silent drill team.:neener:

In all seriousness, I have never even seen the Army drill team, but I have seen the USMC silent drill team and it was spectacular. Still, the best (or at least the fanciest) rifle drill I ever saw actually was in boot camp. We had this kid we called "bones" that was the captain of a high school drill squad that took second in a national competion. He mentioned this to one of the other guys, and the third hat overheard him and started giving him a hard time about it. It was at night during our "free time", so Bones asked for, and recieved, permission to show the third hat what he could do. Needless to say, it was AWESOME! In fact, it was good enough that word got to the company commander, which resulted in the company commander coming in on a Sunday to see him do it again, which in turn resulted in us having to do pushup because nobody yelled "officer on deck" the millisecond he came into the squadbay. Anyway, if you have ever seen the movie "Major Payne" where at the end the kid blindfolds himself and commences to kicking butt, thats what it was like, but better (and no blindfold).

Cosmoline
November 9, 2006, 02:59 AM
They should jazz it up a little. Like have the officer there toss coins in the air and they can shoot them before they hit the ground.

280PLUS
November 9, 2006, 06:20 AM
Nice job by the Marines too. I notice they are much tighter on the slaps and clicks. They all sound like one. Damn fine timing. However I also noticed in the second to the last manuver the last Marine in line messed up and cleverly tried to cover it up. So sorry. :neener:

:D

Sisco
November 9, 2006, 06:30 AM
Fond memories. The dead of Winter in Great Lakes. A cool breeze coming off Lake Michigan. Working up a sweat with the 96-Count manual. Then freezing solid.

Been there, done that. Ever do "Push-ups with pieces"?

280PLUS
November 9, 2006, 07:03 AM
Went to GL for A school. Ever shovel snow on Christmas eve in dress blues and corfram shoes with a -50* wind chill? :eek:

foghornl
November 9, 2006, 07:41 AM
Saw the US Marines "Silent Drill Team" at the Cleveland Browns game Oct 29.

There is just something about those guys in their Full Dress Uniforms, with those US Rifles Cal 30 M1 that makes me very glad to know that they are the ones guarding our lives & liberty around the world.

Carry On, Marines

Oh yeah...IDIOT in the row behind me had the gall to boo those Marines. I swiftly imformed said lout that my nephew is a US Marine, serving in Iraq, protecting his freedom to boo. He was certainly free to express his opinion, but please wait until the show is over, and then go discuss that opinion directly with the Gunnery Sgt. in charge of the group. End of booing.

Not sure of the exact rank, but the Sgt. had at least 2 "rockers" on his stripes.

MarkDido
November 9, 2006, 08:23 AM
Fond memories. The dead of Winter in Great Lakes. A cool breeze coming off Lake Michigan. Working up a sweat with the 96-Count manual. Then freezing solid.

Roger that! Great Mistakes in October, November and December in 1973 was such a pleasant place to be! First and only 12 hour liberty in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

This was before the days of (I believe) washers and dryers in the barracks. Clothing was washed in the head on the large terra-cotta sinks with a scrub brush. The lounge between the companies was the smoking area and you didn't even need to buy cigarettes, just step inside and breathe!

Leatherneck
November 9, 2006, 08:24 AM
Happy Birthday, Marines! "231 years of tradition, unhampered by progress."
Semper Fi
TC

1911 guy
November 9, 2006, 08:41 AM
I had the good fortune to enlist in October, just in time to show up in November, freeze my tuckus off for two months, go to A School and freeze for a few more. Left for the fleet and never looked back. The Persian Gulf was much more comfortable.

On one of my deployments, I had the pleasure of seeing the MARDET in Silent Drill. Very impressive.

280PLUS
November 9, 2006, 12:49 PM
A friend's daughter just graduated GL RTC. When she first told me she was headed there for mid November and asked for any advice I told her, "GO NOW!!. Don't wait for it to get COLD up there." She listened!

The whole time she was there she had a big sweat going cause she couldn't do 1 pushup and was afraid of being held back. So when I asked her mother how she finally did she tells me she ended up doing SIXTY FIVE pushups.

:D

Harry Paget Flashman
November 9, 2006, 02:32 PM
Sisco. "Push-ups with pieces?" No. But with arms extended into 24" snow going "all the way down" doing a push up was pretty easy.

MarkDido. ('65) Lessons learned from washing your cloths in a terracotta sink: don't use too much soap and powdered bleach on your skivvies. But if you do, rinse thoroughly, rinse thoroughly, rinse thoroughly. If you don't the rash on your groin will make marching miserable, even in the winter. Also remember that all wet clothing had to be hung outside with tied clothes-stops until it froze solid before it could be taken in to the drying room to thaw and dry.

Sisco
November 9, 2006, 03:28 PM
"Pushups with Pieces" was when you got down on the asphalt with your hands wrapped around the gunstock, (knuckles against the ground and under the stock) and did a few pushups. Whatever it was you did to deserve that you certainly did not do again!

Byron Quick
November 9, 2006, 03:48 PM
The Navy men did an outstanding job but they need help with the uniforms. Those Marines are smart.

One of the cops I work with has a young daughter who is about to go the Great Lakes, if she's not already there.

I wish her well.

SSN Vet
November 9, 2006, 04:37 PM
In 1987, Navy D.I.s started to go to the USMC D.I. school.

Gunners Mate Chief G____ graduated from the first class to have Navy CPO's in it and was my company chief at NOCS, Newport, RI. He always joked that the Marine Gunnys took the Navy Chiefs on as their "Pets" and saved the especially "fun" jobs for them.

As 16 week wonders, our time to drill was limited....but Chief G_____ was great. He kicked our butts, and Echo company went deeper into the Drill Manual than any of the others. I personally loved to drill and couldn't get enough of it. MAJOR FUN!!

Looking back now some 20 years later, one of the greatest compliments I've ever received in life was when Chief G_____ pulled me out front of the company to demo. the correct way to do a difficult drill step and called me his "Marine". (O.K. sappy and lame....but it meant a lot to me).

I don't know if it was just an experiment or a service wide change. But maybe that Navy drill team is benefiting from their "shipmates" in the Corps.

Here's to one of the first men to don the Smoky Bear with a Chiefs Anchor tacked on in front where the EGA would normally go....(which required a specific change to the Navy Uniform Manual).

TimboKhan
November 9, 2006, 07:40 PM
Oh yeah...IDIOT in the row behind me had the gall to boo those Marines. I swiftly imformed said lout that my nephew is a US Marine, serving in Iraq, protecting his freedom to boo.

Call it a weakness, but that idiot would have likely been socked right in the chiclets if I were there. I don't put up with that crap when any service is on the field, but I am obviously particularly sensitive when it's marines.

XavierBreath
November 9, 2006, 09:13 PM
The Navy men did an outstanding job but they need help with the uniforms. Byron, there are many Navy men who would disagree with that opinion. The US Navy enlisted dress uniform looks odd to uniformed eyes, but it is seeped in history and tradition. The US Navy Crackerjack is really not much different than sailor uniforms from all over the world. The thirteen button bellbottom trousers and sailor tunic was adopted close to two centuries ago.

I have worn Johnny Cash's in port, and the Ice Cream suit. I have also manned the rail and crossed the brow in Crackerjacks. I can tell you unequivocally that the one uniform that is unmistakable all over the world is that of a sailor. As far as dress uniforms go, Air Farce men may be mistaken for policemen, Soldiers may be mistaken for Marines, and Marines may be mistaken for bellhops, but there is no doubt who that man in the Crackerjack is when he goes on liberty in some foreign port.

The Real Wyatt
November 9, 2006, 09:24 PM
Both teams did an outstanding job. Personal bias says the Marines were somewhat better, a more cohesive unit acting in concert as one. But ... I detected just a little bit of slop in the Marines performance as well. 50 years ago, I doubt that half of those guys would have made the team. Maybe I'm bitter 'cause 50 years ago I failed to make the team. Nah, ain't got nothing to do with it.

God bless the armed services ... all of 'em. One of the hardest lessons to learn is that "freedom isn't free". Once learned, it must never be forgotten.

molonlabe
November 9, 2006, 10:02 PM
Bravo Xaiver

SSN Vet
November 10, 2006, 09:28 AM
Those guys are waring Service Dress Whites......

Cracker Jacks are Service Dress Blues.....which look 10X better.

mpmarty
November 10, 2006, 11:53 AM
As was said earlier and I expand on the theme, y'all need to be at eighth and I (eye) for retreat. Next spring my wife and I will ride our motorcycle 3200 miles round trip to see it again.

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